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"Google" scanner ?

chrfranke opened this issue · comments

First of all: Thanks for maintaining this list!

In the smartmontools.org project, we have long term trouble with occasional false positive reports for our CI and release builds for Windows. All are done reproducible under Linux with MinGW-w64 + NSIS cross-toolchains in a docker container (see https://builds.smartmontools.org/).

Recently some "Google" scanner appeared in the list of FPs at VirusTotal. Does anybody know where FPs could be reported for this scanner?

what exactly is the name of the security application in Virus Total?

It is actually named "Google" and the reported malware is named "Detected".

See the results of our most recent CI builds:
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/ffd07532d1c7af7da0cf7633856a3ff60f54a6ebc995dbfc079d55e3e3b81e77
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/1a1b6894442930d68b1e489c0392c9a1d9b2398b93f9b7dc8061900a40cf5385
(BTW: The difference of 11 vs 6 detections does not make any sense as only static string data in the drivedb.h file have been changed).

Even if you have nothing wrong with the package, the mere fact that it's unsigned will generate false positives each time you submit the file to be analyzed. and that will happen in each change (even minor) you make

So take into consideration that it will take you weeks, even months removing all of these, And in the next release you'll need to do that all over again.

regarding Google you can ask the virus total team, I don't know exactly what they mean there

Yes, I know. Even changing EXE-header timestamps by re-running strip may change the result in both directions. Another experience is that FPs spread faster to other scanner than FPs removed after complaints.

OK, I will ask VT and report any results here.

I would suggest to keep this issue open until then. Perhaps someone else could provide useful info.

Another thing that may reduce the amount of false positives you encounter is packaging in 64 bit instead of 32 bit
As for somebody else coming along I wouldn't wait for it, but if you do find what Google is in Virus Total do let me know so I can add it to the list

Makes sense. FPs seem to be more likely from 32-bit programs in general. The current installer is itself 32-bit but contains executables for both. Unfortunately 64-bit support for the NSIS installer is still not part of the official downloads, but interestingly available in the Debian package.

I sent a request about "Google" scanner via https://www.virustotal.com/gui/contact-us two days ago. No reply so far.

That's what I'm saying, It could literally take months

Closing due to inactivity

Correct - no reply from VirusTotal since August 2.