Compatibility issues with several of Smoothbrain's very popular mods[BUG]
psyferre opened this issue · comments
- OS: Linux Server
- Valheim Game Version: 0.212.9
- V+ Mod Version: 9.9.11
Describe the bug
Smoothbrain/blaxxun-boop has a large number of very popular mods. Of them, I know that Groups and Jewelcrafting are both broken due to incompatibilities with V+. It appears he's been reaching out for a while to V+ devs for help, but hasn't made any progress.
blaxxun-boop/Groups#13
blaxxun-boop/Jewelcrafting#27
To Reproduce
Steps for the devs to reproduce the behavior:
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Install Groups mod: https://valheim.thunderstore.io/package/Smoothbrain/Groups/
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Chat commands for the mod no longer work.
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Install Jewlecrafting: https://valheim.thunderstore.io/package/Smoothbrain/Jewelcrafting/
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Multiple issues regarding chests, visual, etc. Described here: blaxxun-boop/Jewelcrafting#27
Dual Wield (Smoothbrain mod) is also not working currently:
Valheim+ Version : 9 . 9 . 11
Dual Wield Version : 1 . 0 . 6
Looks like PassivePowers and Blacksmithing have followed suit.
V+ devs, what needs to happen to build compatibility between V+ and all these other mod makers? I'd be happy to help in some way if I can get a sense of where the issues are. I'm trying to find a way around this as my current host only supports a subset of mods, so I have a very limited window of mods to choose from to accomplish certain tasks.
So I guess 1st things 1st, we would need to know what issues those mods run into...the who, what, when and where type of thing. Not getting a lot of info from smoothbrain other than "V+ isn't maintained anymore" and "hiding stacktraces" doesn't help. I need error messages from their end to see what module they are trying to access or if they're trying to piggyback on modules and causing a crash kinda like Better Archery if you have the quiver turned on type of thing.
I'd rather take 33% overhead than add 3-4 more mods that take up memory anyday :)
Good deal - thanks for your response. I'm not a unity dev, but it's something I've been wanting to add to my bag of tricks - I'd be happy to submit pull requests if there are issues I can help with. I'll point smoothbrain at this ticket and perhaps we and some other users of smoothbrain mods can get some specific bug reports going.
Smoothbrain responded that they have no intention of making their mods compatible with V+ due to an alleged lack of cooperation in the past. Closing this ticket as it appears to be a pointless endeavor. @SSimp258, thanks for your response and willingness to help.
I've been polling others on V+ discord to see if anyone from smoothbrain reached out and right now, the answer is no. No one has talked to any Dev or Chat Mod in the discord. Now, there have been a couple Devs that have left so it's still possible someone did. But i also looked back at the "issues" both opened and closed and unless blaxxun-boop used a different name, there are 0 issues opened or closed by them. It's starting to look like this person is lying to their users and giving V+ a bad name for his prosperity's sake.
I'll keep checking with others in the meantime to see what the facts are.
It's starting to look that way to me as well, TBH. I looked for their tickets as well and couldn't find any. /shrug
Hello there, still wanting to work on fixing the compatibility issues we have with other mods.
I haven't had time to work on any of this since I got in touch with blaxxun.
One thing for sure, parts of our code is poorly designed and is even preventing any change outside of ours. To be honest, I can't even remeber when and who made this but it might have come from the beginning of the project.
This isn't right and I'll try my best to rework things slowly to make things easier to maintain and prevent compatibility issues as much as possible.
I hope I have time to work on this in the coming weeks.
Glad to see some devs here want to fix the issues, but @blaxxon-bloop seems to be vindictively trying to create incompatibility with V+ now. Whoever on the V+ team that pissed blaxxon off needs to apologize or something, cuz there is no reason to have so much hostility between modders... The only people who lose here... are the valheim community.
Anyone find anything on this yet? I would love to be able to use groups with the mmo mod... V+ is an essential, but group xp would be great...
Unfortunately it looks like the V+ team doesn't see any issues with V+, even though it doesnt even work atm, and blaxxon has made it so that her mods are incompatible with V+ due to do the V+ teams incompetency and disregard to other modders and the community as a whole. Pretty much a dead mod...
Unfortunately it looks like the V+ team doesn't see any issues with V+, even though it doesnt even work atm, and blaxxon has made it so that her mods are incompatible with V+ due to do the V+ teams incompetency and disregard to other modders and the community as a whole. Pretty much a dead mod...
@bigreefer Please don't come in here and bash the dev team like you're doing. It's highly unprofessional and can be reported to the GIT admins as verbal abuse.
Wow... ok, so you could just say there's opposing viewpoints, instead of bashing dude, kind of uncalled for. I've used both modders' mods forever, kinda makes me sad I can't still do so.
Lol simp, go ahead... I didn't say anything that wasn't true. Abuse XD that's hilarious dude! V+ team has stated in their discord that there's nothing wrong with their mod, which there objectively is. Blaxxon tried to work with the v+ team and they never tried to work with her. The team is also known for trying to monopolize the valheim modding community... At first I wanted to think the V+ team wasn't in the wrong, but as of late it's clear they are.
Lol simp, go ahead... I didn't say anything that wasn't true. Abuse XD that's hilarious dude! V+ team has stated in their discord that there's nothing wrong with their mod, which there objectively is. Blaxxon tried to work with the v+ team and they never tried to work with her. The team is also known for trying to monopolize the valheim modding community... At first I wanted to think the V+ team wasn't in the wrong, but as of late it's clear they are.
She never reached out or if she did it was well over a year ago. If she did, that person has left the team and failed to mention it to any of the full-time dev team members. I double checked all the GIT issues and she's never opened a ticket. I double checked the closed tickets as well...she's NEVER opened a ticket. I've been a chat mod in the discord for over a year and not once has she popped in the discord and mentioned anything. We've had 1 of 2 devs say they'd like to rewrite some of V+ code to alleviate any compatibility issues but that takes time for a mod like this and add real life events going on left and right. COVID comes to my mind right off the bat. I was laid off from my job so i went back to school for software development and I also applied to med school and got accepted. That's why I really haven't done much as far as coding goes...I'm also a Java person and not C# so I would have to learn this code before i could do anything. But the way everyone behaves in the discord and on GIT makes me not want to do any more than I already do. I have my hands full with school so I can't babysit the Karens and Kevins of the internet and make sure they behave.
So if you wanna bash anyone, bash her on her GIT for hardcoding the incompatibility and not wanting to work with us to fix what's wrong so everyone can win. In her GIT she's never said exactly what's broken and where so we don't know where to start other than rewriting the entire code.
If you like, I can still report you to the admins and we can see what happens. Verbal abuse is still abuse and it's in the Code of Conduct of GIT to be respectful. Since you have an account, you accepted those terms.
Screenshot of the Code of Conduct:
Ok, so with everything you've just said, you've just proved everything that I said. If you think that 'incompetency(regarding the code) and disregard to other modders' is ABUSE, then I don't know what to say to you Ssimp. No point in having any further discussion with you.
I wanted to write something to comment on @bigreefer bad behaviour, then I clicked his name and see he uses Java, so I think life has already been harsh enough with them.
@mbagattini Lol you assume I can only use java, living off of assumptions is what fools do. Bad behavior(learn how to spell) and referring to a single person as them is incorrect English, you clearly can't code well if you can't even write correctly. The way you run to defend a faulty dying mod makes you sound like a cucked simp, no not you Ssimp XD. You are the most pathetic type of people; can't take any criticism, lie, and immediately resort to reporting. I've seen your kind before, in elementary school XD. Grow a pair child. Report me all you like, with what little amount of power you hold in life XD, I'll just make a new account.
living off of assumptions is what fools do.
Maybe you should make a couple of google searches about both the spelling of behaviour and the use of the third-person plural when gender is unknown.
Oh, and speaking of little amount of power, your little thumb down reactions feel a bit lonely up there.
Let's just all stop with personal attacks and get back on topic.
And look who was right... DEAD MOD @mbagattini @SSimp258
It's doing quite alright I would say, works fine on the new version. Just not the official v+ version.