Umbrel doesn't show On Chain balance after restore

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Umbrel doesn't show On Chain balance after restore

souspeed opened this issue 3 years ago · comments

After standard restore procedure on Umbrel, only the lightning balances from the closed channels appear in Umbrel.

Umbrel does show the starting onchain balance 'deposit', however this whole balance is listed as 'lightning wallet - channel open', even when only part of this balance is used the open the channel. The remaining part is still in the onchain wallet.
After restore and closing the channels, only the closed channel amount shows up in Umbrel 'deposit'. However; the remaining onchain balance remains in limbo.

I did perform the UTXO rescan procedure, but onchain balance didn't show.

Might be I did not wait long enough? 20+ hours after electrum finished indexing.
Still I think this should be analysed/improved, as more and more 'beginners' will run into this issue.

Blue wallet did show the full balance within minutes.
Maybe worth to check their process and mimic this logic on Umbrel for restore/re-scan purposes.

Standard restore procedure:
This method is the normal way, as described and recommended by Umbrel team.
It is suppose that you already have the 24 words seed and the channel.backup file obtained previously. If you didn’t make that backup, but you still have access to your old node drive, you can find it in /home/umbrel/umbrel/lnd/data/chain/bitcoin/mainnet/channel.backup or you can request a copy from Umbrel devs.
Install a new instance of Umbrel. Start the dashboard page and you will be prompted to use previously backup 24 words seed.
Once you’ve restored from the 24 words, it might take a few minutes to a few hours for it to scan all of your previous Bitcoin (on-chain) transactions and balances. Meanwhile, here’s how you can restore the funds in your Lightning channels.
STEP 1: COPY OVER THE CHANNEL BACKUP FILE FROM YOUR COMPUTER TO YOUR UMBREL.
Enter using SSH 28 and run this:
scp <path/to/your/channel/backup/file> umbrel@umbrel.local:/home/umbrel/umbrel/lnd/channel.backup
Replace <path/to/your/channel/backup/file> with the exact path to channel backup file on your computer
The password is moneyprintergobrrr, except on version 0.3.3 or later where the password is your personal user password instead.
STEP 2: RECOVER FUNDS
cd ~/umbrel && ./bin/lncli restorechanbackup --multi_file /data/.lnd/channel.backup
After you run this, wait for 1 minute. You should now be able to see your channels being closed on http://umbrel.local/lightning 7.
You should wait patiently until the funds are coming back to your onchain wallet. It will take at least 40 blocks. You can see/check the details of closing channels in the troubleshooting guide.

Extra Step to show full balance after channel closes.
Enter seed into Blue Wallet mobile wallet.

Rescan wallet UTXOs procedure
I sent funds to my node wallet and wasn’t 100% synced, now I can’t see them.
Step 1 – In a terminal window, execute this to SSH:
ssh -t umbrel@umbrel.local
Password: < your own dashboard password > (remember that you will not see what you type, then press ENTER)
Step 2 – execute the following command to rescan wallet’s UTXOs:
sed -i "s/[Application Options]/[Application Options]\nreset-wallet-transactions=true/g;" ~/umbrel/lnd/lnd.conf && sudo reboot
Step 3 – Wait some time so LND can rescan all wallet’s UTXOs. If it solve the issue, run this to stop it from rescanning on a future restart:
sed -i "s/reset-wallet-transactions=true//g;" ~/umbrel/lnd/lnd.conf && sudo reboot
Wait, it can take quite a while.

Guides
https://community.getumbrel.com/t/how-to-restore-your-node-wallet/3602
https://bitcoin.cipix.eu/en/umbrel-troubleshooting/#umbrel-rescan-utxo

Raul · Answer 1 · Wed Oct 27 2021 20:14:55 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I have had the same problem when recovering from the seed and have tried several times.

Balance is either zero or inconsistent with the real UTXO (as I could check in Blue Wallet using the same 24 words seed).

NOTE: maybe not relevant, but I must say that every time I recovered from seed I copied an already downloaded blockchain but took the right steps to assure propoer permissions and oenwer of the files. The blockchain is synchronized 100% in all occasions. (scp, check permissions and owner, etc) and once copied you startup umbrel and shows 100% sinchronized.

I also waited for electrum server (electrs) to catch up and in the end the umbrel was fully sync’ed and running, but the balance is wrong

The only unexpected thing I can find is in electrs logs: This keeps showing in the logs although electrs rescan is completed

[2021-10-26T08:34:19.093Z WARN electrs::p2p] unexpected message: Unknown { command: CommandString("addr"), payload: [1, 48, 187, 119, 97, 9, 4, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 255, 255, 165, 22, 227, 159, 71, 157] }

It is worth saying that:

the addresses used by the recovered umbrel instance are correct and they are the same as in BW (Blue Wallet recovering with "HD Aezeed” wallet).
Furthermore the addresses given by umbrel (deposit tab) are provided in the same order as they are shown in BW.
It seems like umbrel is not getting the right UTXOs (that is why I guess that there is something worng with electrs).
I deleted electrs contect (except for electrs.toml) and reindexed again with the same results.
New transaction (UTXOs) are correctly shown both in BW and Umbrel, but not the older transactions (UTXOs) whcih seems inconsistent in umbrel case.

Note: The only way to withdraw the total balance was with BW as umbrel gives a "not enough balance notice" due to worng balance.

synicasm · Answer 2 · Wed Oct 27 2021 22:59:20 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Just adding some notes to this issue, I experienced. I was having problems with my Umbrel PI install, so I wiped everything and started with a completely fresh install of Umbrel including a full redownload of the blockchain. I did not have any open lightning channels.

I used the recover seed to restore Umbrel when prompted and waited till the blockchain was 100% synced and 24 hours past 100% sync and Umbrel never showed my recovered wallet balance.
Using the seed phrase to recover the wallet in the mobile BlueWallet app my balance showed immediately.
Once I transferred the sats from my recovered BlueWallet to the recovered Umbrel wallet the stats mins the transaction fee appeared in my Umbrel wallet and were removed from my blue wallet. Keep in mind this is the same wallet with the same seed phrase.
Now my Umbrel Wallet has a balance and my mobile Blue Walley has no balance.
Then I deleted my mobile BW and recovered again with the same seed phrase, now my balance in my mobile BW matches the balance in the Umbrel wallet.

Just adding there are a few people on the community site with this or similar issues.
https://community.getumbrel.com/t/recovery-from-seed-no-balance/2789
https://community.getumbrel.com/t/umbrel-bitcoin-wallet-empty-after-restore/4267/18

Diego Figueroa · Answer 3 · Thu Oct 28 2021 03:10:57 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I have the same issue. Just wanted to add that because initially I was only testing Umbrel, I was syncing to a 1 TB HDD that I later found was failing. That means I went trough a lot of reflashes and builds from scratch since Umbrel v0.3.13. Everytime I entered my seed phrase to a brand new instance of Umbrel, my balance would appear within ~2 hours. Then I started having issues since v0.4.3 or v0.4.4.

I could get my balance to show again after waiting for a full blockchain and electrum sync and doing a rescan following this.

However, my electrs logs are flooding with the same warnings described by @RaulRider (unexpected message: Unknown). I don't know if this is a problem with electrs, lnd or umbrel, but I think it should be investigated since it's now a common issue many people are facing.

Diego Figueroa · Answer 4 · Thu Oct 28 2021 03:29:30 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I don't know if this is a problem with electrs, lnd or umbrel, but I think it should be investigated since it's now a common issue many people are facing.

Now that I come across issue getumbrel/umbrel#1041 I wanted to add that maybe the problem is with neutrino as it handles your balance before the blockchain is even synced.

Leon Ward · Answer 5 · Thu Oct 28 2021 23:07:42 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

For what it's worth, I'm experiencing what looks like the same thing. A few notes in case it helps anyone:

I set up new instance
I restored wallet via seed
I shut the system down and copied the blocks, chainstate, and index directories from another drive
Booted back up
Also noticed the many warnings in electrs as others have stated while running $ docker logs -f electrs

Michael Fulton · Answer 6 · Fri Oct 29 2021 00:40:52 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Same issue. As others have done, I restored with mnemonic from existing Umbrel install, then disconnected SSD and replaced the block and chainstate dirs with a fully synced node. The balance shows as 0, but there should be a small balance. Restoring with BlueWallet does show the balance. Now it appears electrs is catching up. I also have the unknown command "addr" warnings. Will update this message after electrs finishes indexing.

[2021-10-28T16:36:09.436Z INFO  electrs::index] indexing 2000 blocks: [318941..320940]
[2021-10-28T16:36:54.361Z WARN  electrs::p2p] unexpected message: Unknown { command: CommandString("addr"), payload: [1, 201, 207, 122, 97, 77, 4, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 255, 255, 176, 9, 90, 182, 32, 141] }
[2021-10-28T16:37:31.709Z INFO  electrs::chain] chain updated: tip=000000000000000014095b9a2d326e985b37d949ff1575beb4aa63e3bac24fc8, height=320940
[2021-10-28T16:37:31.727Z INFO  electrs::index] indexing 2000 blocks: [320941..322940]

Re: neutrino-switcher, I get the following debug output:

docker logs -f neutrino-switcher
Checking if synced...
If set to neutrino then lets check bitcoind
Error: from bitcoind
{
  "code": -28,
  "message": "Loading block index…"
}

The bitcoind is showing as fully synced in Umbrel.

Raul · Answer 7 · Fri Oct 29 2021 00:45:24 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

In my case I copied the blockchain too (copied blocks, chainstate and index directories using scp to preserve owner and presmission. It worked fine).
But balance was still 0 even when synchronization was completed.
Transactions done after spinning up the new restored umbrel node are correctly shown in the dashboard but this is not the case with the transaction history.
My impression is that the issue may be related to the neutrino backend. It is a speculation, but it may be due to the fact that we used a copied blockchain and umbrel does not get the IBD (Initial Blockchain Download) as completed hence relaying on neutrino rather than bitcoind or electrs.

When setup a new umbrel node, lnd.conf has these lines

# Default to neutrino as the node is automatically switched to bitcoind once IBD is complete
bitcoin.node=neutrino

Once IBD is completed, umbrel changes that line to
bitcoin.node=bitcoind
I will check if that is the case.

Raul · Answer 8 · Fri Oct 29 2021 01:04:23 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I wonder if running the script sudo ./scripts/configure will solve the issue.
Configure script checks if blockchain is synced and then changes lnd.conf accordingly (neutrino to bitcoind)

# If node is already synced, do not reset to neutrino
if [[ -f "${STATUS_DIR}/node-status-bitcoind-ready" ]]; then
  sed -i "s/bitcoin.node=.*/bitcoin.node=bitcoind/g;" "$LND_CONF_FILE"
fi

Also, STATUS_DIR = "${UMBREL_ROOT}/statuses" so I will check if the file node-status-bitcoind-ready is there.
If it is not, then umbrel is unaware of the blockchain fully synced and still uses neutrino.

Leon Ward · Answer 9 · Fri Oct 29 2021 04:44:49 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Taking a quick look at the comments above..
Note that I decided to perform a reindex of the blockchain (bitcoin.conf: reindex=1)... because, well... it was a good idea at the time. So that's going to take me a long while.

Looking at the values of the content mentioned above:

lnd.conf, bitcoin,node=bitcoind & bitcoin.defaultchainconf=2
docker logs -f neutrino-switcher...

Checking if synced...
If set to neutrino then lets check bitcoind
Error: from bitcoind
{
  "code": -28,
  "message": "Loading block index…"
}
Checking if synced...
If set to neutrino then lets check bitcoind
false
Not pruned
false
Sync seems complete!  Will switch on next check.
Checking if synced...
If set to neutrino then lets check bitcoind
false
Not pruned
false
false
Bitcoind has been switched across to neutrino
Restarting LND
lnd
lnd
Checking if synced...
LND is already switched to bitcoind!
Checking not necessary. Exiting.

I guess I'll just let it perform the reindex for a couple of days...

Michael Fulton · Answer 10 · Fri Oct 29 2021 22:23:43 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I still have 0 balance after my electrs finally finished indexing blocks and is now caught up. Here's what I tried after the indexing was complete:

./statuses/node-status-bitcoind-ready now exists. It didn't yesterday before electrs synced.
Renamed ./lnd/lnd.conf, ran ./scripts/configure to create it new.
Restarted Umbrel

docker logs -f neutrino-switcher:

Checking if synced...
LND is already switched to bitcoind!
Checking not necessary. Exiting.

lnd/lnd.conf:

[Bitcoin]
bitcoin.active=1
bitcoin.mainnet=1
# Default to neutrino as the node is
# automatically switched to bitcoind once
# IBD is complete
bitcoin.node=bitcoind
bitcoin.defaultchanconfs=2

# [neutrino]
# Testnet neutrino peers that are automatically
# uncommented if Umbrel is configured for testnet
# neutrino.addpeer=testnet1-btcd.zaphq.io
# neutrino.addpeer=testnet2-btcd.zaphq.io

Sadly still showing 0 balance, while BlueWallet and my original Umbrel node (still running) is showing the correct value.

Debug log: https://pastebin.com/Y7ysW4TW

Leon Ward · Answer 11 · Wed Nov 17 2021 18:38:35 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Still no joy. An update:

I just performed a clean re-install using the exact recommend hardware (ssd, Pi psu etc) that is defined.
This time I did not copy the blockchain from another system to accelerate the blockchain sync. I waited about a week for it to complete a full sync of bitcoin & electrs, and then waited another 24 hours before checking.
The install was made on 0.4.7, and has been upgraded to 0.4.8.
I was confident my mnemonic was correct, since the existing funds appear in blue wallet, but to add confidence I sent it a few sats. Those new sats appeared in both the BlueWallet AND on the umbrel. Both wallets now show different balances, with umbrel only showing the new funds.

🤷

mohammad baniasad · Answer 12 · Thu Nov 18 2021 01:31:29 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Still no joy. An update:

I just performed a clean re-install using the exact recommend hardware (ssd, Pi psu etc) that is defined.

This time I did not copy the blockchain from another system to accelerate the blockchain sync. I waited about a week for it to complete a full sync of bitcoin & electrs, and then waited another 24 hours before checking.

The install was made on 0.4.7, and has been upgraded to 0.4.8.

I was confident my mnemonic was correct, since the existing funds appear in blue wallet, but to add confidence I sent it a few sats. Those new sats appeared in both the BlueWallet AND on the umbrel. Both wallets now show different balances, with umbrel only showing the new funds.

🤷

i have exactly reproduced this. except for sending the new sats part.

Diego Figueroa · Answer 13 · Thu Nov 18 2021 01:33:13 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I hope this gets fixed soon.

synicasm · Answer 14 · Thu Nov 18 2021 09:56:33 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Have you tried this here https://bitcoin.cipix.eu/en/umbrel-troubleshooting/#umbrel-rescan-utxo

Doesn't fix the initial issue but might correct your balances.

Oliver Gugger · Answer 15 · Thu Nov 18 2021 16:10:39 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I assume the on-chain balance is taken from lnd? Or what component has the on-chain wallet? If it's lnd, can anyone post their full lnd.log (from when the actual restore is performed)?

Leon Ward · Answer 16 · Thu Nov 18 2021 20:27:39 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Here is the full lnd.log
lnd.log

Oliver Gugger · Answer 17 · Thu Nov 18 2021 20:41:43 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Thanks for the log. That was actually super helpful. Here's what I think is happening:

The wallet was created (and with it recovery mode initiated) on 2021-11-11 18:55.
At that moment, lnd is still in Neutrino mode and is trying to sync the chain backend.
The sync is not happening for some reason (I assume it is related to what was fixed in lightningnetwork/lnd#5962 which will be available in v0.14.0-beta that was just released). I also see errors related to Neutrino in the log (Banning peer ... reason=peer was unable to serve compact filters).
The node was shut down on 2021-11-16 12:05, with it interrupting the wallet rescan (that process is currently NOT persisted, so if you shut down the node before it completes, it will not continue).
The node was started again with bitcoind mode enabled on 2021-11-16 18:07.
Because the rescan progress was aborted previously, only the last few blocks are re-scanned with the new bitcoind chain backend.

I think there are two ways to fix this:

(temporary for users directly affected): Make sure the node is running on the bitcoind backend, then reset the wallet (by adding reset-wallet-transactions=true to the config).
(more permanent): Upgrade to lnd v0.14.0-beta.

Leon Ward · Answer 18 · Thu Nov 18 2021 23:29:18 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Thanks for the advice, I followed your first point since I didn't want to mess around with the container versions that are included on Umbrel. However after the reset-wallet-transactions=true flag was used, the balance shows up with the same incorrect value.

In the logs I can see that the rescan started at block height 706199 (as a side note, I don't know why that block was selected). All transactions to this wallet have taken place in blocks after that block. Here is an updated lnd.log in case it helps anyone.

lnd.log

Oliver Gugger · Answer 19 · Fri Nov 19 2021 00:17:20 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Ah, I see. The reset-wallet-transactions flag doesn't actually enforce the recovery mode (where the wallet tries to detect used addresses) but instead only re-scans for outputs of already known addresses (of which there are none because the initial recovery was interrupted).

So I don't know if the following is possible in an Umbrel environment (or whether the middleware scripts will interfere), but this is what you can try:

Stop lnd (only the lnd container or process, not the whole node)
Remove or rename the wallet.db and macaroons.db files in the .../chain/bitcoin/mainnet/ directory (not sure where exactly Umbrel stores the lnd data directory). DON'T TOUCH ANY OTHER FILES, especially not the channels.db file.
Restart lnd
From the logs, make sure the bitcoind backend is used (you should see [INF] CHRE: Primary chain is set to: bitcoin in the logs).
Use lncli create to restore with the seed.

That should find all addresses and restore your on-chain funds.

Lounès Ksouri · Answer 20 · Fri Nov 19 2021 00:55:32 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I'm afraid that this could break Umbrel login flow (wallet and account). Can you double check @lukechilds?

Oliver Gugger · Answer 21 · Fri Nov 19 2021 00:59:58 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Or is there a way to restore lnd only without also nuking the bitcoind sync state (basically trying to avoid the Neutrino part completely if the chain backend is fully synced)?

Diego Figueroa · Answer 22 · Fri Nov 19 2021 02:35:17 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I wonder, did you guys followed the steps on how to get your balance back pointed by an earlier comment? https://bitcoin.cipix.eu/en/umbrel-troubleshooting/#umbrel-rescan-utxo

Step 1 - Enter using SSH into your node:
Step 2 - execute the following command to rescan wallet’s UTXOs:
`sed -i "s/\[Application Options\]/\[Application Options\]\nreset-wallet-transactions=true/g;" ~/umbrel/lnd/lnd.conf && sudo reboot`
Step 3 - Wait some time so LND can rescan all wallet’s UTXOs. If it solve the issue, run this to stop it from rescanning on a future restart:
`sed -i "s/reset-wallet-transactions=true//g;" ~/umbrel/lnd/lnd.conf && sudo reboot`
Wait, it can take quite a while.

This worked for me and several others.

Lounès Ksouri · Answer 23 · Fri Nov 19 2021 02:35:43 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Usually, in order to reset user data, we ask users to run this:

sudo systemctl stop umbrel-startup && sudo rm -rf ~/umbrel/lnd/!(lnd.conf) && sudo rm ~/umbrel/db/user.json && sudo rm ~/umbrel/db/umbrel-seed/seed && sudo systemctl start umbrel-startup

It basically deletes everything except the config file in lnd directory and remove Umbrel-specific user files. Then they have to go through Umbrel setup process (new/restore seed, password).

I've asked two users to do that but the funds wouldn't recover either, after a seed restore.

Leon Ward · Answer 24 · Fri Nov 19 2021 06:20:24 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I wonder, did you guys followed the steps on how to get your balance back pointed by an earlier comment? https://bitcoin.cipix.eu/en/umbrel-troubleshooting/#umbrel-rescan-utxo

Step 1 - Enter using SSH into your node:
Step 2 - execute the following command to rescan wallet’s UTXOs:
`sed -i "s/\[Application Options\]/\[Application Options\]\nreset-wallet-transactions=true/g;" ~/umbrel/lnd/lnd.conf && sudo reboot`
Step 3 - Wait some time so LND can rescan all wallet’s UTXOs. If it solve the issue, run this to stop it from rescanning on a future restart:
`sed -i "s/reset-wallet-transactions=true//g;" ~/umbrel/lnd/lnd.conf && sudo reboot`
Wait, it can take quite a while.

This worked for me and several others.

Yes, This was the approach I took, unfortunately it didn't fix it.

mohammad baniasad · Answer 25 · Mon Nov 22 2021 03:38:32 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I wonder, did you guys followed the steps on how to get your balance back pointed by an earlier comment? https://bitcoin.cipix.eu/en/umbrel-troubleshooting/#umbrel-rescan-utxo
Step 1 - Enter using SSH into your node:
Step 2 - execute the following command to rescan wallet’s UTXOs:
`sed -i "s/\[Application Options\]/\[Application Options\]\nreset-wallet-transactions=true/g;" ~/umbrel/lnd/lnd.conf && sudo reboot`
Step 3 - Wait some time so LND can rescan all wallet’s UTXOs. If it solve the issue, run this to stop it from rescanning on a future restart:
`sed -i "s/reset-wallet-transactions=true//g;" ~/umbrel/lnd/lnd.conf && sudo reboot`
Wait, it can take quite a while.
This worked for me and several others.
Yes, This was the approach I took, unfortunately it didn't fix it.
Im having the same problem.

had to restore with seed
node came up without any balance
tried restoring the lightning channels with rtl, it force closed the channels and now i have those funds in the wallet
but the onchain balance that I had is not back yet

im doing the approach said here by @leonward anyways to see if I get different results.
but it does not say how long it is going to take. so... waiting
anybody knows how long it takes?

Leon Ward · Answer 26 · Mon Nov 22 2021 03:44:29 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

My 2nd lnd.log above should provide some timestamps for actual info, but from memory it was maybe 30-60mins. I

Lounès Ksouri · Answer 27 · Mon Nov 22 2021 04:06:04 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Hey guys, with the help of @guggero we might have pinpointed the issue. Apparently, when you recover your seed, LND enters in "Recovery Mode" and start address discovery, i.e. try to find every address of your wallet that has already been used and add it to the wallet known addresses. If somehow LND is stopped during this address discovery, the process won't resume on restart and LND won't know about some of your addresses. The fix is to recreate the wallet (recover) so LND can go through the address discovery process again. Correct me if I'm wrong @guggero.

1- First, remove the reset-wallet-transactions option that you may have set previously.

sed -i '/reset-wallet-transactions=true/d;' ~/umbrel/lnd/lnd.conf

2- Reset your Umbrel user data

sudo systemctl stop umbrel-startup && sudo rm -rf ~/umbrel/lnd/!(lnd.conf) && sudo rm -f ~/umbrel/db/user.json && sudo rm -f ~/umbrel/db/umbrel-seed/seed && sudo systemctl start umbrel-startup

3- Go through the setup process and recover from your seed.

4- Wait and do NOT restart or shutdown your Umbrel. This is very important as stopping LND during address discovery won't resume that process and LND won't know some of your addresses.

Warning: If after a little while, the Lightning wallet / widget seems to be endlessly loading and you see some RPC error, wallet not created in LND logs, restart from Step 2.

Leon Ward · Answer 28 · Mon Nov 22 2021 05:22:20 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Yup, that solved it. Thinking back as to motivations of why I had stopped LND in case it helps think about changes in behavior / warnings / whatever.

First time was to copy an existing 'trusted' local copy of the chainstate etc, so something that only an advanced impatient user may try
Second time, while a good few days in to a full clean re-install performing a full download/processing of the blockchain, it was because I had the notification that a new version (0.4.8) of umbrel was available. Something that any user may do, at any time.

Thanks!

souspeed · Answer 29 · Sun Dec 12 2021 02:55:42 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Thanks all & @guggero for taking care!
Great to see progress happening.

julienPhA · Answer 30 · Sat Mar 12 2022 00:13:40 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

@louneskmt
Just because I'm interested:
Is there any possibility to set the numer of adresses and the block height?
Wallet recovery mode enabled with address lookahead of 250 addresses
starting recovery of wallet from height=696889

Fogelman1982 · Answer 31 · Fri Apr 29 2022 19:49:49 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Hey guys, with the help of @guggero we might have pinpointed the issue. Apparently, when you recover your seed, LND enters in "Recovery Mode" and start address discovery, i.e. try to find every address of your wallet that has already been used and add it to the wallet known addresses. If somehow LND is stopped during this address discovery, the process won't resume on restart and LND won't know about some of your addresses. The fix is to recreate the wallet (recover) so LND can go through the address discovery process again. Correct me if I'm wrong @guggero.

1- First, remove the reset-wallet-transactions option that you may have set previously.
sed -i '/reset-wallet-transactions=true/d;' ~/umbrel/lnd/lnd.conf
2- Reset your Umbrel user data
sudo systemctl stop umbrel-startup && sudo rm -rf ~/umbrel/lnd/!(lnd.conf) && sudo rm -f ~/umbrel/db/user.json && sudo rm -f ~/umbrel/db/umbrel-seed/seed && sudo systemctl start umbrel-startup
3- Go through the setup process and recover from your seed.

4- Wait and do NOT restart or shutdown your Umbrel. This is very important as stopping LND during address discovery won't resume that process and LND won't know some of your addresses.

Warning: If after a little while, the Lightning wallet / widget seems to be endlessly loading and you see some RPC error, wallet not created in LND logs, restart from Step 2.

The second step don´t work for me, but as I am running Umbrel on Ubuntu does it mean I can remove all files EXCEPT lnd.conf in umbrel/lnd and also remove the two files user.json and seed and then sudu ./scripts/start to get the installation/recover process running?

Lounès Ksouri · Answer 32 · Fri Apr 29 2022 23:17:50 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

@Fogelman1982 On a custom install, you can run the following command in your Umbrel root directory:

sudo scripts/stop && sudo rm -rf lnd/!(lnd.conf) && sudo rm -f db/user.json && sudo rm -f db/umbrel-seed/seed && sudo scripts/start

Fogelman1982 · Answer 33 · Mon May 02 2022 14:38:33 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

@Fogelman1982 On a custom install, you can run the following command in your Umbrel root directory:
sudo scripts/stop && sudo rm -rf lnd/!(lnd.conf) && sudo rm -f db/user.json && sudo rm -f db/umbrel-seed/seed && sudo scripts/start

Thanks a lot! First funds shown up after a few minutes, need to wait some more before all funds are shown I guess ;)

magnusolof · Answer 34 · Mon May 09 2022 23:48:04 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

@louneskmt I do not get to enter my seeds on step 3 "the wait thingy" is just spinning. What can i do now?

mrjuke · Answer 35 · Fri Jul 29 2022 02:28:03 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

@Fogelman1982 On a custom install, you can run the following command in your Umbrel root directory:
sudo scripts/stop && sudo rm -rf lnd/!(lnd.conf) && sudo rm -f db/user.json && sudo rm -f db/umbrel-seed/seed && sudo scripts/start

I used this on my Linux install (0.5.1) and it didn’t worked. Did I do anything wrong? Please help me as I can’t restore my on chain wallet funds in umbrel

jimbrend · Answer 36 · Fri Oct 27 2023 14:28:46 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Hi!

Lots of people here!

Also, lots of funds being secured onchain... many new channels being opened! Update to latest version! Make sure to secure funds to avoid a disaster recovery or we can troubleshoot any current setups to get them up and running again, and since the last date on this issue we added an Automated Recovery feature for SCB backups!

We're streamlining these processes and helping make them easier, feel free to reach out to https://www.umbrel.com/support if anyone has not been able to yet recover for currently recommended steps,

We can assist 1:1 there!

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