Flow not working in Material Setting

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Flow not working in Material Setting

RicXXX opened this issue 4 years ago · comments

Hello,
Using some soft material I noticed that "Flow" has to be adapted (compare to the flow used with PLA or PETG).

So with the Material Setting plugin I added "flow" to the material setting options.
The flow option appears in the printer setting tab (preferences/configure cura/material/Print settings)., but it has no effect on the slicer.

Thanks to have a look.
Ciao
Riccardo

Aldo Hoeben · Answer 1 · Thu Jun 18 2020 21:06:44 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

If the flow is specified in the "sidebar" settings or in a quality profile, this always overrides the value set for the material using this plugin. Could you attach a project file (File -> Save as...) for me to check if this is the case?

The next version of the plugin will add an entry to the contextmenu of the sidebar settings, which makes it possible to force using the value set in the material.

RicXXX · Answer 2 · Thu Jun 18 2020 23:17:24 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Waiting for the next version. enclosed the project file. Thanks to check and let me know. Ric Il giorno gio 18 giu 2020 alle ore 15:07 Aldo Hoeben < notifications@github.com> ha scritto:

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If the flow is specified in the "sidebar" settings or in a quality profile, this always overrides the value set for the material using this plugin. Could you attach a project file (File -> Save as...) for me to check if this is the case? The next version of the plugin will add an entry to the contextmenu of the sidebar settings, which makes it possible to force using the value set in the material. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#13 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AKPOBIO3JD7NUM46IYBX463RXIGPFANCNFSM4OBQ4QUA> .

Aldo Hoeben · Answer 3 · Thu Jun 18 2020 23:24:58 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Unfortunately, attachments don't work on github. Could you post a link, or add the file here on github?

RicXXX · Answer 4 · Fri Jun 19 2020 00:44:47 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

a.zip
Here it is.

Aldo Hoeben · Answer 5 · Fri Jun 19 2020 05:56:27 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Unfortunately, you did not save a project but you exported a 3MF file. If you use File -> Save... instead of File -> Export, the full configuration is included in the 3mf file along with the models. With the ufp file that you also included I could piece together a confirmation that your profiles do override what is set in the material.

If you want, you can help me test the functionality of the new version in this development snapshot. Download the file and drop it onto the Cura buildplate as if you are opening a 3d model.

RicXXX · Answer 6 · Fri Jun 19 2020 15:23:21 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

b.zip

Sorry for the misunderstanding about the file. Here the 3mf

I just installed the new version from the link. The flow value from material setting still does not work.

Let me know how I can help you.

Ciao
Riccardo

Aldo Hoeben · Answer 7 · Fri Jun 19 2020 15:38:42 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

The flow value from material setting still does not work.

Did you use the "Use value from material" option in the right-click menu of the "Material flow" setting in the main custom print settings floater?

RicXXX · Answer 8 · Fri Jun 19 2020 15:54:00 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

OK, I just discover the option "use value from material" with the right click (Thanks). It works. But I have to re-use it every time I change material or quality setting (I believe it is the normal behaviour) It could be improved by having a checkbox or a switch for "use value from material" option (don't know if it feasible). Il giorno ven 19 giu 2020 alle ore 09:38 Aldo Hoeben < notifications@github.com> ha scritto:

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The flow value from material setting still does not work. Did you use the "Use value from material" option in the right-click menu of the "Material flow" setting in the main custom print settings floater? — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#13 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AKPOBILHHR6RQ7Q5MKMJRADRXMIY7ANCNFSM4OBQ4QUA> .

Aldo Hoeben · Answer 9 · Fri Jun 19 2020 16:00:05 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

You can save the "use value from material" state in a profile.
Also, when you switch to another material or quality, Cura will ask you if you want to keep the setting or not.

RicXXX · Answer 10 · Fri Jun 19 2020 16:26:13 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

// You can save the "use value from material" state in a profile. But I believe It will save the value, not the state of "use value from material". // Also, when you switch to another material or quality, Cura will ask you if you want to keep the setting or not. After some months, I switched off this request. My Cura never keeps the modified setting, to be sure that I use the stored and verified setting. I found the option to keep the modified setting not practical for daily activity, good only in testing mode. Il giorno ven 19 giu 2020 alle ore 10:00 Aldo Hoeben < notifications@github.com> ha scritto:

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You can save the "use value from material" state in a profile. Also, when you switch to another material or quality, Cura will ask you if you want to keep the setting or not. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#13 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AKPOBIL5HAS3V5VX7T5LVP3RXMLJHANCNFSM4OBQ4QUA> .

Aldo Hoeben · Answer 11 · Fri Jun 19 2020 17:00:15 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

But I believe It will save the value, not the state of "use value from material".

You assumption is wrong. It saves the "rule" to use the value from the material.

My Cura never keeps the modified setting,

That would be something to report on the Cura issue queue then.

RicXXX · Answer 12 · Fri Jun 19 2020 17:11:53 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

But I believe It will save the value, not the state of "use value from material".
You assumption is wrong. It saves the "rule" to use the value from the material.

OK, trying it

My Cura never keeps the modified setting,
That would be something to report on the Cura issue queue then.

Nothing to report, I disabled it

RicXXX · Answer 13 · Fri Jun 19 2020 17:24:13 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

You assumption is wrong. It saves the "rule" to use the value from the material.

It works.
Not very instinctive, I mean for normal users that use the plugin without go in depth as we are doing here.
do you believe you can introduce a check or a switch to enable/disable "use value from material" that can be more user friendly/instinctive?

Aldo Hoeben · Answer 14 · Fri Jun 19 2020 17:29:28 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

do you believe you can introduce a check or a switch to enable/disable "use value from material"

Unfortunately, no I can't. That would be working against the architecture of Cura.

RicXXX · Answer 15 · Fri Jun 19 2020 17:40:53 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Unfortunately, no I can't. That would be working against the architecture of Cura.

Pitty.

Just for recap:
If I want to use "value from material" for different settings, I have to enable it (right click "use value from material") for each individual setting.
Then I can save this status in a profile.
If I have multiple profile I have to do it for any profile.

Aldo Hoeben · Answer 16 · Fri Jun 19 2020 17:47:12 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Yes, this is how Cura works.

I will make a "shortcut" from the Print Settings tab on the Materials page that (1) informs you if the value is overridden and (2) will let you force using the value from the material with a single click. I could even make a function there that forces the use of the material values for all listed settings, but I cannot make it so that this is always done automatically.

RicXXX · Answer 17 · Fri Jun 19 2020 18:01:41 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

(1) and (2) is a good solution.

but I cannot make it so that this is always done automatically.

You mean that the status "use value from material" has to be saved in the profiles?
If is like this, it is a good compromise, with the Cura architecture.

TechnoPhreak · Answer 18 · Fri Nov 27 2020 09:24:32 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Hello, I've been looking everywhere in Cura 4.8 after installing plugin ...

I cannot find where the option "Use value from Material" ..

I assume this is supposed to be in the Print settings panel ?

GMib · Answer 19 · Sun Dec 06 2020 18:19:22 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Hello, I've been looking everywhere in Cura 4.8 after installing plugin ...

I cannot find where the option "Use value from Material" ..

I assume this is supposed to be in the Print settings panel ?

same here, i right click everywhere and i can't find "Use value from Material" ;(

userosos · Answer 20 · Thu Dec 17 2020 04:34:26 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

same here, i right click everywhere and i can't find "Use value from Material" ;(

I can`t see to the point into the menu too.

userosos · Answer 21 · Thu Dec 17 2020 18:35:12 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

@fieldOfView Can you help with it, pls? If i changed an parameter in profile how i can use parameter from Material?
I can see that if i cloned an default profile and don't changed parameters i can change it from material but if i changed an settings from profile i can't changing one from material never. I think if add an setting for rewrite settings from material or blocking the parameters in Profile - it will be good.
I would like to know the behavior in the settings when changing the material in the materials also

userosos · Answer 22 · Sun Dec 20 2020 19:39:32 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Another logic:
When you change the material, the profile changes to the previously saved profile values, and all settings from the material are overwritten

Aldo Hoeben · Answer 23 · Thu Jan 07 2021 23:55:57 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

The "Use value from Material" option is part of the as yet unreleased next version of the plugin.

userosos · Answer 24 · Fri Jan 08 2021 22:44:02 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

The "Use value from Material" option is part of the as yet unreleased next version of the plugin.

Good! Thx! Can i use the beta version?

What other plans do you have for this addon?
It's a very good addon. I have many printers and had to create a profile for each one. Now I can use 1 profile for each printer or even 1 profile for all printers if I want.

UPD. I upload the master branch and test it.

userosos · Answer 25 · Sat Jan 09 2021 20:08:36 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I has an idea. Add Button for faster goto Materials/Print settings. Like the pic. If you can do it.

Upd1: May be the button need go to up if you can do it?

Rizwan Sarwar · Answer 26 · Fri Feb 26 2021 15:52:01 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

So when is the fix/next release coming?

Aldo Hoeben · Answer 27 · Sun Feb 28 2021 19:01:13 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

The very unhelpful answer is "when it is done". I have a lot on my plate at the moment. I hope to get around to finishing what I started in the second half of april. But that is by no means a promise.

userosos · Answer 28 · Tue Mar 02 2021 19:41:00 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

You can add a small logo in front of those settings that are read from the addon. It will be ok.

Andrew Sha · Answer 29 · Wed Sep 22 2021 15:25:58 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

The very unhelpful answer is "when it is done". I have a lot on my plate at the moment. I hope to get around to finishing what I started in the second half of april. But that is by no means a promise.

Hi. Any news?