Open internet communication

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Open internet communication

milanobrtlik opened this issue 6 years ago · comments

Hello,

i understand that this implementation is not ready for production. Still, I wonder how nodes communicate with each other on an open Internet without knowing their IP addresses. You need DHT with network identification or something else?

Conrado Quilles Gomes · Answer 1 · Tue Jan 23 2018 21:56:23 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

You can read here how Bitcoin does that.

In summary, the Bitcoin node needs to know at least one other node or a DNS service, from there it gets more peers and connects to them.

Naivecoin does not have a DNS service for discovery since it's a simple implementation and if someone decides to put it into production, at the beginning, it will not need a DNS since the nodes does more or less the same function.

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Milan Obrtlík · Answer 2 · Wed Jan 24 2018 16:44:42 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I agree that this question does not belong to the implementation of naivecoin. I'm just curious how nodes on the internet will know they belong to the same network. Maybe i should check P2P chat examples first.

Conrado Quilles Gomes · Answer 3 · Wed Jan 24 2018 22:39:47 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

They exchange a version ID in Bitcoin and an ID on Ethereum, that way they know if they belong to the same network.

Milan Obrtlík · Answer 4 · Fri Jan 26 2018 00:42:49 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I made a little research. Im totally confused with that P2P over nodejs, which is actually not P2P, because it needs some discovery method. Can you please make example for P2P networking?

0xJ0v0nni · Answer 5 · Fri Jan 26 2018 02:15:38 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Peer to peer as a concept isn't reliant on that implementation detail. Whether the P2P is hard coded, or discovery based, it’s still P2P. Of course we can implement a BC network with hard coded P2P, but you get what I’m saying. What are your thoughts on this Milan? On Jan 25, 2018, at 11:42 AM, MilanObrtlik <notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com>> wrote: I made a little research. Im totally confused with that P2P over nodejs, which is actually not P2P, because it needs some discovery method. Can you please make example for P2P networking? — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fconradoqg%2Fnaivecoin%2Fissues%2F24%23issuecomment-360525017&data=02%7C01%7Cjpharr2%40student.gsu.edu%7Ca1bdf948cfbd40ea3f5b08d56412acdd%7C704d822c358a47849a1649e20b75f941%7C0%7C0%7C636524953722257981&sdata=EhD9aEDItCtQNfKpmkl1pHvDXwkdMKq4oL%2F%2Birr6Y0I%3D&reserved=0>, or mute the thread<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fnotifications%2Funsubscribe-auth%2FAEqK_crWHiRWzhQBvjFBtsoLJ2pyFgnKks5tOK8KgaJpZM4Rphzt&data=02%7C01%7Cjpharr2%40student.gsu.edu%7Ca1bdf948cfbd40ea3f5b08d56412acdd%7C704d822c358a47849a1649e20b75f941%7C0%7C0%7C636524953722257981&sdata=p%2BdHmWzRivExwWfF4mXBAI2%2F%2BMNHD67FTIAJvhhUFTc%3D&reserved=0>.

Milan Obrtlík · Answer 6 · Fri Jan 26 2018 16:37:24 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I think that if there is a third party connecting the nodes together, the network can simply be turned off by turning off taht third party.

Is there a solution where nodes can connect themselves? Without help from outside?

Conrado Quilles Gomes · Answer 7 · Mon May 14 2018 08:49:53 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Not sure. Maybe someone could give me ideas on how to do that and at the same time not increasing the coin complexity.