************.com/china-************ (规范链接 canonical render) | GitHub 项目 project | GitHub Mirror 镜像 2 | GitHub Mirror 镜像 3 | 分裂标题版本 split header version | **镜像 China mirrors: ************.gitlab.io, htmlpreview.github.io, www.unpkg.com (tag), gitlab.com, raw.githack.com, cdn.statically.io, ************.netlify.app, china-************.onrender.com, gitlab.binets.fr (École Polytechnique), | 下载 HTML download: raw.githubusercontent.com, cdn.jsdelivr (tag)
反**政治宣传库。Anti-Chinese government propaganda. 常见问答集，新闻集和饭店和音乐建议。卐习**卐。FAQ, news compilation and restaurant and music recommendations. 卐 Heil Xi 卐.
住在**大陆有真名用户或者用**邮箱的网友请别给星星，不然你要被警察请喝茶。先注册一个Gmail/Protonmail匿名用户才来，最好也要用VPN/Tor/[shadowsocks]. Friends who live in China and have real name on account or who use a Chinese email provider, please don’t star this repo, or else the police might pay you a visit some day. First create an anonymous account with Gmail/Protonmail instead (non Chinese email provider), preferably from behind VPN/Tor/[shadowsocks]. 你不是一个人。未来需要隐藏的将是今天的五毛，而不是你。You are not alone. In the future, it is the wumaos who will have to hide, not you. See also: What should pro-democracy Chinese living in China do about the ************? 想要**住在**大陆的人应该干什么？.
This README is too large and GitHub cuts it up on github.com/************/china-************. You can view it fully at the canonical https://************.com/china-************ which is blocked in China since 2020 according to [greatfire] (but China is still the second largest hit location after USA according to Google Analytics), or one of the many Mirrors of this page (此网页的镜像).
- 1. About (关于)
- 2. Copypasta
- 3. Mirrors of this page (此网页的镜像)
- 4. GitHub repositories with censored information (政治敏感的GitHub库)
- 5. FAQ (常见问答集)
- 5.1. Why attack websites with censored keywords? (用审查词攻击网站有什么用呢？)
- 5.1.1. Does Ciro Santilli want to harm the Chinese programmers? ***想要伤害**程序员吗？
- 5.1.2. Does Ciro Santilli think that the Chinese are stupid or brainwashed? (***觉得**人是傻子或是被洗脑了吗？)
- 5.1.3. Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击)
- 5.1.4. Cute cat theory of digital activism (可爱猫理论)
- 5.1.5. Slacktivism (懒人行动主义)
- 5.2. Politics should not be posted in technical websites such as GitHub or Stack Overflow 不应该在技术网站例如Stack Overflow和GitHub讨论政治
- 5.3. Why would China be better without its ************? (为什么没有**的**会更好？)
- 5.3.1. Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (为什么**和言论自由能够让**变得更加富有？)
- 5.3.2. Censorship makes countries poorer (审查使国家更穷)
- 5.3.2.1. Chernobyl 2019 miniseries (切尔诺贝利_(迷你剧))
- 5.3.2.2. Censorship makes no one trust your country (审查使得沒有人相信你的国家)
- 5.3.2.3. Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查)
- 5.3.2.3.1. April 2022 Shanghai lockdown
- 5.3.2.3.2. Sitong Bridge protest (北京四通桥抗议, 2022, 彭立发, Peng Lifa, Peng Zaizhou, 彭载舟, Warrior of Sitong Bridge, 四通桥勇士)
- 5.3.2.3.3. 2022 COVID-19 protests in China (白纸运动, 白纸革命, White paper protests)
- 5.3.2.3.4. Li Wenliang (李文亮)
- 5.3.2.3.5. nCovMemory
- 5.3.2.3.6. People arrested for reporting on the 2019 Corona Virus (因报道 2019 年冠状病毒而被捕的人)
- 5.3.2.3.7. Fang Bin (方斌)
- 5.3.3. Censorship makes it harder to solve social problems (审查制度使解决社会问题变得更加困难)
- 5.3.4. Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (为什么**和言论自由会让**不太可能发动战争？)
- 5.3.5. The Chinese masses are still uneducated, and not fit for free speech and democracy **大众愚昧，不能好好选领导
- 5.3.6. As long as China is developing economically, it is fine to violate the human rights of a few million people (只要经济好，我不在乎人权)
- 5.3.7. Democracies have less corruption than ************s (**国家的腐败比**国家少)
- 5.4. Will the keyword attacks really help to destroy the firewall? (关键字攻击真的有助于破坏防火墙吗？)
- 5.5. Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (外国人不应该干预**政治)
- 5.5.1. In Memory of Bethune (纪念白求恩)
- 5.5.2. The CCP would not be in power if it weren’t for the Second Sino-Japanese War (如果没有抗日战争，**就不会执政)
- 5.5.3. Non-Chinese people have been brainwashed by the USA know nothing about China (非**人被美国洗脑，对**一无所知)
- 5.5.4. The CCP exaggerates the threat of the West to keep in power (**夸大了西方要继续掌权的威胁)
- 5.6. Ciro Santilli and this page are completely biased against the Chinese Government! (***和本页完全对**政府有偏见！)
- 5.6.1. Ciro Santilli’s claim to the Qing Dynasty throne (***清朝皇帝觊觎)
- 5.6.2. Ciro Santilli’s father-in-law (***的)
- 5.6.3. Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed (***对**成见很深，无法改变)
- 5.6.4. Does Ciro Santilli support Falun Gong just because his wife and mother-in-law do it? (***是否仅仅因为他的妻子和岳母就支持**功？)
- 5.6.5. Why did Ciro Santilli start his keyword attack? (为什么***开始他的关键字攻击？)
- 5.6.5.1. Ciro Santilli’s mother-in-law (***的岳母)
- 5.6.5.2. Ciro Santilli’s post when his mother-in-law was put into jail for doing Falun Gong (岳母因修炼**功入狱时的帖子)
- 5.6.5.3. Further details about Ciro Santilli’s mother-in-law’s persecution (***岳母受**的更多细节)
- 5.6.5.4. In the Tweet about his mother in law, Ciro Santilli says "correctional facility", but reeducation through labour has been abolished
- 5.7. China is fine as it is, stop making it worse (**很好，别让它变得更糟)
- 5.7.1. I like my ************ (我喜欢我的****)
- 5.7.1.1. Seventeen Moments of Spring (1973, 春天的十七个瞬间, Soviet series about a Soviet spy against the Nazis, 关于苏联间谍反对纳粹的苏联系列)
- 5.7.1.2. Most Chinese people like their ************ (**大众支持他们的**)
- 5.7.1.3. Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities (大多数**人不关心少数民族)
- 5.7.1.3.1. First they came (起初他們)
- 5.7.1.3.2. It is fine for the CCP to treat some of its citizens unfairly if the majority is better off (如果大多数人过得更好，那么**不公平地对待一些公民是可以的)
- 5.7.1.3.3. This is Ciro Santilli’s personal problem, we have nothing to do with it, stop punishing us for it (这是***的个人问题，我们与此无关，不要因此而惩罚我们)
- 5.7.1.3.4. If anyone disagrees with the government they must be punished to keep the stability of the country (如果有人不同意政府，他们必须受到惩罚以保持国家的稳定)
- 5.7.1. I like my ************ (我喜欢我的****)
- 5.8. There are bad things happening all over the world, why doesn’t Ciro Santilli fight for those causes as well/instead? (世界各地都有不好的事情发生，为什么***不为这些原因而战/相反？)
- 5.8.1. Western democracies are not perfect (西方的**有很多缺点)
- 5.8.2. Western democracies are not perfect (西方的**有很多缺点)
- 5.8.2.1. Two wrongs don’t make a right (积非成是)
- 5.8.2.2. The West is racist against black people (西方人对黑人有种族主义)
- 5.8.2.3. Western democracies have invaded other countries and crushed separatism (西方**国家**别国粉碎分裂主义)
- 5.8.2.4. Western democracies also censor subjects such as child porn and hate speech (西方**国家也审查儿童色情和仇恨言论等主题)
- 5.8.2.5. Western society is extremely unequal (西方社会极度不平等)
- 5.8.2.6. Life of Brian (布莱恩的一生, 1979)
- 5.8.2.7. Snowden (斯诺登)
- 5.8.2.8. Bad things have been done in the name of freedom (以自由的名义人做过很多坏事)
- 5.9. Is the Chinese government evil? (**共产党是邪恶的吗？)
- 5.10. Comparisons between the CCP and Nazi Germany (纳粹德国和**长得很想)
- 5.11. Contributing guidelines (贡献指南)
- 5.12. Personal questions about Ciro Santilli (关于***的问题)
- 5.12.1. Has Ciro Santilli you ever lived in China? (***住过**吗？)
- 5.12.2. Is Ciro Santilli Chinese? (***是**人吗？)
- 5.12.3. Does Ciro Santilli speak Chinese? (***会说中文吗？)
- 5.12.4. Is Ciro Santilli a radical? (***是激进分子吗？)
- 5.12.5. Ciro Santilli is stupid (***是个傻瓜)
- 5.12.6. Is Ciro Santilli a SJW?
- 5.12.7. Does Ciro Santilli hate China? (***讨厌**吗？)
- 5.12.8. Ciro Santilli’s China freedom campaign is selfish (***是自私的)
- 5.12.8.1. Ciro Santilli is doing his China freedom campaign to become famous (***正在做他的**自由运动以成名)
- 5.12.8.2. Ciro Santilli is doing his China freedom campaign to vent off his anger (***正在进行他的**自由运动以发泄他的愤怒)
- 5.12.8.3. Is Ciro Santilli’s china-************ campaign funded or otherwise supported by some organization? 谁收买***散布关于**的谣言？
- 5.12.9. Would Ciro Santilli be doing his China freedom campaign if he was in China? (如果他在**，***会做他的**自由运动吗？)
- 5.12.10. Doesn’t Ciro Santilli have anything better to do than pissing off China? (除了反对**以外，***有没有别的更好的事儿要作吗？)
- 5.12.11. Is Ciro Santilli against Communism/Socialism in general or just against the Chinese Communist Party specifically? Ciro Santilli 是普遍反对共产主义/社会主义还是专门反对**共产党？
- 5.13. People in China have already considered democracy, and rejected it (**人已经考虑要不要**, 到底决定不要了)
- 5.14. Would it be right to use violence to overthrow the CCP? (用暴力推翻**正确吗？)
- 5.15. Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a ************? (**不是**！)
- 5.16. What should all pro-democracy people do about China? (所有的**派人士应该干什么？)
- 5.16.1. Civil disobedience (公民不服從)
- 5.16.2. Photobombing-like attacks
- 5.16.3. What should Western countries do about China? (西方国家应该怎么对待**？)
- 5.16.4. Western companies that comply with Chinese censorship requests (遵守**审查要求的西方公司)
- 5.16.5. Entertainers who support the CCP (支持**的艺人)
- 5.16.6. Entertainers who oppose the CCP (反对**的艺人)
- 5.17. Chinese Interference in the Western education systems (**对西方教育体系的干预)
- 5.17.1. Confucius institute (孔子学院)
- 5.17.2. University espionage (大学间谍)
- 5.17.3. Chinese student coordinator in Germany tells exchange students not to support democracy (2020, 德国学校开班会4反对**)
- 5.17.4. Thousand Talents Program (千人计划)
- 5.17.5. Chinese Students and Scholars Association (CSSA, **学生学者联合会)
- 5.17.6. United Front Work Department (UFWD, ****统一战线工作部)
- 5.17.7. Astroturfing
- 5.18. What should pro-democracy Chinese living in China do about the ************? 想要**住在**大陆的人应该干什么？
- 5.19. Ciro Santilli’s reply policy (***的回答政策)
- 5.20. Who is behind this amazing FAQ? (谁是这个惊人的常见问题解答的幕后推手？)
- 5.21. How do different websites view Ciro Santilli’s profile? (不同的网站如何看来 Ciro Santilli 的个人资料？)
- 5.21.1. Stack Overflow
- 5.21.1.1. Stack Overflow forbids criticizing the character of genocidal political leaders like Xi Jinping
- 5.21.1.2. Stack Overflow political image answer placeholder (2021)
- 5.21.1.3. Stack Overflow mods refuse to clarify if anti-CCP imagery is allowed or not (2021)
- 5.21.1.4. Other openly dissident users on Stack Overflow (Stack Overflow 上的其他公开持不同政见的用户)
- 5.21.2. GitHub
- 5.21.2.1. Samizdat (Soviet underground propagation of censored materials, 秘密出版物, самиздат)
- 5.21.2.2. How to report a user on GitHub (GitHub上怎么举报用户？)
- 5.21.2.3. GitHub censored subdomains (GitHub 审查的子域)
- 5.21.2.4. GitHub gov-takedowns (由其各自政府在某个国家审查的仓库的GitHub官方列表)
- 5.21.2.5. GitHub "This repository may contain objectionable content" (此仓库可能包含令人反感的内容)
- 5.21.2.6. GitHub censorship guidelines (GitHub 审查指南)
- 5.21.2.7. Gitee
- 5.21.2.8. GitHub-Chinese-Top-Charts (GitHub中文排行榜)
- 5.21.3. Zhihu (知乎, censored Quora clone, 审查 Quora 克隆)
- 5.21.4. Zhihu censorship (知乎审查)
- 5.21.5. Quora
- 5.21.6. PTT Bulletin Board System (Taiwanese message board, 批踢踢實業坊)
- 5.21.7. LIHKG (連登, Hong Kong Reddit clone)
- 5.21.8. Google (谷歌)
- 5.21.1. Stack Overflow
- 5.1. Why attack websites with censored keywords? (用审查词攻击网站有什么用呢？)
- 6. Anti-CCP information sources (反**信息来源)
- 7. Separatism (分离主义, Taiwan **, Xinjiang **, Hong Kong 香港)
- 7.1. Taiwan (Republic of China, **, 中華民國)
- 7.2. Xinjiang (**)
This repo has the following goals:
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allow copy pasting links to answers to questions/comments that have been posted a million times before by [wumao], mostly under: FAQ (常见问答集). This was the original goal.
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serve as a censorship bomb to block GitHub in China: Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击) to destroy the [gfw] and therefore the CCP. Or more realistically get added to the GitHub gov-takedowns (由其各自政府在某个国家审查的仓库的GitHub官方列表) hall of fame.
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be a fun and sometimes silly source of Chinese mostly anti-CCP culture like a better Unencyclopedia / Encyclopedia Dramatica without the stupid stereotype jokes. Just quickly browse the pictures with Ctrl + F "Figure" and have fun.
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serve as a place where people can post interesting related stuff in the issues: https://github.com/************/china-************/issues see also: I want to take my chances and make a shitpost in ************/china-************ (屎帖子)
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highlight positive about China’s culture outside of its shitty government, such as food and [music]. This has two goals:
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teach foreigners (maybe even Chinese people on certain points) about amazing Chinese things that they can consume
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show wumaos that Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) is not as clueless about China as they think
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Here’s an image/sentence copypasta/summary of key events for the Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击).
Another advantage of this is that since it comes first in the repo, it ensures that key elements show up on github.com despite file size cutups: isaacs/github#1610.
Each summary section contains a link to the main section, which contains sources and description of each image.
编程随想 Programthink
社会主义核心价值观 Core socialist values
水浒传 Water margin
我喜欢我的**制度 I like my ************
**事件 Tiananmen square protests 1989
Music!
**功 Falun Gong 1999 70M believer religion banned
**改造中心 Xinjiang re-education camps 2018
小熊维尼 Winnie the Pooh 2018
*** Hao Haidong Chinese soccer superstar turns against the CCP 2020
冠状病毒审查 Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus
基督** Christian persecution 2018
LGBT权利 The suppression of homosexuality
996.ICU
Gay Putin
The poisoning of Alexei Navalny 2020
Vajiralongkorn Hamtaro
You can download the webpage locally from GitHub at: https://github.com/************/china-************/archive/gh-pages.zip
Media such as images are not stored in this repository, but rather at https://github.com/************/china-************-media to keep the lightweight clone. That downloaded HTML will read images from that repository, e.g. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/************/china-************-media/master/Xi_Jinping_The_Governance_of_China_photo.jpg. But we’ve learnt after creating that maybe the raw.githubusercontent.com subdomain is censored: GitHub censored subdomains (GitHub 审查的子域). If anyone can confirm, we will start using another image provider by default.
Clone locally with Git using GitHub images:
git clone https://github.com/************/china-************ cd china-************ git checkout gh-pages xdg-open README.html
Build it yourself:
bundle install make xdg-open README.html
Build and view the multipage version:
make multipage xdg-open out/multipage/README.html
Build with GitLab served images:
git clone https://github.com/************/china-************ cd china-************ make MEDIA=MEDIA=https://gitlab.com/************/china-************-media/-/raw/master
Build with local images:
git clone https://github.com/************/china-************ git clone https://github.com/************/china-************-media cd china-************ make MEDIA=../china-************-media
or build to use GitLab images:
Given GitHub censored subdomains (GitHub 审查的子域), this might be the only way to view the images from China.
The cool thing about Git is that we can maintain several mirrors on multiple websites very easily:
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https://github.com/************/china-************ Canonical source and rendered output. If ever GitHub gov-takedowns (由其各自政府在某个国家审查的仓库的GitHub官方列表) we do this: Strategy if this repo gets added to GitHub gov-takedowns (如果此 repo 被添加到 GitHub gov-takedowns 中的策略)
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https://github.com/************/china-************-2 mirror in case they block just https://github.com/************/china-************, see also: Strategy if this repo gets added to GitHub gov-takedowns (如果此 repo 被添加到 GitHub gov-takedowns 中的策略). Active renaming in place due to [chinese-web-browser-censorship]
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https://gitlab.com/************/************: a mirror just so that some interesting stuff will show up at https://gitlab.com/************/************. The policy is to transfer any [wumao] issues from there to https://github.com/************/china-************. Interestingly, ************/************#53 from that project because the second yandex.com hit for "**事件" as of 2022/04/17, and the only one that is not yet censored in China entirely, which drives reasonable traffic (3500 hist / 2 weeks).
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https://gitlab.com/************/china-************
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their gitlab.com render is shit for some reason, clicking on the ToC does not jump to headers properly, not sure why, IDs look correct
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one really cool thing about gitlab is that it can serve images from directly gitlab.com e.g. https://gitlab.com/************/china-************-media/-/raw/master/Xi_Jinping_The_Governance_of_China_photo.jpg unlike GitHub which has the
raw.subdomain: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/************/china-************-media/master/Xi_Jinping_The_Governance_of_China_photo.jpg This makes it impossible to block the GitLab images without blocking all of gitlab.com, until GitLab starts a gov-takedowns of their own. -
https://************.gitlab.io/china-************ GitLab Pages. Works fine. Let’s see if they can block subdomains: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/************.gitlab.io/china-************
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Maybe some day https://gitlab.cn/ ? :-) Edit 2021-03, yup, it happened, with [icp-license] and all
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Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的)'s name at: https://about.gitlab.cn/security/vulnerability-acknowledgements/
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no free public SaaS yet, but it might come, though they are saying 30 day trial only: https://about.gitlab.cn/free-trial/
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https://gitee.com/************/china-************ on Gitee, blocked after 12 hours: Gitee censorship (Gitee 审查)
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https://gitlab.binets.fr/ciro.duran-santilli/china-************: a GitLab instance run by and reserved for students and ex-students of École Polytechnique, in which Ciro Santilli previously studied. They also have a few Chinese students every year, that’s how Ciro met Ciro Santilli’s wife (***的老婆), it will be fun when those students see this.
Mirrors controlled by other people, thus forming a type of Samizdat (Soviet underground propagation of censored materials, 秘密出版物, самиздат):
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https://git.kiwifarms.net/CrunkLord420/china-************ auto-pull Gitea mirror on Kiwi Farms, a politically incorrect social network website
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https://github.com/cheezcharmer/chinese-************: Ciro likes that this due actually changed the repository title, thus making it harder to auto-censor everything in one go
Ones that went down:
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https://crabapi.cn by https://github.com/CrabTechs says name is 薛钰隆 and gives contact details and photo. Please by God be fake details. A .cn mirror, let’s see how long it lasts. Up: https://web.archive.org/web/20220517075452/https://crabapi.cn/ Down the following day. Twitter: https://twitter.com/CrabTechs_ Backlink from https://site.ip138.com/ and https://site.ip138.com/crabapi.cn to ************.com. Down 2022-08.
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https://china.vkoor.com/ presumably by https://github.com/Vkoor who is a collaborator of this project, e.g. #533. They’re also hosting a search engine proxy at https://www.vkoor.com/, TODO Google? See also: Google mirrors (谷歌镜像). Down 2022-08.
GitHub Pages: https://************.com/china-************ trade-offs with https://github.com/************/china-************:
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pros
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cut up to 512KB of source, and therefor unacceptable as the only source: isaacs/github#1610
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GitHub’s camo keeps hiccuping and not showing images
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and YouTube videos show inline there
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cons
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domain will eventually get blocked in China. [greatfire] https://zh.greatfire.org/https/************.com shows that in 2020-01-19 the domain was unblocked, but on the next text at 2020-05-23 it was "contradictory".
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Camo bypasses the need for VPN, since most images are served from [wayback-machine] which is blocked in China.
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It is really interesting to see how many people star the GitHub repository, and then a few minutes later they think about how they might get put in jail, and then unstar it. Talk about Chilling effect (寒蝉效应)! But yes, for the love of God, please stay safe: What should pro-democracy Chinese living in China do about the ************? 想要**住在**大陆的人应该干什么？.
GitHub Pages was first enabled in 2020-03-22 at https://github.com/************/china-************/commit/0b362a83fb5dd55f67b9d351551d0c18e7f3229a.
The perfect solution might be to download all images and upload them to https://github.com/************/media since GitHub content does not go through Camo, we have to see if such images don’t fail to load as often.
A few NPM/Git CDNs can also be used to bypass subdomain blocks, and some actually render HTML with the correct content type. Lists of such CDNs:
Some we’ve found, with HTML content type:
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https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/************/china-************/gh-pages/blob/index.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/htmlpreview.github.io%3Fhttps%3A//github_com/************/china-************/gh-pages/blob/index_html%3D
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https://www.unpkg.com/china-************@latest/README.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/www.unpkg.com/china-************%40latest/README.html
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Blocked when last checked:
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https://raw.githack.com/************/china-************/gh-pages/index.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/raw.githack.com/************/china-************/gh-pages/index.html blocked since 2021-05-20
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https://cdn.statically.io/gh/************/china-************/gh-pages/index.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/cdn.statically.io/gh/************/china-************/gh-pages/index.html blocked since 2021-05-20
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https://xenodochial-heisenberg-0fc0f1.netlify.app/ from https://www.netlify.com/. Auto sync with Git.
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https://china-************.onrender.com/ from https://render.com/. Auto sync with Git.
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https://china-************.web.app/ TODO get working, explained under "hosting": https://console.firebase.google.com/u/0/project/china-************/hosting/sites
Without HTML content type:
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https://raw.githubusercontent.com/************/china-************/gh-pages/index.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/raw.githubusercontent.com/************/china-************/gh-pages/index.html
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https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/china-************@latest/README.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/china-************%40latest/README.html
We’ve also tried to use jsfiddle like-services, but most don’t work well:
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https://jsfiddle.net/************/0tL3ckqb/ very slow to load, but eventually does
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https://jsbin.com/ HTML too long
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https://codepen.io/ 1MB limit
List of such services: https://codysaylor.com/notes/comparing-codepen-jsfiddle-cssdeck-liveweave-jsbin-dabblet/
We also have a NPM Node.js package https://www.npmjs.com/package/china-************. After installing NPM, you can be use it as:
npm i -g china-************ china-************ > README.html
This forces China to also block/curate package managers to block this repo. The package is already available in the following NPM Chinese mirrors, both which were blocked at some point:
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Taobao: https://registry.npm.taobao.org/china-************ (archive).
Noticed down as of 2021-02-23, replaced by a dummy package admined by fengmk2@gmail.com presumably https://github.com/fengmk2 and https://fengmk2.com/ and https://twitter.com/fengmk2 He is a large NPM contributor, and likely
cnpmtoo. TODO is he pro or against [censorship] based on online comments?In order to overcome this, includers
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Aliyun from [alibaba]: https://developer.aliyun.com/mirror/npm/package/china-************ (archive).
Taken down as 404 likely around 2021-02-22 after come incoming links from https://developer.aliyun.com to https://************.com/china-************?spm=a2c6h.14275010.0.0.60be9dc4vwIZTP and
?spm=.14275010.0.0.60be9dc4PsRmA.
There is actually a cnpm tool to install from Chinese mirrors: https://github.com/cnpm/cnpm.
We also managed to upload a Python PyPi package at: https://pypi.org/project/china-************/ Is as:
python3 -m pip install --user --upgrade china-************ china-************.py > README.html
This package was deleted by pypi in 2023 without any warning or notification:
and re-attempting upload fails with:
ERROR HTTPError: 400 Bad Request from https://upload.pypi.org/legacy/
The name 'china-************' isn't allowed. See https://pypi.org/help/#project-name for more information.
Bastanrds and Cowards.
Like NPM, this will also have Chinese mirrors that will need to be censored by their admins ovrview https://titanwolf.org/Network/Articles/Article?AID=25a20c20-c97b-4bfe-af67-760861343658 :
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http://pypi.douban.com/simple/china-************/ vs http://pypi.douban.com/simple/numpy both up March 2021
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http://mirrors.aliyun.com/pypi/simple/china-************/ vs http://mirrors.aliyun.com/pypi/simple/numpy both down March 2021 but in a different way, so maybe it was censored already
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http://pypi.mirrors.opencas.cn/simple/china-************ vs http://pypi.mirrors.opencas.cn/simple/numpy both down March 2021
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http://pypi.v2ex.com/simple/china-************ vs http://pypi.v2ex.com/simple/numpy both down March 2021
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https://pypi.mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/simple/china-************ vs https://pypi.mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/simple/numpy both up March 2021
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reference: https://pypi.org/simple/china-************/ vs https://pypi.org/simple/numpy/
We later found on Google by chance that libraries.io picked it up and rendered the README.adoc nicely as well: https://libraries.io/pypi/china-************ (archive). This is why packaging is a good idea.
A programmatic interface is also exposed on those packages, making it easy to quickly add a --china option to your project, e.g. from Python:
import china_************ assert "Tiananmen Square protests" in china_************.get_data() print(china_************.get_data())
or from Node.js:
const china_************ = require('china-************');
if (!china_************.get_data().includes("Tiannmen Square protests")) throw 0;
console.log(china_************.get_data());
You have to do the assert after the imports because otherwise Chinese mirrors could replace the real package with dummy packages to not break imports, as was already done once at https://registry.npm.taobao.org/china-************.
This outputs the rendered HTML, which end users should the pipe into a file:
./your-program --china > README.html xdg-open README.html
Concrete examples:
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https://github.com/************/vcdvcd#vcdcat-china. Sample forks removing the most important functionality:
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https://github.com/riverlane/vcdvcd/commits/master by employee Seyed Amir Alavi of quantum computing company https://www.riverlane.com/ with commit "Removed politics from package dependencies of setup.py". Seyed appears to be Iranian.
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https://github.com/snhobbs/vcdvcd/commit/d7124e49fb1c63002e830f8c866266447b0f5bb3 by https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonnhobbs/. To be fair, they left a star.
These also offer great plausible deniability: a citizen in China could always argue that they were just interested in the software itself, and had no choice but to download it.
TODO: create an Ubuntu PPA and Ruby gem as well.
Create tags,and update all mirrors in one go with: push-mirrors:
sudo apt install python3-setuptools python3 -m pip install --user setuptools wheel twine ./push-mirrors
In particular, that script calls push:
./push
which is more lightweight and pushes just to GitHub and GitLab Pages, so we are going to be using that more often to avoid overloading package managers too much.
./push is used to publish every commit.
There is no need to update package versions or add git tags, all of that gets done automatically by the script!
See also: Protestware.
Another source of China-specific mirroring of this project are GitHub proxies, https://linuxpip.org/github-in-china/ contains an overview:
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https://hub.fgit.ml/ this one is quite professional, offering paid access plans for better performance as seen at https://fgit.ml
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https://hub.fastgit.org/ this appears to auto-redirect to GitHub from non-Chinese IPs, but presumably shows the pages for Chinese IPs, e.g. we had hits from http://hub.fastgit.org/************/china-************ in 2021-03-25. This happened soon after SEO optimizations mentioned at: Zhao Heming (召赫名) and might be related.
At #945 for some incomprehensible reason, user https://github.com/StarOnTheSky claiming to be from the fastgit team asked mentions of fastgit to be removed from this repository, menacing to report to How to report a user on GitHub (GitHub上怎么举报用户？) otherwise.
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https://github.com.cnpmjs.org/ as of March 2021, it often reaches an apparently random "Whoa there! You have triggered an abuse detection mechanism.". But other time it succeeds, e.g. some of the times: https://github.com.cnpmjs.org/************/china-************ is visible.
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https://a1.mk-proxy.ml/-----https://github.com/************/china-************ generated from http://toolwa.com/github/
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https://github-dotcom.gateway.web.tr/************/china-************ a Turkish proxy. They have their own censorship issues as well of course.
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https://phoenix.yizimg.com/************/china-************ Not sure origin, https://web.archive.org/web/20200221135123/http://www.yizimg.com:80/ has a little bit of information
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using Cloudflare workers:
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https://github-wiki-see.page. Not made for Chinese specifically, but has huge PageRank on Yandex for Chinese search terms. Stated mission is to improve SEO of GitHub which header blocks many search results without an explicit public guideline.
Related: * https://gitmemory.com/************/china-************ appears to be Chinese: https://www.reddit.com/r/github/comments/iiolp8/what_the_hell_is_gitmemorycom/
For lists of censored information outside of GitHub see: [lists-of-material-censored-in-china].
For content outside of GitHub: [lists-of-material-censored-in-china].
Mentioned in other sections:
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https://github.com/jasonqng/chinese-keywords mentioned at Where can I find good words for a keyword attack? (我在哪里可以找到关键字攻击的好词？)
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https://github.com/fuck-xuexiqiangguo/Fuck-XueXiQiangGuo from [fuck-xuexiqiangguo]
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from [metoo]
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https://github.com/fuckcqcs/fuckcqcs at [changsheng-bio-technology-vaccine-data-falsification-incident-2018]
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https://github.com/zhangrunxu/zhangrunxu.github.io from [xu-zhangrun]
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https://github.com/hmsjy2017/Google-Mirrors from Google mirrors (谷歌镜像)
Not mentioned in other sections:
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taibangle (太棒了)
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https://github.com/Project-Gutenberg/Pincong see also [pincong]
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https://speechfree.github.io/cultural-revolution-database/ **文化大革命文库 The Chinese Cultural Revolution Database
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https://github.com/Luterngun/Record_of_Survival_in_Digital_Totalitarian_Era small docuement that goes over [censorship-circumvention] and opsec. There was a PDF on GitHub but got removed from master (still in Git history), now links to external websites only. Newbs.
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https://github.com/nodebe4 personal account with anti-CCP projects
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https://twitter.com/tansunit claims name 陳純一, "Previous: NGO worker, educator, social activist. Present: Master student @Univ_Paris"
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https://github.com/NodeBE4/hero 自由人的英雄榜 "List of fredom heroes"
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https://github.com/NodeBE4/impact good list of Chinese political projects on GitHub
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https://github.com/woct0rdho/pkuholebackup/ appears to contain a list of posts of anonymized (Alice/Bob/Carol/Dave/…) deleted posts from some Peking University (PKU) chat system. The posts are from 2013 to 2019. TODO how could they obtain that list? Who delete the posts in the first place? Authors or authority?
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https://github.com/ejiaogl/FuckCoolapk TODO understand better: in 2016 this company started blocking political commentary from their app, and people didn’t like it seems. But there were so many complaints, that people manipulated things such that they ended up banning accounts that hadn’t posted anything. What does that GitHub project do?
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酷安 is the company name: https://www.coolapk.com/
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https://github.com/ejiaogl/FuckCoolapk/wiki/Background-information "316"事件 (316 event)
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https://github.com/xi-yu-yan-kai-fa/Xi-Yuyan/tree/f8364a8b8f1d783e4fa32de548bec46069407c1b 习语言 esoteric programming language that mimics [xi-jinping] jargon natural language. Appears to be specification only, no implementation provided.
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https://github.com/ycjyy/ycjyy. Several news reposts on comments, e.g. ycjyy/ycjyy#302. Particularly likes the site https://www.aboluowang.com/index.html 阿波罗综合新闻网 "Appolo Comprehensive News Website"
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https://github.com/u2017/u2017/wiki has an anti-CCP wiki. Likely [falun-gong] believer given the imagery on the index page.
Interesting users:
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https://github.com/gfw-breaker
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appears to give a lot of focus to [falun-gong], e.g.:
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https://github.com/gfw-breaker/truth Falun Gong information repository
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https://github.com/gfw-breaker/banned-news1 automatic scraper of news from banned websites into the repository, with top sites being [falun-gong-media]
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present in gov-takedowns/China (由**在国审查的库仓的GitHub官方列表)
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https://github.com/bannedbook/fanqiang is the main repository about [censorship-circumvention], TODO what it contains exactly? Code, or just documentation of existing methods?
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https://github.com/breakwa11 likely previous ShadowsocksR dev: [censorship-circumvention], 10k+ followers 2020, but no repos, so forced takedown.
Non-information but also interesting:
TODO evaluate:
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https://github.com/FuckAntiAddiction/BiligameAddictionNotLimited is this a repo to overcome [video-game-ban]?
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dropod/issues#6675 some kind of backup bot from other websites
Reasonable topics:
Sensitive but not necessarily censored, maybe re-evaluate:
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https://github.com/I-S00N/I-S00N Anxun leak
Canonical source code of: https://************.com/china-************/
Basically Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) alone (surprise!), with very minor direct contributions from very awesome people due to:
and major contributions from original meme makers all over the world which Ciro merely curates: Anti-CCP information sources (反**信息来源).
See also:
Related:
Jekyll GitHub Pages repository that saves full text copies of censored articles:
本仓库存放被删文章
This repository stores deleted articles.
Also accompanies a dynamic forum https://2049bbs.xyz/ which appears to be where content for the static pages gets discussed and brought up. But it possible that the website has been compromised and is leaking identity of users. At some point, https://2049bbs.xyz went down. Live https://web.archive.org/web/20200719151022/https://2049bbs.xyz/ dead: https://archive.vn/JFqCJ
The "Terminus" in the repo name seems to be a reference to Isaac Asimov’s fictional Terminus planet which is called 端点星 in Chinese, but it is not clear where the 2049 comes from in that context. Forgetting the Chinese name, Terminus2049 could be a reference to the fictional "World War Terminus" from the Blade Runner 2049 (2019) movie, which also explains the 2049.
First commit on 2018-04-27, GitHub pages domain blocked in China at least since 2019-03 according to [greatfire]: https://zh.greatfire.org/search/all/https%3A//terminus2049.github.io but not in GitHub gov-takedowns (由其各自政府在某个国家审查的仓库的GitHub官方列表) as of 2020-04.
The full post list can be seen most conveniently at: https://github.com/Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io/tree/master/_posts The number of articles is insane, usually several every day.
Most articles appear to be taken from recent news at the time of writting, although there are a few from before the repo started. As of 2020-04, the oldest article was from 2016 [metoo] events reported by [yue-xin], some other topics include:
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[gay-rights] https://github.com/Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io/blob/master/_posts/2018-04-14-LGBTRights-advocacy-china.md
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[nine-nine-six-icu] https://github.com/Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io/blob/master/_posts/2019-04-04-996-ICU.md
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[lebron-james-opposes-hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019] https://github.com/Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io/blob/master/_posts/2019-10-11-NBA.md
They use Jekyll tags a lot, which makes for a good grouping of the topics.
In 2020-04-25, it was reported that three Beijing-based contributors were arrested during Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查):
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https://www.rfa.org/mandarin/Xinwen/7-04252020144555.html Chinese article, gives the Chinese names, and some background on the arrested people
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https://qz.com/1846277/china-arrests-users-behind-github-coronavirus-memories-page/
People:
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Chen Mei (陈玫)
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/玫-陈-1607b735/ a LinkedIn account with matching photo and name
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https://github.com/cmmei, down 2020-12, live archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20200101232039/https://github.com/cmmei. Includes https://web.archive.org/web/20180611153507/https://github.com/cmmei/Banned-zh
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Cai Wei (蔡伟)
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https://github.com/thphd/2047 mentioned below reveals and email caiw15@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn and profiles/further aliases:
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Xiao Tang (小唐), who is also Cai Wei’s girlfriend
In 2020-06-12 their families received calls saying that they had been charged with [picking-quarrels]:
In 2021-05-11 they were charged: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/11/two-plead-guilty-in-case-highlighting-chinas-online-control
Ciro’s petition to free them: https://github.com/************/chen-mei-cai-wei-ziyou
How their identities were found:
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Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io#598 offers a good analysis
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https://gist.github.com/chinatimeline/5386a4f9d82483aa5346b17d8d324877 comments by chinatimeline (**时间线) and gives further opsec guidelines
Terrible opsec… they used real name GitHub emails on early commits, including the institutional university address, before they started better opsec under https://github.com/TerminusBot / terminus2049@protonmail.com
https://github.com/thphd/2047 is a project to restore terminus, live at https://2047.name Ciro mention at: https://2047.name/e/76182458 by https://2047.name/u/5155 which is similar to a [mohu] mention, so they seem to share the database? Who knows what’s the relation between all those [pincong] lookalikes. TODO that website shows an [icp-license]? Very confusingly also mirrored at https://pincong.org e.g. https://pincong.org/t/10219/https://2047.name/t/10219[], which is very similar to [pincong]'s address. Related account: https://github.com/PincongBot
https://2047.name has a links section at: https://2047.name/links shown on the sideboard, containg links of interest. Some all not are very China specific.
https://2047.name/register registration requires an invitation code.
https://github.com/2049bbs/2049bbs.github.io / https://2049bbs.github.io/ maintains another archive up to 2019-03-03.
Explores several sensitive topics through interesting timelines with many pictures, for example:
Some minor relationships with Terminus2049 (端点星计划, 2049bbs):
Anonymous user with automation setup such that anyone can request certain webpages to be copied on to GitHub anonymously through a separate website, notably:
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https://github.com/duty-machine/duty-machine: big Chinese social media, e.g. [weibo], Zhihu (知乎, censored Quora clone, 审查 Quora 克隆), Douban. Articles stored in issues. Archive requests: https://archives.duty-machine.now.sh/
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https://github.com/duty-machine/news: big Western news websites like Reuters, BBC, etc. Articles stored in-tree.
The project claims to have been inspired by Terminus2049 (端点星计划, 2049bbs), but hopefully they will have better operational security.
Unfortunately, it was found that the project could be used by malicious users to at mention spam GitHub users: #192, let’s see if they patch it. Edit: the did.
https://github.com/duty-machine/duty-machine/tree/d6ee9ff8e504b863352f163f7e143e84161ac349 explains that the automatic submission had to be taken down because [wumao] uploaded porn which is against GitHub’s content policy.
Related idiotic attempt on China ************ (******) project: https://github.com/************/china-************/issues/500 where user crazy3523 uploaded some of Ciro’s own existing anti-China images, and tried to pretend to be anti-CCP, and slipped a few child porn softcore in the middle hoping Ciro wouldn’t see them. Their email was <crazy3523@protonmail.com>. They even went as far as creating another apparently anti-CCP post at: #386 previously.
This likely led the repository to be added to GitHub "This repository may contain objectionable content" (此仓库可能包含令人反感的内容).
This highlights the following ideas:
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it is impossible to have uncurated anyonymous content on GitHub
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censorship of non-political issues can seep into censorship of political issues
A few accounts were created by this pseudonym, e.g.:
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https://github.com/zaohmeing/21-: https://github.com/zaohmeing/21-/blob/master/.gitignore
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https://github.com/zhaohmng/-21-: https://github.com/zhaohmng/-21-/blob/master/%231a.txt The repository was deleted as of March 2021, TODO why?
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Ciro’s fork: https://github.com/************/-21-
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archive from December 2020: https://web.archive.org/web/20201225094655/https://github.com/zhaohmng/-21-
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Much more sanely encoded/formatted/rendered versions of the articles can be found at:
Both Zhao Heming repos contain reproductions of two manifestos are pasted together on a single file, and somewhat broken encoding.
Ciro noticed that thoe repos attracted an incredible ammount of [wumao] on the comments, despite having very simple copy pasted content, it was very impressive!!! Ciro was jealous, and added some anti-wumao comments in. On commits:
zhaohmng/-21-#416 (comment) "为什么这个屎一样的东西会出现在我个人主页左侧的repositories中，那里不是应该只有自己的项目才会出现吗？有办法屏蔽它吗？还是github故意的？" explains why so many people come comment in the repository: it is because it appears on the "Explore repositories" repository suggestions which show on the side bar of your GitHub homepage, and on searches. This was also mentioned at: #201 originally titled " 一搜索中文就跑出这屌鬼玩意，爱玩政治去竞选总统啊，笨，死扑街". Ciro feels that that Chinese people might use GitHub search much more than Western people because their search engines are shit due to [censorship], Censorship makes countries poorer (审查使国家更穷) comes vibrantly to mind.
After further inspection, taught understood that repository descriptions given to GitHub can be really huge for SEO: they had pasted the entire 21st century text there.
So Ciro attempted the same approach, and pasted all of https://github.com/************/china-************/blob/master/赫连禾-21世纪新政宣言.md, https://github.com/************/china-************/blob/master/郝雪森-三朝罪恶元凶王沪宁.adoc and https://github.com/************/china-************/blob/master/魏京生-第五个现代化.md in there on 2021-03-23, and the effect was dramatic: an immediate 4x more views on the following day according to https://github.com/************/china-************/graphs/traffic (40 unique visitors to 100 on a Wednesday), and a few wumao comments. And a wumao soon confirmed that it was working directly: #201.
Ciro believes that this is due to two reasons:
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there aren’t so many good Chinese repositories to compete with
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perhaps more importantly, Chinese language does not have spaces, which makes implementing search for it more difficult, because if you hit all the characters, even if they are not part of the search words, it also gets counted as a hit
This can be automated with: description.sh.
Further optimizations using description by using GitHub-Chinese-Top-Charts (GitHub中文排行榜):
git clone https://github.com/kon9chunkit/GitHub-Chinese-Top-Charts ./description
this does some processing to increase density creates a BOMB:
As of late 2022, Ciro noticed that GitHub had limited maximum repository description lengths to something way way smaller like 512 characters. Ciro’s old descriptions were kept, but they cannot be edited anymore unless reduced to 512 characters. So they will likely remain unchanged forever now.
Ciro started using that one instead to see if it was going to be more effective on 2021-03-28. First it hit a peak of 168 visitors on Monday 2021-03-29, and then fell back to 90 and 81 on the following days, so similar to the previous Chinese political input. It is very hard to understand why the first day was so different.
It also includes:
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https://github.com/trending?since=monthly&spoken_language_code=zh trending Chinese repositories
A large part of those projects falls in the following categories:
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interview preparation. Competition is of course cutthroat with such a large population.
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collections of interesting things Chinese like repositories or blog posts
but it also does feel like China might be building up more basic infrastructure as open source than in the west, where things developped closed source first on pre-Internet days, and somewhat stayed that way. That’s a cool thing about China.
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Furthermore, Ciro later noticed that under GitHub’s settings, there is a "Preferred spoken language" box described as "We’ll use this language preference to filter the trending repository lists on Explore and our Trending Repositories page." Therefore, the secret to get lots of hits is to add Chinese programming keywords to the repository description string.
New issues:
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zhaohmng/-21-#533 "Thank you for this great repository. Human rights and freedom of speech are more important than money. github.com/************/china-************"
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zaohmeing/21-#138 "Why put the censored content in the .gitignore?"
On top commented/liked issues:
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zhaohmng/-21-#325 (comment) "看你发的“美中”而不是“中美”我就知道你TM是轮子" claims they are [falun-gong]
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zhaohmng/-21-#346 (comment) "那么问题来了,为什么美国及西方和越南共产党亲近呢?" the US allies with Vietnam Communists for geopolitical reasons only, not because it has any ideology
The first is "21世纪新政宣言" (New System Declaration for the 21st Century).
It proposes a peaceful reunification of China with Taiwan (Republic of China, **, 中華民國) under their specified political system described in 12 paragraphs. This system is a reformed type of Western democracy, which the manifesto also criticize downsides of.
The manifesto is dated drafted 2019.8.6, and several versions have different update dates and revision numbers, e.g. our copy is dated 7th edition of 2020.6.19. TODO what is canonical?
The manifesto provides an email "wanghunn@gmx.com" for those who signed it to send the signed version to, and describes the author as male 70 years old Chinese person.
TODO what does: "起草人：赫连禾" mean?
The second is [the-culprit-of-three-dynasties].
The title presumably refers to [wang-huning].
Wikipedia mentions:
Wang is believed to have been one of the principal architects behind the official political ideologies of three paramount leaders: "Three Represents" by Jiang Zemin, the Scientific Development Concept by Hu Jintao, and the Chinese Dream and [xi-jinping-thought] of Xi Jinping.
so it must be about him.
The manifesto is divided into 23 numbered headers which appear to be independently published texts later collected. It is signed by 郝雪森 (Hao Xuesen) 2016-09-10. One of the sections gives the email: haoxuesen@gmx.com[].
Others:
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2023-10-13 https://www.reddit.com/r/github/comments/176u3m7/help_needed_something_have_troubled_me_and_other/
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2023-03-28 https://www.reddit.com/r/github/comments/124t4gk/how_i_can_always_exclude_a_repository_from_my/ by reddit user yusuftaufiq. Possible hit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yousuf-taufiq-pe-pmp-0b198212/ Yousuf Taufiq.
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2022-12-13 https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/41475 "Report Abuse REPO" by https://github.com/dugulingping
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2022-08-26 https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/30936 "github search provide strange result" by https://github.com/pmakarenko "github search provide strange result"
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2022-06-18 community/community#18862 by https://github.com/LyLme
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2022-04-25 community/community#15534 "Report spam" by https://github.com/ryuujo1573.
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2022-03-14 https://91ai.net/thread-983734-1-1.html 真是遇了狗了搜播放器 搜到个狗 One of the comments suggests that the sponsors are a considerable ammount. Poor newbie, Ciro’s sponsors are 20 dollars/month as of writing in 2022. Related: [ccp-apologists].
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2022-03-14 https://github.com/community/community/discussions/12800, previously: https://github.com/github/feedback/discussions/12800 "Polluted search results" by ThebestkillerTBK
In March 2021, this repo had a traffic search spike for: "Search · 联级选择器"
This term refers to https://ant.design/components/cascader-cn/ which seems to be a CSS live selector
The related project: https://github.com/ant-design/ant-design-pro
Someone actually used wumao techniques mentioned at:
to attack that repo:
TODO which exact GitHub action did they rely on? That repo currently has a https://github.com/ant-design/ant-design-pro/actions/workflows/issue-open-check.yml Issue Open Check GitHub action sample run: https://github.com/ant-design/ant-design-pro/runs/2209272410?check_suite_focus=true we see the similarity issue analysis thing, but how could that have worked more precisely to link across repos? Asked at: #203
In other sections:
Not in other setions:
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https://github.com/yangxiangquan/fuhaisun contains some evil west issues: https://github.com/yangxiangquan/fuhaisun/issues
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https://github.com/CNBlackListR/white-book "Our CNBlackListR battle report on reporting illegal over-the-wall anti-China reactionaries". They then go on to document how they reported some dude online which made him go to jail. TODO identify the case. Twitter account handle: "刁民" (Diao Min, awful people)
Defendant Yang XX (杨 ), male, born on July 28, 1995, Han nationality, with a bachelor’s degree, is a lawyer assistant at Beijing Yingke (Guangzhou) Law Firm. He was detained on October 1, 2019 on suspicion of picking quarrels and provoking trouble in this case, and was criminally detained on the same day, and arrested on October 15, 2019.
Related:
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https://github.com/wumaoland from Ciro Santilli’s reply policy (***的回答政策)
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https://github.com/SBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSB followed Ciro, coon after #671
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Ciro Santilli spoof accounts:
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https://github.com/************father, e.g. programthink/books#94 at (archive)
On 2021-09-23 Ciro Santilli received this email from ************father@protonmail.com "Hello son: I like your wife very much, can you let her have a one-night stand with me?". https://github.com/************father had been deleted at that point.
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https://github.com/cirowayne (e.g. archive) possible new account
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https://github.com/AlstonScott programthink/zhao#428 was using Ciro’s profile picture: https://archive.ph/K59TN
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https://github.com/Ciro-Santilli-NMSL 我在你爸坟头骨灰拌饭 https://archive.ph/5iVR2
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https://github.com/wumaoland/MaoZeDongAnthology of our great ex-leader, [mao-zedong]!
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https://github.com/gege-circle/home 戈戈圈 TODO there were some backlinks from there, and they seemed to have some wumaos, but haven’t full understood what they are yet. They seem to be some anime nerds, so maybe related to VTubers?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/gege_circle/
Their README reads:
Please consciously abide by the laws of the People’s Republic of China. This project restricts the discussion of political content and prohibits the publication of illegal information. If such discussions are found to be gradually deviating from the topic and leading to purely political content, the moderator will first warn them, and then start punishing them if they do not listen.
OK, the home project is an auto-archiver, much like duty-machine GitHub account (责任机器GitHub用户), but non anonymous, e.g.:
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https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/mv10yp3LfgC9ibj_MbWarQ
But that’s not all it is/was, e.g.:
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https://web.archive.org/web/20210407073739if_/https://github.com/gege-circle/home/issues/271#issuecomment-809275700 from #157 has some discussion
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2023-07 saadeghi/daisyui#2150 remove taiwan flag by 92hackers
The attack: Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击).
This would then end [censorship].
And then Ciro believes that this would also end the ************.
The keyword attacks increase the cost of censorship.
If commies censor things, they will get worse IT technology, and thus become less rich and militarily powerful.
Since all they care about, like any other politicians, is power, the only way to make them stop censorship is to make the cost of censorship higher than not censoring.
Without the threat that China will be less technologically, and therefore militarily advanced, there is no incentive for the CCP to destroy the firewall.
The goal is to put them in a position where they have to choose between either:
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having military power
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remaining a ************
but not both, since having both means that they will start WW3 and destroy humanity.
And if they decide to destroy the ************, Ciro wants to help China become the most awesome country on Earth.
Closely related/identical ideas are Cute cat theory of digital activism (可爱猫理论) and Collateral Freedom (依附的自由).
Related attack: Photobombing-like attacks.
No.
This is not a revenge of any kind.
Ciro knows that he is harming you in the short term, and he doesn’t like that.
But he believes that this harm is a necessary means to reach his real goal, which is to destroy the firewall, and the ************.
Don’t you think it is worth a try? Destroying the firewall, would enormously benefit not only Chinese programmers, but every single other Chinese person too.
Once the firewall is destroyed, which may destroy the ************, he want China to develop the best science and technology in the world, and Would Ciro Santilli like to live in China? (***想住在**吗？).
And by the way, with his extensive contributions to open source software, Ciro is already helping China, and all underdeveloped countries, to become stronger. His hope is that if poor countries become richer and better educated, that they will be less likely to be influenced by the CCP’s money, and therefore are more likely to be allies of democracy.
No, the opposite.
Ciro only wants their dictatorial government to look bad to destroy it, and help China become the most awesome country on Earth.
Even the Chinese that are against their own Government cannot do much about it openly, so it is not their fault.
And even those who supported their ************ must be respected, whoever stupid and brainwashed you might think they are, since it is impossible to prove who is right or wrong in politics.
See also: About (关于).
Obviously not, if you even thought about this, it is likely because of: The CCP exaggerates the threat of the West to keep in power (**夸大了西方要继续掌权的威胁).
Don’t you see that this is just pure and simple politics? And likely ineffective one at that: Will the keyword attacks really help to destroy the firewall? (关键字攻击真的有助于破坏防火墙吗？).
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everyone is brainwashed by their environment: brainwashed
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it is impossible to prove who is right or wrong in politics: [democracy-is-a-religion]
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not even the CCP is evil: Is the Chinese government evil? (**共产党是邪恶的吗？)
Related:
A keyword consists of adding censored words to your username: https://stackoverflow.com/users/895245
This only works on websites that show usernames everywhere.
This then leads to your username appearing on thousands of pages, depending on how much you contribute to the website.
It is also possible to do it with images, although this is less effective in taking down websites since images are harder for the firewall to track automatically. But:
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they are more memorable than words
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they also work on websites like GitHub where your real name does not show on most pages, only slug
so maybe the most effective approach is to use both keywords and images to get the best of both worlds ;-)
This type of attack is essentially an Embargoes make ************s stronger (禁运使**更强大), and it is especially effective in websites that contain valuable technical content, such as Stack Overflow and GitHub.
See also:
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2021-06-03 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/03/free-hong-kong-road-budapest-renames-streets-to-frustrate-chinese-campus-plan "Free Hong Kong Road: Budapest renames streets to frustrate Chinese campus plan"
Some non-screen name ones: * https://tatoeba.org/en/sentences/show/6620655, that site is open source BTW, great initiative: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2
Some people say don’t shift where you eat. Ciro says: bring a shitbucket to the canteen, and start a shitfight.
Someone told Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) a while after he had started doing his Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击) on Stack Overflow, he didn’t know about it before, but it is basically what he was doing.
You can never invent anything new anymore nowadays!
This is especially relevant to GitHub! And GitHub’s mascot is also a cat ;-) Some mentions of this:
Related:
Blockchain technologies, such as Bitcoin, provide essentially uncensorable (at a transaction cost), because the messages are put together with financial transactions which are extremely valuable to its users.
As mentioned by Dan Kaminsky at: https://************.com/cool-data-embedded-in-the-bitcoin-blockchain/len-sassaman-tribute#video-black-ops-of-tcp-ip-by-dan-kaminsky-2011 this forms a type of Samizdat (Soviet underground propagation of censored materials, 秘密出版物, самиздат).
Services that can be used to easily view this data online include:
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http://bitfossil.org/ is a website that indexes especially formatted images uploaded to the blockchaian.
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https://bitcoinstrings.com/ dumps all ASCII printable strings of length 20 ore more online
We have been able to find the following anti-CCP information in the blockchain so far:
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2014: http://bitfossil.org/fe0dfa51337dfce616a0e0305d10eed867e56a9f0f006b0521ec1ea32851a342/index.htm is about the [hong-kong] 2014 protests. It contains text and images in the AtomSea & EMBII format. Part of the text is ripped from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-29421909 "Hong Kong democracy protesters defiant on National Day Tens of thousands of people have been blocking parts of the city for days."
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2017: blk00776.txt transaction 3845e630032578cb825d587b759eb499511d691f93962f4b9f5b2e06ef9570c7 says:
Tiananmen massacre ←-- I dare China to censor this.
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2017 1ca4f11131eca6b4d61daf707a470cfccd1ef3d80a6f8b70f1f07616b451ca64e from 2017 contains an image of [tank-man] encoded as standard transaction SHAs. The image is mentioned at: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/191157608/#q191162145 with indexer URL https://cryptograffiti.info/#ca4f11131eca6b4d61daf707a470cfccd1ef3d80a6f8b70f1f07616b451ca64e.jpg but that link is not working
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2017 blk00808.txt transaction 91b9b44532e094522e905012c04f207df1bcad8d9df7232679cb16859a008bdd (TODO why not visible at https://bitcoinstrings.com/blk00808.txt) contains a full text reproduction of: https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/06/01/china-tell-truth-about-tiananmen-anniversary "China: Tell the Truth About Tiananmen on Anniversary" from [human-rights-watch]. The text is preceeded by a Chinese version of the same.
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2021-01-18: tx 0072a67e116e7bec2ca36d9ab71e61bd3732f201c76ab04eb06dae7c3c6f8ab8:
source of humanity and the mother of truth dp
+ TODO meaning of "dp". Part of a quote by [liu-xiaobo] which was delivered in his Nobel Prize speech in absentia: https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2010/xiaobo/lecture/, fuller quote:
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Freedom of expression is the foundation of human rights, the source of humanity, and the mother of truth. To strangle freedom of speech is to trample on human rights, stifle humanity, and suppress truth.
But of course, there are crypto-[wumao]'s there too!!! The incongruence of a ************ and uncensorability is just mind blowing:
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2016 transaction 4921ae59b6ca89c2cd78e3d0850abd657f88a3ecc13c9c667872bf2740841dee, by a miner who earned 12 BTC:
South China Sea belongs to China-pc
Neutral references:
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blk01341.txt tx 3d2226aa2591acfb0d3c9206b9bb2058b0a488ad6d0e9c61e0c8f3c53d0d4b90 "EW Hello Xi Jingping" (mispelled). "EW" is a service identifier, not part of the message.
On the test blockchain (boring!):
Bibliography:
Other blockchains:
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2019-02-25 https://theconversation.com/chinese-internet-users-turn-to-the-blockchain-to-fight-against-government-censorship-111795 "Chinese internet users turn to the blockchain to fight against government censorship" mentions the insertion of the Yue Xin letter and [changsheng-bio-technology-vaccine-data-falsification-incident-2018] information in the Ethereum blockchain. This gives the transaction in the screenshot: https://www.scmp.com/abacus/culture/article/3028662/chinas-netizens-use-blockchain-spread-censored-news
[greatfire] people called a Cute cat theory of digital activism (可爱猫理论)-related project of theirs "Collateral Freedom" (a reference to collateral damage), in which they seem to be trying to forward censored websites somehow through AWS to force the Chinese Government to block the entire AWS in China:
Collateral Freedom ties access to information to the Chinese economy. If [authorities] truly want to block access to this information, then they must give up certain access to economic freedoms.
At some point the Wikipedia page was created, but the concept was largely publicized by Greatfire most likely, although it might have been older. It is also not obvious that it satisfiers notability requirements of Wikipedia as of 2021.
2015 coverage: https://techcrunch.com/2015/03/30/greatfire/
There’s an useless Wiki page for that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collateral_freedom
https://www.theregister.com/2019/05/10/amazon_backtracks_on_s3/ clarifies that on Amazon S3 the question is about:
the second of which can be easily blocked by domain, but the first can’t, and how amazon was planning on killing the first option.
Notably our Software package mirrors (软件包管理器镜像):
Normally, the term "dual-use technology" is used in the context of blocking exports that can be used either for peace, but also for war.
However, as mentioned by a Twitter friend, a Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击) for Freedom of Speech is also essentially a dual-use matter.
5.2. Politics should not be posted in technical websites such as GitHub or Stack Overflow 不应该在技术网站例如Stack Overflow和GitHub讨论政治
So, where do you propose politics be posted? On Facebook or Twitter, which are already blocked by the [gfw]? Or maybe on [weibo], where it will be taken down within seconds due to internal censorship?
Is the Chinese government using the Internet the way it was meant to be used, by investing billions in [censorship]?
What about [nine-nine-six-icu]? Did you also complain about it, or did you just star it like 250k of your fellow programmers?
Any act of protest will use things in ways that it was not meant to be used.
For example, the street is not meant to showcase protest banners, it is meant to be a passageway for cars.
As engineers, we have a moral responsibility towards society. We should not blindly follow orders of those in power if it violates our principles, e.g. build weapons or censorship mechanisms. And we should freely express our principles and violation concerns.
Making a statement where no one will ever see it, like a personal website, is sure to have no effect.
Much of the best art and technology is about using something in a way that it wasn’t meant to be used.
Finally, the political powers of each website decide what is allowed or not on their website, and what is not allowed gets blocked. So far, Stack Overflow and GitHub’s Terms of Service have said to go ahead:
Another consideration is that any profile information is essentially a form of advertisement. Some people advertise their skills for hire, or their company and product. Other people, advertise their religion or sexual orientation. So why should you not be able to advertise your political position? Companies pay millions of dollars to grab other people’s attention. Ciro feels it is much fairer to instead pay for those ads with your labour of love.
[programthink] has, of course, a beautiful reply to this at https://github.com/programthink/zhao/tree/e8eea46424549c11792dfe61cf9e7698bdbd7240#致反对此项目的墙内程序员:
致"反对此项目的墙内程序员"
本项目上线第二天，就收获 363 个 star 兼 88 个 fork，甚至还挤进 GitHub 的"当日 Trending"——俺很荣幸，也很高兴有这么多人给俺捧场。
但是在本项目的 issue 列表中也看到好几个反对此项目的程序员（应该都来自墙内），他们担心这个项目导致 GitHub 被 GFW 封杀。
这几年来，类似的言论俺已经看了不少。就好比强盗拿刀杀人，围观者不但没有谴责强盗，反而去谴责卖刀的店家——这就是传说中的"斯德哥尔摩综合症"。
有兴趣的同学，可以看俺之前的博文——《天朝民众的心理分析：斯德哥尔摩综合症》
Translation:
In reply to: "Programmers behind the GFW who are against this project"
The second day after the project went online, it got 363 stars and 88 forks, and even squeezed into GitHub’s "Trending repositories of the Day". I am honored and I am so happy that so many people gave me their support.
However, in the issue list of this project, I also saw several programmers who opposed this project (likely all from within the GFW), and they worried that this project would cause GitHub to be blocked by GFW.
Over the past few years, I have read a lot of similar comments. A good comparison would be if a robber were killing someone with a knife, and the onlookers not only did not condemn the robber, but instead condemned the shop that sold the knife. This is the legendary "Stockholm syndrome".
Interested people can read my previous blog post: "Psychological Analysis of the People of the Heavenly Dynasty: Stockholm Syndrome".
The more places we can denounce dictators, the better people are off, the minor annoyance to sensitive people is worth it. Ciro wrote a poem:
Don’t discuss politics on Stack Overflow.
Don’t discuss politics on GitHub.
Don’t discuss politics on YouTube.
Don’t discuss politics on Facebook.
Don’t discuss politics on Twitter.
Don’t discuss politics.
Don’t discuss.
Don’t.
.
Infinite duplicate pool:
5.2.1. Is Ciro Santilli making programming contributions with the main intent of promoting his political agenda?
No, that is just a side effect.
For example, if that were the case, he would definitely target more widely used technologies, in particular Web and JavaScript, instead of obscure things like C and assembly in which I have spent tons of my time.
Also, any attempt to influence a billin people is unlikely to have any effect. Much more likely to have any effect, would be for Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) to become rich and powerful first, and the best way to do that is to invest in whatever he thinks is most useful.
Actually, it can even be argued that Ciro’s somewhat irrational, since he would be much more likely to become rich and powerful by bowing down to the CCP and trying to get their money instead.
On the other hand, becoming rich and powerful is also highly unlikely, so maybe it’s justa matter of taking a low-risk low-reward path?
Ciro has have very little free time, and he will never do something for political reasons, only things that interest me technically.
Finally, do you really think he’d be able to do such awesome projects if he had primarily political considerations in mind? XD
No.
I just think that the website is great, and want to push it to perfection, in particular with better Google keyword hits, and uniform grammatically correct titles.
If you think that any of my edits were harmful, please ping me and open a meta thread to discuss specific edits, and I will comply with consensus.
Earliest sources found so far are from Reddit:
English text:
Stop interfering in China’s internal affairs Bread
Chinese text:
**人不吃这一套
美国没有资格
居高临下同**说话
巧克力酱面包
保质期10天
Translation:
The Chinese people don’t eat this trick
The United States is not qualified to
Take the high ground and look down on China
Chocolate sauce bread
Best before: 10 days
https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/o2qyu5/china_has_a_brand_of_bread_named_stop_interfering/h2838jz mentions that this was something that came from the 2021 US-China Alaska summit
Here is a different picture of the same product from April 14th: https://twitter.com/YukayuyuWasGod/status/1382218316895244295 That one might allow better brand identification: 万X福 That one also posted at: https://www.reddit.com/r/China_irl/comments/o2zbsw/偶然看到这张图不知道是不是真的/ Watermarked Weibo @第三豹弹
Because it would make China, and the world:
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less likely to get into WW3
Democracy is even one of the [core-socialist-values]!
There is infinite debate about this out there, some examples:
For:
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************s are more likely to start Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (为什么**和言论自由会让**不太可能发动战争？) or other crazy policies like the Great Leap Forward, which completely destroy the economy in one go
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society becomes richer when people know that they can do their startups, get rich, and stay in the country without fear of being persecuted unfairly and losing everything instead of migrating to Canada, see also: [rule-of-law], [jack-mas-disappearance-2021]
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it is much harder to fix problems if you can’t talk about the. Any criticism of the government, even if constructive, is taken as menace to power, and more likely to be shut down, which makes the government and just becomes less efficient since there is less feedback.
This greatly increase the probability of dealing poorly with such problems, see e.g. all the global problems listed at: Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (外国人不应该干预**政治).
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governments are monopolies, and the more powerful they are, the worst it is for competition an efficiency in general. E.g.: the startup with better government ties wins, instead of the most efficient one.
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people in ************s tend to hide their true identities online and in life in general. It is best not to stand out, because if you make any mistake, you are really fucked. As a result, for example, if you do something awesome like a creating an open source project, but do it anonymously, you won’t get as much fame. And therefore everyone does less of such awesome things on average.
Against:
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presidents only care about the 4-8 year horizon, while dictators can make longer term decisions to maintain power forever, their power being limited only by "the people are happy enough to not start a revolution"
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************s can make changes faster without the same amount of discussion that happens in democracies, where power is more spread out.
Killing a million people will make us richer? No problem, let’s do it.
That is great when they make good decisions, but it sucks when they make bad ones more likely.
Maybe China was poor because of Mao’s crazy communist regime. Similar regimes also made [russia] poor. And yes, before that exploitation by the West may have been a factor.
Definitely, the current regime is better than Mao’s, but just imagine how rich China could be if it had more freedom and justice.
Imperial China lost the race for the Industrial Revolution. Will another ************ be able to stay on top of the next technological revolution?
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) really likes Posners' way of putting it:
While average rate of growth do not appear to differ much between democracies and authoritarian regimes, the variability in performance does differ more among authoritarian governments. China has had remarkable growth since the 1980s, but the prolonged devastation and hardship produced by China’s "[great-leap-forward]" (when millions of farmers starved to death) and its Cultural Revolution would unlikely have occurred in a democratic country like say India. Nor is it likely that say Cuba and many African nations would have suffered so long with such terrible economic policies if they had reasonably democratic institutions.
************s need [censorship] to survive, and they must control all information to make themselves always look good: [dictator-needs-gfw].
As a result, knowledge of problems flows more slowly, and therefore they also take longer to solve.
Maybe this hurts the argument, but Hillary agrees: :-)
But countries that restrict free access to information or violate the basic rights of internet users risk walling themselves off from the progress of the next century
Also mentioned at: Google versus China - VPRO documentary - 2011
This is also the basis of a Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击).
This suggestion is even more explicit in the fictional World War Z 2006 novel by Max Brooks about a virus outbreak in China. It was later adapted into the World War Z (2013) movie by Paramount:
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https://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/jun/04/brad-pitt-china-world-war-z: Paramount cowards tried to kowtow and remove references to China from the movie, but it failed
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/china-barred-my-dystopian-novel-about-how-its-system-enables-epidemics/2020/02/27/cc0446f0-58e5-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.html: no Chinese publisher dared publish the book unless China references were removed, which the author declined, and so the book was not published in China
Or if you prefer:
The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic.
Amartya Sen is another famous proponent of similar arguments in the area of hungers: https://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/211/44284.html (archive)
In democratic countries, even very poor ones, the survival of the ruling government would be threatened by famine, since elections are not easy to win after famines; nor is it easy to withstand criticism of opposition parties and newspapers. That is why famine does not occur in democratic countries. Unfortunately, there are a great many countries in the world which do not yet have democratic systems.
although like any other political argument, some disagree.
Virus outbreaks and other natural disasters also illustrate this well: Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查).
Bibliography:
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https://www.uow.edu.au/the-stand/2019/chernobyl-a-lesson-in-truth.php Chernobyl: a lesson in truth Secrets were kept, mistakes were made, and people were exposed
Suggests that part of the reason why Chernobyl happened is because of the Soviet Union’s obsession to save face, and illustrates well how Censorship makes countries poorer (审查使国家更穷).
The URSS only admitted Chernobyl three days after when Swedish nuclear plant radiation detector alarms started going off.
Notably, in order to keep it secret, they for example did not cancel the International Workers' Day parade in Kharkov, Ukraine which happened five days after the disaster. Related: [different-levels-of-truth].
Related:
Who would trust a government that does not trust its own journalists and citizens?
Even democracies cannot be trusted, but ************s? No one ever believes what they say, even when it’s true.
The boy just called wolf far too many times.
And as a result, this makes it very difficult to have allies.
Sure, other ************s will seem to become allies with your ************ and collaborate.
But deep down, you know that they are all just waiting patiently to put a knife in one other’s backs.
Dictators will always live in fear.
The Chinese Government censored the initial outbreak in January and did not inform Wuhan on January 8, which likely made the situation much worse than what it could have been.
On the other hand, one may argue that the "city closure" measures were stronger/faster than in democracies, and maybe that is true.
And Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) does believe that the virus would have escaped even if there had been no censorship. Although maybe thousands of lives would have been saved due to smaller saturation of hospitals had a proper early warning been given.
So Ciro’s main criticism is that of the censorship of citizen reports the event: People arrested for reporting on the 2019 Corona Virus (因报道 2019 年冠状病毒而被捕的人). Why do you need to censor things when you are doing so well?
And it should also be said that some Western politicians have used "blame China" as an excuse to divert attention from their own failures.
Some believe that the Chinese government grossly under-reported death counts. Initial official figures were about only 3300 deaths, in the insanely densely populated Wuhan area, while Italy had reached 10000 deaths:
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2022-04 https://www.voanews.com/a/china-censors-national-anthem-lyrics-used-as-lockdown-protest-/6539716.html China Censors [national-anthem] Lyrics Used as Lockdown Protest on [voa]
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2020-04-19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr280LWjJT0&t=2198 Trump says on a White House briefing he does not believe China’s case count
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2020-04-01 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-01/china-concealed-extent-of-virus-outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says CIA speaks
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2020-03-29 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8165717/Locals-Wuhan-believe-42-000-people-died-coronavirus.html Reports of funerary urns sold
Maybe China is saying the truth this time. Maybe the rapid ************ response worked. But maybe the most important lesson to take out of this is that no one trusts in a ************ after an infinitely long history of lies and lack of freedom of the press.
[li-hongzhi] of course doubts those numbers :-) [falun-gongs-view-of-epidemics].
Good timelines so without a fucking paywall:
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https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html "Timeline: The early days of China’s coronavirus outbreak and cover-up"
Timeline:
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2019-12-27 several genomics companies had sequenced the coronavirus and noticed the similarity to Sars. According to GeneBank, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MT019529 the sample was collected on and 23-Dec-2019 and published on 04-FEB-2020
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2020-01-01 [cctv] announces that posting about it online is a crime: https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/ko18aa/on_this_day_one_year_ago_cctv_first_reported_on/
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2020-01-03 findings were sent to the Centre for Disease Control (CDC, **疾病预防控制中心) in Beijing, but then the Chinese National Health Commission (中华人民共和国国家卫生健康委员会), China’s top medical authority, issued orders to not talk about it and destroy samples
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2020-01-08 CDC team went to Wuhan to see the situation, was not informed that contagiousness of the disease had been confirmed
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2020-01-20 the findings were made public, in an interview with Zhong Nanshan. He later said in an interview that the local government should be blamed:
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2020-01-23 Wuhan begins lockdown
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2020-01-24 to 30 Chinese New Year
News coverage:
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2021-03-04 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/china-makes-anal-swab-covid-tests-compulsory-for-foreign-arrivals-mvthjq8c7 "China makes anal swab Covid tests compulsory for foreign arrivals". This is not a criticism to China as the test might be accurate. But it is one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard.
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2020-12-20 https://www.propublica.org/article/leaked-documents-show-how-chinas-army-of-paid-internet-trolls-helped-censor-the-coronavirus "Leaked Documents Show How China’s Army of Paid Internet Trolls Helped Censor the Coronavirus" talks about [wumao] working during COVID
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2020-05-12: https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-cia-believes-china-tried-stop-who-alarm-pandemic-1503565 CIA people said China stopped the WHO from sounding the alarm from January 24 to January 30, while at the same time stockpiling protection materials
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[caixin] article about how early Coronavirus signs were censored:
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https://china.caixin.com/2020-03-10/101526309.html (archive) "李文亮所在医院为何医护人员伤亡惨重？" (Why did Li Wenliang’s [李文亮] hospital suffer heavy casualties?)
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https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-29/in-depth-how-early-signs-of-a-sars-like-virus-were-spotted-spread-and-throttled-101521745.html (paywall) "In Depth: How Early Signs of a SARS-Like Virus Were Spotted, Spread, and Throttled"
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chinese-scientists-destroyed-proof-of-virus-in-december-rz055qjnj "Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December". Paywall skip: https://archive.md/xOKiu Terrible copy paste of some Caixin article with no sources/precise names.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/china-information-crackdown-on-wuhan-coronavirus-2020-1 "China spent the crucial first days of the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak arresting people who posted about it online and threatening journalists" (archive)
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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g5xykx/you-can-now-go-to-jail-in-china-for-criticizing-beijings-coronavirus-response "You Can Now Go to Jail in China for Criticizing Beijing’s Coronavirus Response"
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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qjdn4d/doctors-in-wuhan-are-still-dying-and-beijing-is-still-trying-to-silence-them Ai Fen’s (艾芬) report of how the situation was mishandling was censored
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2020-04-13 https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/12/asia/china-coronavirus-research-restrictions-intl-hnk/index.html "Beijing tightens grip over coronavirus research, amid US-China row on virus origin". The Government can now veto papers from being published on the subject of the origin of COVID-19.
In other countries:
People were getting really fed up by that one:
5.3.2.3.2. Sitong Bridge protest (北京四通桥抗议, 2022, 彭立发, Peng Lifa, Peng Zaizhou, 彭载舟, Warrior of Sitong Bridge, 四通桥勇士)
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#1060 contains videos
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Reddit threads:
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[rfa] https://www.rfa.org/mandarin/Xinwen/wulb-10132022033345.html
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https://twitter.com/jajia/status/1580434183209771008 gives the location. "The intersection of Zhongguancun Street and North Third Ring Road." 中關村大街和北三環交叉口。如圖
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https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/y57og2/the_brave_man_who_put_up_the_banner_on_the/ possible identity, not very well confirmed: https://twitter.com/lifa_petter
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/07/briefing/china-protest-peng-lifa.html
Peng Lifa is the real name, and Peng Zaizhou the pen name. TODO two twitter accounts on NYT.
不要核酸要吃饭
不要封城要自由
不要谎言要尊严
不要**要改革
不要领袖要选票
不做奴隶做公民
No covid test, but food!
No lockdown, but freedom!
No lies, but dignity!
No the Cultural Revolution, but reform!
No leaders, but votes!
No slave, but citizen!罢免**国贼***
Remove the dictatorial state traitor Xi Jinping!
And the dude had a loudspeaker too, he was not planning to flee at all:
要吃饭，要自由，要选票！罢课，罢工，罢免**国贼***！
Demand food, freedom, ballot! Students, workers, strike and depose the despotic traitor Xi Jinping!
Some Reddits:
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with Winnie the Pooh:
Key part of speech, transcript copied from this [epoch-times] page: https://test.qycz.org/a/202212/n16293244/web/
我一直非常愤怒的一点是，为什么我们说一句实话……我这两天，我在微信、我在抖音，我都在发，但是我所有的朋友都来劝我说‘小心’，‘小心被抓进去，这一抓就是要坐几年（牢）
He reported the virus, but was told by authorities to stay quiet, and later died from the virus, becoming somewhat of a martyr:
The following excerpt from his forced confession trended:
你能做到吗？
你听明白了吗？
Translation:
Can you manage?
Do you understand?
Popular GitHub repo documenting personal experiences and media reports:
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https://github.com/2019ncovmemory/nCovMemory "新冠肺炎记忆：报道、非虚构与个人叙述" 2020 New coronavirus pneumonia memories: reports, non-fictional and personal accounts.
Some of the creators of the repostory were arrested in 2020: https://qz.com/1846277/china-arrests-users-behind-github-coronavirus-memories-page/ and the repo must have been taken down at that time.
fork with the most stars we can find: https://github.com/dta0502/nCovMemory[], in case that goes down: https://github.com/************/nCovMemory * https://github.com/memoryhonest/nCovMemory-en translation project
Other interesting GitHub repositories: GitHub repositories with censored information (政治敏感的GitHub库).
Related:
Best montage: Eight people were punished.
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Twitter: https://twitter.com/chenqiushi404
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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv361SF6FKznoGPKEFG9Yhw
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/09/asia/wuhan-citizen-journalist-intl-hnk/index.html "Chen Qiushi spoke out about the Wuhan virus. Now his family and friends fear he’s been silenced"
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2020-04-18 https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/epgek4/he-traveled-to-wuhan-to-report-on-coronavirus-and-hasnt-been-heard-from-since "He Traveled to Wuhan to Report on Coronavirus – and Hasn’t Been Heard From Since"
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=Iwpr55PZEJ8 "Lawyer Chen Qiushi documenting coronavirus epicentre disappears" by [scmp]
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2021-09 they actually let him back online, e.g. https://mobile.twitter.com/chenqiushi404/status/1516189492595814401 anti [russo-ukrainian-war]
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2020-04-25: Chen Mei, Cai Wei and his girlfriend, who contributed to Terminus2049 (端点星计划, 2049bbs)
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2020-04-14: Zhang Zhan (张展)
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2020-11-16 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/16/citizen-journalist-facing-jail-in-china-for-wuhan-covid-reporting-zhang-zhan, finally accused of [picking-quarrels]
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2020-12-28 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/28/wuhan-citizen-journalist-jailed-for-four-years-in-chinas-christmas-crackdown "Wuhan Covid citizen journalist jailed for four years in China crackdown"
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TODO maybe not arrested but relevant:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/p2t243/police_travel_to_mans_house_and_force_him_to/ unconfirmed video: Police travel to man’s house and force him to delete his WeChat post about Covid-19 spreading in his area because the government won’t admit to any cases.
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Fang Fang (方方) published in 2020 Wuhan Diary (方方日記, 方方日记)
Possible free Chinese version: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGF5YWJvb2suY29tfHd3d3xneDo3ZGUzZWZjZDgyZDkxNjc0 (archive)
He was the second Chinese citizen journalist to vanish while reporting from coronavirus epicentre" by [scmp]
Hist last YouTube video simply shows the following caligraphed message with him reading it twice:
全民反抗
还政于民
方斌书
which translates as:
All the people, revolt.
Return the country (politics) to its people.
Written (calligraphed) by Fang Bin.
5.3.4. Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (为什么**和言论自由会让**不太可能发动战争？)
This has been discussed to death:
Some arguments include:
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the people who will actually fight and die on the front can’t vote against it
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dictators have huge power, so if they put it in their heads that they want to start a war, it is much harder for sensible people to stop them
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dictators need to keep the people in fear all the time to keep their power, and a war is a great way to achieve that
Of course China won’t say that they are starting a war when they do.
They will of course start with territories which they claim as theirs, to add to other recent additions which were not theirs until the recent past, even though their inhabitants desperately want to leave China:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_China–India_skirmishes | https://www.asiasentinel.com/p/beijing-said-to-fund-separatist-india "Beijing Said to Fund Separatist India Movement"
Which reminds us of… Comparisons between the CCP and Nazi Germany (纳粹德国和**长得很想):
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1939 Gleiwitz incident, a false flag attack
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1938 Annexation of Sudetenland from Czechoslovakia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_World_War_II explains:
A decisive proximate event was the 1938 Munich Conference, which formally approved Germany’s annexation of the Sudetenland from Czechoslovakia. Hitler promised it was his last territorial claim, but in early 1939 he became even more aggressive, and European governments finally realized that appeasement was not guaranteeing peace."
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1935-1938 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Causes_of_World_War_II&oldid=968409781#Expansionism_and_militarism comments:
In Italy, Benito Mussolini sought to create a New Roman Empire, based around the Mediterranean. It invaded Ethiopia as early as 1935, Albania in early 1938, and later Greece. That provoked angry words and an oil embargo from the League of Nations, which failed.
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1931 1931 Japanese invasion of Manchuria, with one false flag event preceding it: Mikden Incident.
When China calls the USA Imperialist (帝国主义), there is of course some truth to it, but it is also very ironic, because as Lindybeige mentions, China is obviously the largest empire on Earth! Despite its uniformization efforts, China is highly diverse since it is obviously made up of a large stitched up carpet of nations that were conquered by a single empire. E.g. Xinjiang (**) translates literally as "The New Frontier"! Not to mention obviously the unification of the [warring-states-period].
Bibliography:
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/06/14/xi-jinpings-approval-non-war-military-use-raises-fears-taiwan/ Xi Jinping signs directive allowing for 'non-war' uses of the military - a tactic similar to that used by Russia before it invaded Ukraine
5.3.4.1. The United States has recently started several wars and killed millions! (美国最近发动了几场战争，造成数百万人死亡！)
Not even democracies can fully protect people from other countries, because they don’t vote. Yes, congratulations, Western democracies are not perfect (西方的**有很多缺点).
But if the USA were a ************ like China it would kill way more, because it would censor every report against the war internally to its own people, and the wars would just go on like in [nineteen-eighty-four-war-is-peace].
How many times do we have to bring Hitler up? 70-85 million deaths in one go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
The only reason China has not started wars is because it is a poor country, and it would lose them. If it were rich, it would have started more wars and killed 100 times more people.
Finally, some wars are good.
If a country is oppressed by a ************, and most of its people want to be free, it might be right to help them be free.
If a country sponsors terrorism, it might be a good idea to take out their Government.
This has to be analyzed on a case-by-case basis, and maybe a verdict will never be reached. But at least in a democracy the people can decide based on varied information. In a ************, whatever the dictator decides happens.
Also, most of those small wars that he USA started end up being proxy wars between the USA and [russia]/China, with the USA pushing for democracy, and Russia/China pushing for more ************s.
5.3.5. The Chinese masses are still uneducated, and not fit for free speech and democracy **大众愚昧，不能好好选领导
When will they be ready? Who decides? What if they think that they are ready now?
In George Bernard Shaw’s "Maxims for Revolutionists" words:
Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many for appointment by the corrupt few.
Many democracy supporters jokingly recognize democracy’s shortcomings.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
Art Spander:
The great thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid.
Laurence J Peter:
Democracy is a process by which the people are free to choose the man who will get the blame.
5.3.5.1. The Chinese masses are not interested in politics and therefore not ready to vote (**群众对政治不感兴趣，因此不准备投票)
But how would they be interested in politics or be able to discuss it, if it is impossible to have a different view without going to jail? See also: Chilling effect (寒蝉效应).
What about the 1 million people in Tiananmen and the 70 million [falun-gong] followers? Did they not care?
Chinese political spectrum meme in English: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b8d4cd1a58c6c7eee88bad82b94f4e5c
This Internet slang refers to The Chinese masses are not interested in politics and therefore not ready to vote (**群众对政治不感兴趣，因此不准备投票) quite well: "吃瓜群众", the "Melon eater masses.",
Most people dare not comment, they just watch, knowing that any comment, in either direction, is a risk they take, with little likely benefit.
5.3.6. As long as China is developing economically, it is fine to violate the human rights of a few million people (只要经济好，我不在乎人权)
This argument can be made, but it is a risky way to live: Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities (大多数**人不关心少数民族).
Herman Goring actually justified the atrocities of Nazism in the exact same way during his appearance on the Nuremberg trials.
Do the ends always justify the means?
What is the point of having all that wealth, when you risk being put into jail for unfair reasons?
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) argues that China would be even richer if it weren’t for the CCP: Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (为什么**和言论自由能够让**变得更加富有？), and that the CCP only violates people’s human rights as a tool to stay in power: Is the Chinese government evil? (**共产党是邪恶的吗？).
One of the key points of Xi Jinping’s governments has been to quench corruption. And use that as an excuse to get rid of rivals while at it.
However, there is one much better solution to that: democracy and freedom of speech.
The reason is obvious: with censorship, corrupt politicians can censor anything bad that they did, and so it becomes much harder to destroy corruption.
In George Bernard Shaw’s "Maxims for Revolutionists" words:
Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many for appointment by the corrupt few.
Ciro does however believe the China spy stories (**间谍故事) claims made at https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/21/china-stolen-us-data-exposed-cia-operatives-spy-networks/ that the anti-corruption is also a legitimate national security issue for China, in addition to being a tool to take down political rivals:
Over the course of their investigation into the CIA’s China-based agent network, Chinese officials learned that the agency was secretly paying the "promotion fees" - in other words, the bribes - regularly required to rise up within the Chinese bureaucracy, according to four current and former officials. It was how the CIA got "disaffected people up in the ranks. But this was not done once, and wasn’t done just in the [Chinese military]," recalled a current Capitol Hill staffer. "Paying their bribes was an example of long-term thinking that was extraordinary for us," said a former senior counterintelligence official. "Recruiting foreign military officers is nearly impossible. It was a way to exploit the corruption to our advantage." At the time, "promotion fees" sometimes ran into the millions of dollars, according to a former senior CIA official: "It was quite amazing the level of corruption that was going on." The compensation sometimes included paying tuition and board for children studying at expensive foreign universities, according to another CIA officer.
https://youtu.be/8F0kSDV9U_E?t=408 Shocking Russian Military Corruption Exposed by Task & Purpose (2022) poses an interesting thesis: the toplevel of corrupt governments know about the corruption of officials and accept it. And this is in part to have leverage over them, to be able to bring them down whenever they feel like it. This incentivizes loyalty.
Well known corruption cases:
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2020 Ren Zhiqiang
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/22/asia/china-ren-zhiqiang-xi-jinping-intl-hnk/index.html "Chinese tycoon who criticized Xi Jinping's handling of coronavirus jailed for 18 years"
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2012 Ling Jihua (令计划): son died in Ferrari crash with two women on the car, which put the spotlight on him
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2012 [bo-xilai]: trigerred by the murder of Neil Heywood, of which Bo’s wife was accused
Related events:
Trying to prevent corruption is fine, but violating the laws of other countries in doing so, or the [rule-of-law] of their family is not.
Publicized by China itself: [china-daily] http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2015-11/05/content_22375920.htm
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2020-10-28 "Eight Individuals Charged With Conspiring to Act as Illegal Agents of the People’s Republic of China" https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/eight-individuals-charged-conspiring-act-illegal-agents-people-s-republic-china
China imposed an exit ban on the ex-official’s family, who are also USA citizens:
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officer Liu Changming (刘昌明)
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wife Sandra Han
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children Victor Liu (born July 1999 in the USA) and Cynthia Liu (27 in 2019, born in China, but also American citizen)
China says that the children and wife do have valid Chinese documents, so maybe those idiots did not give up their Chinese citizenship and went to China. Why, why, why would you do that? Don’t they know anything about China?
Cynthia claimed her father has left home a long time ago and that they are not in contact with their father.
Liu is a so called naked official (裸官), who let his family go live outside of China to prevent such problems with the CCP.
The wiki page also explains that in 2014 rules were added to prevent promotion of officials whose spouses live abroad.
This reminds Ciro of a Mafia movie, maybe Godfather II, where the bad guy says he "likes doing business with a man that has a family, because he has more collateral".
Coverage:
It is both unlikely, and hard to be sure.
Just like it is unlikely that the activity of on individual can have a big influence in any group of 1 billion people.
Every action is statistical: I just push the balance a little bit towards freedom.
This FAQ and any talk is useless. You and I are wasting our time here.
The possibility of blocking Stack Overflow and GitHub is 1000x more useful than any talk, but it is still useless.
However, potentially blocking those websites takes 0 of my time, I just leave the content there, so it is worth my time.
To have an idea, in 2015 there are about:
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20M developers in the world
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2M in China : https://www.quora.com/Approximately-how-many-programmers-are-there-in-the-world https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/european-technology/there-are-185-million-software-developers-in-the-world-but-which-country-has-the-most/
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5M Stack Overflow users https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/227868/select-count-from-users
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TODO I wonder what percentage of GDP those programmers control. I’ll bet any programmer on Stack Overflow is at least 20x more powerful than the average Chinese.
And if we never start somewhere, nothing will ever happen.
Furthermore, even if the GFW falls, it is not clear that this will imply the end of the ************: [dictator-needs-gfw].
Even if it is not, it does not matter, since Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) spends so little time doing it: Doesn’t Ciro Santilli have anything better to do than pissing off China? (除了反对**以外，***有没有别的更好的事儿要作吗？) and has fun in doing it.
The keyword attack is basically an embargo.
There is already a lot of literature about this, especially in the cases of Cuba and North Korea. It is basically a libertarian vs conservative/Cato vs Heritage thing in the US:
The key dilemma is:
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if we keep contact with the ************, maybe its people will see that democracy is better and start a liberating revolution
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if we keep giving technology to the ************ and it does not become a democracy, we are making a ************ more technologically advanced, and therefore dangerous
Some interesting aspects of the keyword attack embargo:
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it is immediately self-enforcing: we don’t need politicians to decide and enforce the complex "if you do this, we punish you like that" question.
By political and technological information is together, and this immediately puts the ************ in a bad spot, without us having to decide anything.
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by affecting programmers in particular through Stack Overflow and GitHub, we make them more likely to develop better Firewall climbing tools themselves
One point in favor of the embargo is that China has opened up since the '80s '90s, but did freedom improve at all? Under [xi-jinping], it may be argued that it did not, and maybe that we should just stop feeding them technology and accept that they won’t become free.
Trump’s 2019 China trade war, and in particular the [huawei] ban, is an event that has brought this question to the spotlight once again.
5.4.1.1. Keyword attacks could be used by certain CCP political groups to justify blocking off the entire external Internet, and make the ************ even more pervasive
It is a risk, but it would make China drastically less powerful, so at least they wouldn’t be able to start or sustain WW3. So I don’t think it will go that way.
5.4.2. Stack Overflow and GitHub could be blocked at no cost by the Chinese government (**政府可以免费封锁 Stack Overflow 和 GitHub)
Hitting the block button has, of course, no cost.
The cost of blocking Stack Overflow lies of course in the loss of information, and slower technological development, see also: Why attack websites with censored keywords? (用审查词攻击网站有什么用呢？)
The 2019 [nine-nine-six-icu] event however brought to my attention that Chinese (usually WebKit-based) browsers are already censoring HTTPS websites selectively of course, see e.g.: https://github.com/996browser/996.BROWSER/tree/77f28a36a862e3cc4d238dc47c19872156096bc4
But Ciro doubt developers use those browsers, right? The only way would be for China to forbid foreign browsers entirely.
BTW, [ensi] brings a whole new dimension to HTTPS by encrypting the domain name as well!
There was no clear evidence of that as of April 2020: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/267715/is-stack-overflow-accessible-in-china/288497#288497
It worth noting however that as mentioned at Is Stack Overflow blocked in China? (Stack Overflow 在**被封锁了吗？) that websites can become non-functional if CDNs they rely on are taken down, instead of the website being taken down itself.
For example, Stack Overflow relied on Google for some of its JavaScript and on Imgur for images, both of which are blocked in China.
But isn’t it better to be annoyed than having war, being poor or put into jail unfairly?
Another good option is to use the trusty [cac-report-website].
Installing any of those immediately give you 10 Sesame Points, 习**.
If the truth is too much for you to bear, worry not, you could use one of:
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Greasyfork browser extensions
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https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/32236-stackoverflow净化器 "StackOverflow净化器" (Stack Overflow cleanup)
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GitHub user with the same username: https://github.com/EternalPhane
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https://github.com/eternalphane/UserScripts repo with that source, and a related issue: eternalphane/UserScripts#4 by https://github.com/SiqingYu
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https://web.archive.org/web/20181211094917/https://greasyfork.org/en/forum/discussion/47981
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https://twitter.com/guangyang_li/status/1204880709636124672 dude admiring it: https://github.com/gyli
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2020-07-09 https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/406756-ciro-santilli "Ciro Santilli"
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https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/406756-ciro-santilli/discussions/53697
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Some possible authors (of course, with that name, there must be 10 thousand Chinese people at least):
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a custom ad terminator expression shown at: #87
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https://gist.github.com/chenx6/97d912a6ef623f5142f69f44b580c1a0 replaces Ciro’s username with "Ciro Santilli my mother died".
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#942 mentions ADGuard with rules:
github.com#?#li.repo-list-item.public.source:-abp-has(a:-abp-contains(************)) github.com#?#li.repo-list-item.public.source:-abp-has(a:-abp-contains(cheezcharmer)) github.com#?#li.repo-list-item.public.source:-abp-has(a:-abp-contains(zaohmeing)) github.com#?#li.repo-list-item.public.source:-abp-has(a:-abp-contains(zhaohmng-outlook-com)) github.com#?#li.repo-list-item.public.source:-abp-has(a:-abp-contains(Iorine)) github.com#?#li.repo-list-item.public.source:-abp-has(a:-abp-contains(jk-ice-cream)) github.com#?#li.repo-list-item.public.source:-abp-has(a:-abp-contains(anuragyantra))
which reference various forks of china-************: https://github.com/cheezcharmer/chinese-************ zaohmeing: Zhao Heming (召赫名) https://github.com/Iorine/china-************ https://github.com/jk-ice-cream. This one has some original content on profile: https://github.com/jk-ice-cream/jk.ice_cream_ apparently linked to [gay-rights] https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/473912-github搜索净化. Matching username of a GitHub user: https://github.com/danicastarr. * List: '************', 'wumaoland', 'codin-stuffs', 'cheezcharmer', 'gege-circle', 'zhaohmng-outlook-com', 'zaohmeing', 'Daravai1234', 'candice531033938', 'jk-ice-cream', 'jk-ice-cream-250', 'sky8964', 'pxvr-official', 'zpc1314521', 'jjzhang166', 'panbinibn', 'programthink', 'hello-world-1989', 'b0LBwZ7r5HOeh6CBMuQIhVu3-s-random-fork', 'thethetpvmy', 'wwwswitch520cc', 'shotoanqrob', 'sitempeanhkkwg', 'fukeluo', '1206256980', 'curees', 'yuoppo', 'Createree', 'vghl', 'wholedata', 'dunjian', 'mksshare', 'abshare', 'tpxdat', 'jhdyg', 'changfengqj', 'Dujltqzv', 'xmq1024', 'golade', 'kdjfhd', 'dkjhy', 'junsolg', 'dkjiiu', 'faithhow', 'yamtioy', 'zugzuc', 'lusvont', 'kenyatas', 'koeheu', 'juttama', 'duspub', 'wuqdid', 'visxud', 'suyfic', 'qokkod', 'roepuo', 'purfob', 'gitprocode', 'ynwynw', 'hanguodianying', 'hgyw', '69sm', 'urlapp', 'Augensternhx', 'urlweb', 'fuliso', 'nishjd', '36dshipin', 'hapump', 'zhguoxmw', 'KoreanMovies', 'hanjutv', 'mamadepengyou', 'mamatouyunmuxuan', 'erzideqizi', 'wodeqizidejiejie', 'xiaoyizidemeng', 'qingyuzongheng', 'jiangnanerxi', 'hanguobiaomei', 'djhgy', 'XXOOBY', 'baoyu1024', 'kk234kkkk', '15923-ORIX', 'wutaed', 'webzhibo', 'apptuijian', 'follow666', 'yu90892', 'aconteet', 'getmal', 'itxinfei', 'mingtiana', 'midoushipin', 'paofushipin', 'yinghanshipin', 'GTVapp', 'huangyouquan', 'devlookme', 'audwq', 'jhdgy', 'di6gandh', 'shuangyuzhibo', 'lvchazhibo', 'xiaolanshipin', 'bofangqi', 'yingtaoshipin', 'xiangfeizhibo', 'lvchaApp', 'luoshenzhibo', 'yaojizhibo', 'mudanzhibo', 'aiaizhibo', 'gaochaoqwe', 'jiolde', 'lsdhw', 'kanavdaohang', 'harnh', 'kuadaner', 'wapquan', 'laoyeer', 'reteres', 'haoersn', 'zhengjianzhong0107', 'huaaweiCode', 'jianjian00001', 'm2ak-dev', 'yyzwz', 'froginwe11', 'luanmenglei', 'xijinping0', 'cyqqq', 'qldaisd', 'lTbgykio', 'yao270161651', 'jt0008jt0008', '15625103741', 'sky1234566778', 'chfucao', 'chifuyidaocao', 'updrmeltm', 'alice548', 'yazm000', 'cpnorg', 'tffygbu', 'Liberty-China', '1989CCP', 'liulihaocai', 'RevolutionaryCommitteeCPC', 'LeiyanLu', 'webdao', 'GC4WP', 'tu01', 'ziliao1', 'zzs70', 'ff2017', 'guitu2017', 'tu2017', 'wm001', 'wnel2017', 'dunhlino', 'nelaliox', 'jianjian3219', 'giteecode', '666bears', 'wang-buer', 'id681ilyg316', 'uhjid', 'usdui', 'uhskl', 'uyjks', 'uhskldf', 'itgsi5', 'uifskv', 'uhgask', 'igfkld', 'udsjd', 'ufodk', 'uigsjt', 'ighfrs', 'haivs', 'idrkkld', 'yuisju', 'uldydj', 'uyuek', 'tydfj', 'uuedif', 'ykwsw3', 'uigsi7', 'tyiis', 'ykeik', 'ukvdj', 'uyikl', 'ufzekg', 'yiksure', 'rhksgz', 'rthls', 'rhjaw', 'rehlxs', 'thzsgt', 'tdidst', 'eglct', 'tjkdyu', 'tjlks', 'tjjds', 'rllfs', 'rhkstd', 'yjscdr', 'servisee', 'ufsjzf', 'bvnbvnfgd', 'duliyingshi', 'calendi', 'mayeobey', 'QQMusic-Jay-Chou', 'boylovecomic', 'bt9527', 'FarmerChina', 'Waymon102092', 'baofx', 'biehd', 'moonpas', 'lyqilo', 'liliqh', 'hourv', 'xinfue', 'jijidianying', 'YuyanCai', 'jtdh', 'isdkxr', 'yhildyu', 'ykldyld', 'igsigk', 'uidekj', 'iufskw', 'udsjhf', 'tjkdx', 'rtkist', 'tjlsyh', 'euhf', 'rjzsht', 'rhkdzu', 'ehkkld', 'xzgfsw', 'iofgd', 'yufdk', 'ujkdub', 'iofgdsk', 'dyghikg', 'ugdskf', 'ifwaih', 'oigsiu', 'yjksku', 'yfdkkrf', 'thjsqd', 'yjsyhf', 'ydjsu6', 'igseyf', 'ujudy8', 'tykde', 'ykmdi8', 'yklzrf', 'uijdkd', 'yjkshc', 'tkajc', 'ykdzs', 'jklsx', 'ejldux', 'ifxspo', 'ogsvtf', 'ifdeu', 'yudfdi', 'ofssj', 'igegkx', 'ugfkd', 'ugdsk', 'udskts', 'yjlkdss', 'fkdryl', 'rtuyjsr', 'tus56f', 'yjdsd', 'yuet6h', 'ugtw', 'tlkxt', 'yesrs', 'ykkds', 'yjksu', 'yhyshs', 'xdzfby', 'yujzdh', 'znfl', 'kjiud', 'shijuezhishi', 'hy1980boy', 'ww0304', 'ZXCASD854', 'zfpdh', 'batiyadh', 'yinsedh', 'yyfxz', 'bllpooe', 'joodfer', 'qdmang', 'chaenet', 'mzsyv', 'kzhaoes', 'clnnews', 'kendnes', 'hongnews', 'luokez', 'li721-LY', 'itunsr', 'cctnews', 'htmle', 'xmmj2', 'younownews', '445435213', 'seseClub', 'enewse', 'wsnewse', 'qsnews', 'soasmoughroy', 'adminewhat', 'wsermusic', 'molingfer', 'zhihues', '95movies', '99fuli', 'qnewse', 'tareres', 'hukioip', 'Hochoclate713', 'ervnme', 'greenleaf8888', '93-days', 'doubanm', 'xhydh', 'fvckslvt', 'MDCM-FB', 'b08240', 'm3u8-ekvod', 'huan768468', 'SweeOBC', 'ningmengsuan7788', 'supperqb', 'idskjs', 'ifsird', 'gklksr', 'ifsjxr', 'ifskxt', 'ghjklsd', 'udsskd', 'tgsjk', 'ihgsk', 'ujsjk', 'ijhdf', 'fghhgks', 'udfae4', 'jujwdj', 'ydsdk', 'uyfgsj', 'ykkxrd', 'branono', 'hytcd', 'kjiuo', 'SaolApp', 'lourv', 'uisdlk', 'hutuhai', 'dengminna', 'whmnoe4j', 'txy9704', 'ufsjl', 'udsks', 'uifsjk', 'ygsaj', 'udsts', 'yurdek', 'ghklsr', 'ifsnx', 'ufskd', 'yujst6', 'ifsurjn', 'saoyagma', 'yusyrdk', 'uijhgr', 'geeeeeeeek', 'gfjklk', 'uiskv', 'ccccsp', 'rrrsp', 'udjxs', 'qiezisp', 'egklkd', 't6korf', 'line915577', 'haijv', 'huaxinzhibo', 'haijiaofabuye', 'haijiaoshequ', 'HaijiaoCommunity', 'haijiao-app', 'fulibaike', 'lurmarp', 'entvasa', 'gotwib', 'hghkiiy121', 'gubcem', 'uijssu', 'yjhuk', 'yklsd', 'haijiaoWeb', 'winston779', 'tyukkst', 'ujsnmc', 'ygssk', 'igdkdy', 'qiezishiping', 'kjuhd', 'xiaogongzhuAPP', 'babyzhibo', 'yaojingzhibo', 'balizhibo', 'jiuaizhibo', 'liuyuezhibo', '69live', 'asidw', 'kuaimaoVIP', 'siguaha', 'mizhizhibo', 'lihzd', 'caomeizhibo', '36DAPP', 'luolisheApp', '69zhibo', 'jiejiezhibo', 'k8japan', 'buyaoshan', 'dk111222', 'fanbaovpn', 'HGcrowntiyu', '196tiyu', 'parryno', 'boyiscode', 'moonews', 'kim1528'
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https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/470797-github-去除中文搜索污染 by "Mai Kuraki". Blocklist is:
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"haoxuesen"
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"zhaohmng", "zaohmeing", "zhaohmng-outlook-com", "zaohmeing": Zhao Heming (召赫名)
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"Thestrangercamus": https://github.com/Thestrangercamus/On-constitution-amendment-NO.1
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"shengxinjing": https://github.com/shengxinjing/programmer-job-blacklist. Why?
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"************", "codin-stuffs", "cheezcharmer"
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"Dimples1337": https://web.archive.org/web/20221014142033/https://github.com/Dimples1337/
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"gege-circle",
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For better or worse, China and other countries happen to be located in the same planet.
If China’s economy is bad, the economy gets worse in other countries.
If China’s environment is bad, the environment gets worse in other countries.
If China starts a war, other countries will have to fight it.
If China fails to control a viral outbreak, other countries might get infected.
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Millions of Chinese people disagree with their government, but can’t say anything about it, otherwise they will go straight to jail. See also: Section 5.7.1.2, “Most Chinese people like their ************ (**大众支持他们的**)”
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Chinese people have been brainwashed by the commies who say that all foreigners are bad, more than the West has been brainwashed to think that he CCP is bad: Non-Chinese people have been brainwashed by the USA know nothing about China (非**人被美国洗脑，对**一无所知)
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China would never ever try to influence foreign countries, would it? E.g. [belt-and-road-initiative], Confucius institute (孔子学院), [cgtn].
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If I marry a Chinese woman, my mother-in-law might be unfairly put in jail :-)
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The CCP would not be in power if it weren’t for the Second Sino-Japanese War (如果没有抗日战争，**就不会执政) and if the Soviet Union helped out Mao:
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You can’t do anything about it.
In the end, this is what all politics comes down to: power.
In some sense, this may be similar to the CCP and any other political party.
Figure 23. House of Cards S01E02 "Nobody can hear you. Nobody cares about you. Nothing will come of this." GIF. Source.https://youtube.com/watch?v=SRPiE59e8NU House of Cards S01E02 Officer: "Some guy was trying to get into the building, when we said "no" he started tearing his clothes off." Frank: "Nobody can hear you. Nobody cares about you. Nothing will come of this. Why don’t you let these nice gentlemen take you home?" video clip. Interpretation: https://movies.stackexchange.com/questions/94608/what-can-we-make-out-of-the-final-scene-from-house-of-cards-season-1-ep-2
Why don’t you go instead shitpost in one of the following repositories and which are written in Chinese by Chinese citizens, many of which have many times more stars than china-************, and therefore are much more effective at taking down the GFW? GitHub repositories with censored information (政治敏感的GitHub库).
See also:
Duplicate pool: https://github.com/************/china-************/issues?q=label%3Ayou-are-not-chinese-argument
Amazing quote from [mao-zedong]'s short essay "In Memory of Bethune" (纪念白求恩), an eulogy to Canadian communist Norman Bethune (白求恩) who worked as a medic for the CCP during the Second Sino-Japanese War, saying that the CCP should embrace help from Communists from other countries to their revolution:
一个外国人，毫无利己的动机，把**人民的解放事业当作他自己的事业，这是什么精神？这是国际主义的精神，这是共产主义的精神，每一个**共产党员都要学习这种精神。列宁主义认为：资本主义国家的无产阶级要拥护殖民地半殖民地人民的解放斗争，殖民地半殖民地的无产阶级要拥护资本主义国家的无产阶级的解放斗争，世界革命才能胜利
What kind of spirit is this for a foreigner who has no self-interested motives and regards the liberation cause of the Chinese people as his own cause? This is the spirit of internationalism, this is the spirit of communism, and every Chinese Communist Party member must Learn this spirit. Leninism believes that the proletariat of capitalist countries must support the liberation struggle of the people of colonial and semi-colonial countries, and the proletariat of colonial and semi-colonial countries must support the liberation struggle of the proletariat of capitalist countries. Only then can the world revolution be victorious.
This is the prefect reply to Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (外国人不应该干预**政治)!!!
Brought to our attention by Reddit user No-Lingonberry-2173 at: https://www.reddit.com/r/China_irl/comments/1bn47e5/comment/kwgqaye/
Bibliography:
5.5.2. The CCP would not be in power if it weren’t for the Second Sino-Japanese War (如果没有抗日战争，**就不会执政)
TODO study further to confirm:
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https://www.quora.com/How-much-is-Japan-to-blame-for-the-KMT-losing-control-of-the-Chinese-mainland
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https://www.japanpolicyforum.jp/diplomacy/pt20160517095311.html (Japanese state media, but cites sources)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Revolution mentions:
The French historian Lucien Bianco, however, is among those who question whether imperialism and "feudalism" explain the revolution.[7] He points out that the Chinese Communist Party did not have great success until the Japanese invasion of China after 1937. Before the war, the peasantry was not ready for revolution; economic reasons were not enough to mobilize them. More important was nationalism: "It was the war that brought the Chinese peasantry and China to revolution; at the very least, it considerably accelerated the rise of the CCP to power."
And China would be much much less technologically advanced had it come in contact with the West, from which it is still trying to learn/steal from: University espionage (大学间谍).
Foreign influence can be both good or bad.
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http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2005/07/12/2003263221/ (BIASED) says:
War histories from both Japan and the Republic of China clearly indicate the scale of the CCP’s "participation." From 1937 to 1945, there were 23 battles where both sides employed at least a regiment each. The CCP was not a main force in any of these. The only time it participated, it sent a mere 1,000 to 1,500 men, and then only as a security detachment on one of the flanks.
There were 1,117 significant engagements on a scale smaller than a regular battle, but the CCP fought in only one. Of the approximately 40,000 skirmishes, just 200 were fought by the CCP, or 0.5 percent.
Not even the CCP can provide any data on its number of casualties in the war, and there are no memorials to CCP heroes in the war to be found in China. This makes one wonder what China really did contribute
5.5.3. Non-Chinese people have been brainwashed by the USA know nothing about China (非**人被美国洗脑，对**一无所知)
Everyone is "brainwashed" by their environment.
E.g. people in the West are brainwashed to believe in democracy, freedom of speech and human rights.
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) doesn’t doubt that Chinese people know more about China than him.
Saying that "someone is not Chinese, he does not understand China", is just an useless Ad hominem (訴諸人身) argument and closely related to Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (外国人不应该干预**政治).
Since you know so much about China, why why don’t you just actually prove your point by teaching Ciro one single interesting about China that Ciro didn’t know about? He loves learning new things.
But please, link to reference material instead of just saying it, it will be much more convincing.
But if you are Chinese, also consider that you have been brainwashed by the commies, so likely much more than Ciro since you live in a ************.
See also:
First, obviously, Western democracies are not perfect (西方的**有很多缺点).
However, the CCP greatly exaggerates how evil the West is, because making your people constantly afraid is a classic strategy used by dictators to stay in power.
Or in fable form:
Once upon a time, there was a farmer with a farm.
One day, the animals on the farm started feeling a bit trapped, and started bumping against the fence to get out.
The farmer, however, was smart, and told the animals:
Careful! There is a wolf outside! If you go out, you will be eaten by the wolf!
The animals, were not that smart, and listened to the farmer, they were afraid!
From time to time, one of the animals would disappear (and without their knowledge, reappear on the farmer’s dinner table).
But the farmer kept giving the animals delicious food without them making any effort, so they decided to believe the farmer’s explanation that animal had escaped and been eaten by the wolf.
Maybe, there was actually a wolf outside. But if they had escaped, only some of the animals would have been eaten by that wolf.
But by staying on the farm, all the animals were, sooner or later, eaten one by one.
TODO source.
This theme is also highlighted in many well known works/events.
North Korea for example, China’s good and trusty friend, is just a caricatural level of this, since it manages to be more a ************ than even China itself!
In fiction, [nineteen-eighty-four] is undoubtedly the most prominent example, in which the Party constantly switches from being at war with one country to the other in a never ending perpetual war (exactly like North Korea vs South Korea, or China vs Taiwan (Republic of China, **, 中華民國)).
One of the best related quotes comes in Part Two, Chapter 9 when Winston reads Emmanuel Goldstein’s subversive text, one of the chapters contains (emphasis by Ciro):
The war, therefore, if we judge it by the standards of previous wars, is merely an imposture. It is like the battles between certain ruminant animals whose horns are set at such an angle that they are incapable of hurting one another. But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that a hierarchical society needs. War, it will be seen, is now a purely internal affair. In the past, the ruling groups of all countries, although they might recognize their common interest and therefore limit the destructiveness of war, did fight against one another, and the victor always plundered the vanquished. In our own day they are not fighting against one another at all. The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact. The very word 'war', therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous war has ceased to exist. The peculiar pressure that it exerted on human beings between the Neolithic Age and the early twentieth century has disappeared and been replaced by something quite different. The effect would be much the same if the three super-states, instead of fighting one another, should agree to live in perpetual peace, each inviolate within its own boundaries. For in that case each would still be a self-contained universe, freed for ever from the sobering influence of external danger. A peace that was truly permanent would be the same as a permanent war. This—although the vast majority of Party members understand it only in a shallower sense—is the inner meaning of the Party slogan: WAR IS PEACE.
This is also the first line of the party slogan, which perfectly resonates with the CCP:
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
or in Part One, Chapter 3:
Since about that time, war had been literally continuous, though strictly speaking it had not always been the same war. For several months during his childhood there had been confused street fighting in London itself, some of which he remembered vividly. But to trace out the history of the whole period, to say who was fighting whom at any given moment, would have been utterly impossible, since no written record, and no spoken word, ever made mention of any other alignment than the existing one. At this moment, for example, in 1984 (if it was 1984), Oceania was at war with Eurasia and in alliance with Eastasia. In no public or private utterance was it ever admitted that the three powers had at any time been grouped along different lines. Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control. Officially the change of partners had never happened. Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, and it followed that any past or future agreement with him was impossible.
Another amazing quote that comes to mind is from the 1982 BBC TV adaptation of John Le Carre’s spy novel "Smiley’s People". In it, master British spy codenamed Smiley manages to coerce the head of the KGB spies, codename "Karla" to defect to the West by threatening to publicize illegal acts Karla committed for the benefit of the health mentally troubled daughter, and which would likely lead to his execution. In a letter he writes to Karla, he says, likely copied verbatim from the novel:
And I am not going to make any claims about the moral superiority of the West. I’m sure you can see through our values, just as I can see through yours in the East. You and I have spent our lives looking for the weaknesses in each other’s systems. I’m sure each of us experienced innumerable technical satisfactions in our wretched cold war. But now your own side is going to shoot you, for nothing. For misdemeanors you have not committed, because of a power struggle within your own kind, because of someone’s suspicions or sheer incompetence.
See also: https://www.quora.com/What-do-you-like-and-admire-about-the-culture-of-China/answer/Ciro-Santilli
https://youtu.be/74Mw3N6WxG0?t=174 Cant Get You Out of My Head S01E05 Part Five The Lordly Ones also (2021, BBC) mentions that a huge propaganda machinery was created to spread the fake news that [tiananmen] was an evil western plot.
Bibliography:
United China Relief was the largest humanitarian effort in the United States to aid the Chinese people up to that time. The organization, which was renamed United Service to China (USC) after the Second World War, raised over US$50 million in donations over ten ten years.
5.6. Ciro Santilli and this page are completely biased against the Chinese Government! (***和本页完全对**政府有偏见！)
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) prefers the term focused :-)
That being said, Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) takes the agenda of information sources very seriously.
E.g. he tries to clearly classify Communist Party, Falun Gong, and Western government-linked information sources.
If we had more Western democracies are not perfect (西方的**有很多缺点) content, then maybe this repository would be considered a more reputable source by Chinese people.
However, there are a few practical problems to that:
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there is freedom of speech in the West and people can already see that information on newspapers who have a million times more viewers than this repo (and still obviously no conclusion was reached), there’s no need to repeat that here
Conversely, bad China news are always OK because, because those are all censored in China and help Chinese people learn about it.
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flooding The CCP exaggerates the threat of the West to keep in power (**夸大了西方要继续掌权的威胁) posts is a primary [wumao] tactic
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The CCP exaggerates the threat of the West to keep in power (**夸大了西方要继续掌权的威胁) information is already abundantly accessible to Chinese people in Chinese via any CCP media: [chinese-government-media].
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people’s minds cannot be changed, and notably not in a language that most people of a country don’t understand. This is why the primary goal of this repo is the Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击): it does not require changing people’s opinions.
For those reasons, we currently forbid, posting several evil-West news without explaining why ************s handle it better. It would just generates more noise than signal.
If you do explain however why ************s/China handle it better, then the post is welcome.
Any political material that is censored by any country besides China, will also be readily accepted.
Any evidence of positive political progress towards freedom will also be added to this repo, e.g. people openly discussing politics online, human rights activists doing political stuff and not being put into jail, etc.
See also:
Ciro Santilli’s Ciro Santilli’s wife (***的老婆), her mother, and paternal cousin, believe that Ciro’s wife is the descendant of the brother of a recent Qing emperor through her father’s family.
Although they have not been able to produce concrete evidence, which could be explained by the endless political turmoils in 20th century China, Ciro decided that this would be a good bet to take, and married her anyway.
If anyone is able to provide further evidence of this relationship, please, please, please get in touch.
One thing to keep in mind is that the [qing-dynasty], like the previous [ming-dynasty], used Generation names (行辈), such that the first character of the given name is the same for all people in a given generation (counted directly from the first emperor that adopted the rule.
For example, this wiki page contains a good family tree of the most important Qing people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_tree_of_Chinese_monarchs_(late)#Qing_dynasty and we see that many important people around 1861 were Zai 載something, e.g.: Zaichun, Zaiyi, Zaitian, etc.
The last emperor was Puyi, so Pu is the last well known mark. But there were others planned that never got used for after him as shown at: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=House_of_Aisin-Gioro&oldid=858104957.
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Zai (before Pu)
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Pu (wife’s great-grandfather)
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Yu (wife’s grandfather)
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Heng (wife’s father)
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Qi (wife)
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Dao (wife’s children). At least one thing is decided from this: Ciro’s children Chinese names will all be Ai Dao Something.
Many of them have had different names in different places/countries, notably many used the name 肇(Zhao) rather than 艾.
Further anecdotal indicators follow.
Ciro’s wife and family are clearly of the Manchu ethnicity just by looking at them, and they originally lived in the North East of China
Ciro’s wife’s family name is the 艾, pronounced "ai4", which she claims is a reference to the 愛 (also pronounced ai4) in Aisin Gioro (愛新覺羅氏), which is the name of the Manchu ruling clan of the Qing dynasty.
艾 iself is however a somewhat common family name, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_(surname) mentions that it is listed in the Hundred Family Surnames (百家姓), a list of common surnames compiled in the [song-dynasty] with around 400.000 members as of 2008. Presumably members of the falling Qing dynasty chose that relatively common Chinese name to avoid persecution, while still retaining a bit of their history.
Bibliography:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_of_the_House_of_Aisin_Gioro
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https://www.zhihu.com/question/34813921 现在清朝皇室的后代现状如何？ What is the current status of the descendants of the Qing royal family?
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https://www.quora.com/Are-there-any-descendants-of-the-Qing-Dynasty-left-currently
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https://arxiv.org/pdf/1412.6274.pdf "Y Chromosome of Aisin Gioro, the Imperial House of Qing Dynasty" unknown year. Unfortunately Ciro’s wife does not have an Y chromosome like her father. This does however mention the book used as a genealogy reference: https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/愛新覺羅宗譜.html?id=Pj4EAQAAIAAJ 愛新覺羅宗譜 On Douban: https://book.douban.com/subject/4162448/ gives ISBN 9787507713428 On Amazon unavailable: https://www.amazon.com/dp/7507713423. Lol this makes this repo show up at: https://paperswithcode.com/paper/y-chromosome-of-aisin-gioro-the-imperial
Ciro’s father-in-law, who he barely met, was very old when he had Ciro’s wife, and passed away before Ciro could talk a lot with him, they only saw each other once or twice over Skype, he died soon afterwards.
Having a child late which is consistent with the claims that he spent several years in jail during Mao’s purges, see also: Ciro Santilli’s wife (***的老婆). Being an educated person was a crime in those days, and he was a chemical engineer.
His brother and sister both managed to escape to the USA and Japan, but he took his grandma’s advice and stayed in China.
Ciro’s wife adores her father, who she strongly resembles, and it is a huge shame Ciro didn’t manage to meet him better.
Like his daughter, he was a bibliophile, foodie, Buddhist and incredibly morally upright.
The fact that he survived so many years in prison also attests to his incredible hopefulness and mental health: Ciro Santilli’s mother-in-law (***的岳母) always tells how many other prisoners killed themselves in those days out of hopelessness. Ciro’s wife shares that amazing quality, which Ciro also believes is compatible with the Royalty theory.
After jail, he actually stayed in the same shitty city where he had been imprisoned, and continued to work as a chemical engineer to make a living and try and improve the country that had so badly betrayed him a few years back.
He also seemed to be an amazing story teller, of which he knew many. At one point, a jail cook took him under his wing, even tough he did not know how to cook too well yet, just to hear his stores. Being highly intelligent, the father-in-law man learned to cook too of course.
Another remarkable episode is when he was working in the prison kitchen, and some man was starving and asked for food. He told the man to come later during the evening. The man came, and he gave him a bowl that seemed to be full of cooked vegetables (likely 白菜). The next day, the man came back, and kowtowed him. Beneath the vegetables, he had hidden some good chunks of then very precious meat!! This story makes Ciro cry.
5.6.3. Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed (***对**成见很深，无法改变)
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) tries to justify why he think China would be better with democracy, but I know that ultimately all of this is useless.
Everyone’s opinions are all determined genetically and by bring-up, and there is nothing he can do to change yours, or you change his.
From that point of view, all of this is just a cold blooded political game, in which Ciro tries to force the CCP to take down the Firewall: Why attack websites with censored keywords? (用审查词攻击网站有什么用呢？).
Ciro never gets mad about China, even if your opinion is contrary to his, and therefore wrong.
Using the reply policy is one of the reasons why Ciro never gets mad.
Ciro also has doubts about the efficiency of certain things I do as expressed throughout this FAQ, e.g. Embargoes make ************s stronger (禁运使**更强大).
Also, Ciro have never said that anyone else is wrong.
In the end, he just end up thinking about new replies to things people say to him, and add them to this FAQ so that future replies will be faster to copy paste. See also: Doesn’t Ciro Santilli have anything better to do than pissing off China? (除了反对**以外，***有没有别的更好的事儿要作吗？).
The real goal of any online discussion, is not to convince people, but rather to determine who is an ally and who is not, and get those allies together to defeat the commies.
5.6.4. Does Ciro Santilli support Falun Gong just because his wife and mother-in-law do it? (***是否仅仅因为他的妻子和岳母就支持**功？)
Not consciously, Ciro thinks would likely support them even if I didn’t have family ties to [falun-gong].
Likely he wouldn’t have started this campaign if he didn’t know them of course.
But of course, this is impossible to answer objectively.
Wouldn’t you be rather upset if your mother in law were put into jail unfairly for 15 days?
But don’t you think that 70 million people (6% of the total population in 2000!) getting completely squashed by the Party illustrates extremely well the dangers of the ************?
Or if a Jew has escaped a concentration camp and told the world about its horrors, would you just dismiss their claims due to their biased opinion?
With that in mind, Ciro tries his best to give FLG only the right level of exposure I think it deserves relative to other events, according to these guidelines: How does Ciro Santilli choose keywords for the keyword attack? (***如何为关键词攻击选择关键词？).
If more recent events of mass human rights violations happen, especially affecting in the order of tens of million people, I will probably rank higher than Falun Gong, this was the case for Xinjiang in 2019 for example, even though it only affected a measly million.
The last straw that led Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) to start the Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击) on Stack Overflow was when on March 2015 his girlfriend’s mother was arbitrarily kept 15 days in jail for doing [falun-gong]. He posted about this at:
He then continued because he hate political censorship, and because I love China.
Every time Ciro thinks about this, he notices how stupid humans are. We see the forest fire smoke, and just never think that it will ever reach your home on the border of the forest.
Until it actually does, and then you are really fucked.
So in a sense it was a good thing that Ciro had this little backyard fire with this mother-in-law, as it woke him up further to how serious the CCP thread was, and led him to action.
Because before that, he was one of the majority who just constantly hears about the increasing mountain of evidence of human rights violations, and does nothing about it.
The Darkest Hour (2017) film comes to mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA1Uz_TMzhs. The movie shows that Britain was truly hesitant whether to negotiate or fight Hitler, even after the Nazis had already started invading other European countries, and would clearly not stop. Luckily, we are not at a position of war yet, and might never be due to nuclear weapons. But still, a similar blindness applies. Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查) woke up many people, but even then some haven’t faced it.
Put in jail for 15 days for doing Falun Gong in 2015: Ciro Santilli’s post when his mother-in-law was put into jail for doing Falun Gong (岳母因修炼**功入狱时的帖子).
Some related remarks: [flg-daily].
5.6.5.2. Ciro Santilli’s post when his mother-in-law was put into jail for doing Falun Gong (岳母因修炼**功入狱时的帖子)
Maybe some people would be happy if their mother-in-law were put into jail. But unfortunately, this wasn’t the case for Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的).
My girlfriend’s mother, a 63 year old lady, was kept 15 days inside a Chinese "correctional facility" because she does Falun Gong.
She had to stay all the time in a small room with a bed and a toilet, under video surveillance, being fed three meager meals a day.
I see Falun Gong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong as just another moderate religion which causes no harm to its believers. The only reason that it is unofficially outlawed in China is because the communists fear it as a political competitor.
There was no trial and no explanation. She was going to take a train to visit her sister. But she didn’t know that there was an important political event happening in the capital: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_National_People’s_Congress So the police at the station, who already knew she did Falun Gong, took her away.
When she came back home, the house had been searched and was all messed up. Her religious books and computer were missing.
I’m glad she was not physically harmed. I find it fascinating how even well educated Chinese support a government which simply does not represent some of its people. How will you feel when something like that happens to your own family, and there is nothing you can do about it?
Translation by my wife:
我女朋友的母亲，一位63岁的女士被监禁在一个**的"劳教所"，只因为她炼**功。
她被迫待在一个小屋子里面，只有一张床和一个排泄的地方，一直处在监视器下，每天两个窝头一碗只有几个白菜叶的汤。
我看过**功https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong 只是一个和平的信仰，对相信它的人没有任何坏处。它在**被非官方的定为违法（其实没有一项明确法律禁止），唯一的原因就是工产党害怕它是一个政治竞争对手。
没有审讯没有任何解释。她正准备坐火车去看她的姐姐。但是她并不知道那个时候有重要的政治会议正在首都进行：https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_National_People’s_Congress 所以那些知道她炼**功的铁路警察把她带走了。
当她回到家中时，房子被搜查过了，四处一切混乱。她的信仰书籍和电脑都没有了。
我很庆幸的是她身体并没有受到伤害。我觉得很意思的是一些受过良好教育的**人怎么能够**一部分它的人民的政府呢？如果这样的事情发生在你的家庭，而你什么都不能做，你会怎么想？
Translation by myself:
A mãe da minha namorada ficou 15 dias num "centro de correção" chines porque ela faz Falun Gong.
Ela ficou o tempo todo num quarto pequeno com uma cama e banheiro, sobe videovigilância, recebendo 3 refeições pequenas por dia.
Para mim, o Falun Gong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong é apenas mais uma religião moderada que não causa nenhum problema para seus crentes. A única razão pela qual ele é proibido na China é porque os comunistas tem medo dele como competidor politico.
Não houve julgamento nem explicação. Ela ia pegar um trem para ver sua irmã, mas ela não sabia que teria um evento político importante na capital: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_National_People’s_Congress Então a polícia da estação, que já sabia que ela faz Falun Gong pegou ela.
Quando ela voltou pra casa, a casa tinha sido procurada pela polícia e estava uma bagunça. Os livros religiosos e seu computador foram confiscados.
Eu fico feliz apenas que ela não sofreu abuso físico. Eu acho fascinante como mesmo muitos chineses educados apoiam ainda um governo que não representa parte do povo. Como você vai se sentir quando algo do tipo acontecerá com a sua família, e você não pode fazer nada sobre isso?
March 2015: 15 days in jail for no reason: https://www.facebook.com/************/posts/952661734753174. They took her computer. When she left jail, she asked to get it back, and a cop said they would only give it back if she paid 10,000 yuan for it.
June 2017: 3 cops came to her house. She was there. They asked if she still did Falun Gong. She said yes. They took photos of her Falun Gong books/posters. They were polite.
October 2017: 7 - 8 cops came to her house at 11PM. They knocked the door strongly and made noise, and questioned neighbours of her whereabouts. Luckily she was not there.
5.6.5.4. In the Tweet about his mother in law, Ciro Santilli says "correctional facility", but reeducation through labour has been abolished
He was not very precise here, the precise term is "jail". He was not talking about: [re-education-through-labor]. Unfortunately it is not possible to edit a Tweet.
Welcome to the wonderful world of democracy, a world where people can have different political opinions than you :-)
If you are so fine, why are you reading this at all? Go back to being fine.
See also:
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) can understand that.
There are concrete advantages to being a ************, see e.g. ************s have greater development variability (专政具有更大的发展可变性), Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (为什么**和言论自由能够让**变得更加富有？), making good radical changes like simplifying your insane writing system.
And it must feel good to have absolute truth in the Cult of Xi, and let the black police get rid of weirdos for you.
But what happens when the ************ turns again you our your family? Will you fight, or will you just let them do whatever they want because they can never be wrong? See also: Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities (大多数**人不关心少数民族).
And when your son betrays you or sacrifices himself for the Dictator, will you just smile and accept it in pride?
What happens when the dictator declares waw, and if you protest against it, you will go to jail?
Intolerance is a risky way to live.
5.7.1.1. Seventeen Moments of Spring (1973, 春天的十七个瞬间, Soviet series about a Soviet spy against the Nazis, 关于苏联间谍反对纳粹的苏联系列)
Soviet mini-series about about Stierlitz, who is an undercover Soviet spy acting as a Nazi officer in Nazi Germany during WW2.
As a fun note, it seems that [putin] is a Stierlitz fan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stierlitz#cite_note-Sakwa-5, and Putin also served in Germany like Stierlitz, but in Dresden, which was in East Germany.
A scene from the awesome mini-series comes to mind when thinking about I like my ************ (我喜欢我的****).
In Episode 7, Stierlitz travels on a train with a Nazi officer.
The war is almost over, and the desolate officer tells Stierlitz:
I told my children: I hate any democracy!
No democracy in our Reich!
Any democracy in our country is doomed to end up with one thing: the ************ of small shopkeepers.
The more freedom we have, the sooner we want to be controlled by SS troops again.
And then we want our the secret police back, and concentration death camps again, and the universal fear everywhere! Only then we feel calm and secure.
No need to prove your point of view in defending the fate of the homeland.
No responsibility.
Just raise your hand in honor of him, who will take care of everything for you,
Just shout out "Hail Hitler!" and everything will become understandable.
No more worries.
It is amusing to see Soviet series criticizing ************s, given that the Soviet Union was itself a major ************!
It is easy to reach an agreement, when everyone who disagrees goes to jail or gets killed for to [inciting-subversion] or [picking-quarrels].
This is exactly Herman Goring said in his appearances on the Nuremberg trials to justify the atrocities of Nazism.
Also ask the millions of people who were affected by [tiananmen], [falun-gong], Xinjiang (**) or [dissidents]. See also: 2022 COVID-19 protests in China (白纸运动, 白纸革命, White paper protests).
One is reminded of the game "We Happy Few" (2018), which which people are forced to be happy. [nineteen-eighty-four] also comes to mind of course.
The interesting thing, is that even those pro-CCP are much more likely to stay anonymous because:
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you never know when something you said will become a sin against some new trend of the ************
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when the ************ inevitably falls, you would be persecuted by the victorious freedom fighters
It is really interesting to see how many people star the GitHub repository, and then a few minutes later they think about how they might get put in jail, and then unstar it.
Unstarring events are exceedingly rare in Ciro’s other repositories.
The expression two steps forward, one step back comes to mind.
Luckily in this case, it does not seem possible to view who unstarred a repository after the fact:
The catch 22 of dictorships is that:
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if is citizens express themselves anonymously, they are dismissed as foreign agents
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if they express themselves non anonymously, they go to jail
The Chilling effect (寒蝉效应) is extremelly visible on GitHub.
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) is able to see this easily because the star notification remains in the GitHub dashboard even after unstarring.
However, star events are also publicly visible permanently on events API under the WatchEvent: https://docs.github.com/en/developers/webhooks-and-events/events/github-event-types#watchevent
This appears to get them all from GitHub Archive's Google BigQuery up to the last whole month:
SELECT actor.login, MAX(created_at) FROM `githubarchive.month.*` WHERE type = 'WatchEvent' AND repo.name = '************/china-************' GROUP BY actor.login ORDER BY MAX(created_at) DESC
Ciro verified that does include people who unstarred.
That one exceeds the free data limits as of December 2021 however, so you need to select more specific months/years at a time. Note that year data is only released once every year.
The following ranges manage to get all data as December 2021 for free:
FROM `githubarchive.year.201*` FROM `githubarchive.year.202*` FROM `githubarchive.month.2021*`
supposing that unique starrers
You can then "Save results" as CSV to view all users.
There don’t appear to be unstar events however. You can see single people star multiple times, which means that each new star gives a new row, which is why we do the GROUP BY.
How can you be that certain that your children won’t have dissident ideas and be punished unfairly for them?
Intolerance is a risky way to live. Everyone is part of one minority in one way. If all minorities were oppressed, everyone would be oppressed.
************s crush minorities much more than democracies.
Do think the majority of the Chinese people would vote to put 50 year old [falun-gong] meditating aunties in jail, if the CCP hadn’t made a huge propaganda campaign and used an iron fist?
Are the Chinese really that selfish to vote for this oppression, even as the free media would show videos of meditating old ladies in jail on national television? Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) does not believe this.
Minorities are put in jail because the CCP fears them. ************s can only survive if there is zero difference in opinion in the population.
The famous quote from Evelyn Beatrice Hall (伊夫林·比阿特丽斯·霍尔) comes to mind:
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
我不同意你的意见，但我以死捍卫你说话的权利”
See also:
This text comes in relation to the Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities (大多数**人不关心少数民族) shown by brainwashed Chinese to the oppression of minrities. In it, the priest Martin Niemöller regrets not having supported the rights of his opponents that were unfairly treated by the Nazi Government:
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a socialist.Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist.Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew.Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak for me.
A translation from Wikipedia:
起初，纳粹抓共产党人的时候， 我沉默，因为我不是共产党人。
当他们抓社会**主义者的时候， 我沉默，因为我不是社会**主义者。
当他们抓工会成员的时候， 我沉默，因为我不是工会成员。
当他们抓犹太人的时候， 我沉默，因为我不是犹太人。
最后当他们来抓我时， 再也没有人站起来为我说话了。
5.7.1.3.2. It is fine for the CCP to treat some of its citizens unfairly if the majority is better off (如果大多数人过得更好，那么**不公平地对待一些公民是可以的)
See:
5.7.1.3.3. This is Ciro Santilli’s personal problem, we have nothing to do with it, stop punishing us for it (这是***的个人问题，我们与此无关，不要因此而惩罚我们)
We have to fight for justice for our fellows, or else when injustice happens to us, no one will fight for use either: Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities (大多数**人不关心少数民族).
Every form of protest incurs some damage. E.g., if we manifest on the street, it generates a traffic jam.
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) doesn’t like it, but he thinks it is worth it.
If you just work to make money and have a good life, without any plans to improve the government, you are just making the economy of the ************ stronger, then when they start a war or kill yet another minority, blood will also be on your hands. See also: What should Western countries do about China? (西方国家应该怎么对待**？).
5.7.1.3.4. If anyone disagrees with the government they must be punished to keep the stability of the country (如果有人不同意政府，他们必须受到惩罚以保持国家的稳定)
The most possible stable state is a Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a ************? (**不是**！) like Nazi Germany. Except for the part where they try to take over the world and fail. This is exactly what China is becoming: the freaking Fourth Reich (希特勒只有一个蛋, 1939).
Destroying diversity is the best way to reach a point where everyone can agree to start a new big war and destroy everything.
The CCP thrives on the excessive fear it instigates into its own people.
How can society improve, if we are never allowed to try new things out?
Change in democracies does not require violence. Violence happens because the government punishes any dissidence, even if pacific, to retain its own power.
In democracies, radical policy changes happen without dropping a single drop of blood. People vote, and policies change, end of the story. In JFK’s words:
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable
See also:
5.8. There are bad things happening all over the world, why doesn’t Ciro Santilli fight for those causes as well/instead? (世界各地都有不好的事情发生，为什么***不为这些原因而战/相反？)
We have to choose the one we think is the worst, and focus on it.
What is worse is a subjective choice. For Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的):
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he loves China and Ciro’s Chinese wife, see also: Ciro Santilli and this page are completely biased against the Chinese Government! (***和本页完全对**政府有偏见！), and doesn’t want it to get fucked further by the CCP
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he hates ************s, and China is the largest one by population/GDP/nuclear stockpile, and therefore the most dangerous
Ciro SO username and protest time are not infinite.
However, it is good that different people have different interests, and someone will surely be fighting for whatever cause you care about.
See also:
Oh, no. You have discovered our secret!!!
That is definitely true.
Nothing is perfect in this world.
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) just believes that they are way better than a Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a ************? (**不是**！) like China, and that the Chinese government brainwashes its people to think that the West is evil to stay in power.
Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.
However, this is all obviously subjective, and believing that ************ is a better form of government is also a valid belief, e.g. ************s have greater development variability (专政具有更大的发展可变性).
If you find an event on a Western democracy that you would like to highlight, send a pull request.
We will not however include events that are not currently censored.
Every country did fucked-up things in the past, the question is if they currently allow discussion about it or not.
Posts that only mention "evil West" non-censored events without adding anything to the discussion will be marked as I want to take my chances and make a shitpost in ************/china-************ (屎帖子) and treated as such, since spamming those is the primary [wumao] technique to stop intelligent discussion.
The reason why "Evil China" posts are not shitposts in general on the other hand, is that they have one specific purpose: to destroy censorship.
This "Western censorship copypasta string" was posted automatically by a bot during r/China purge day:
North Dakota Access Pipeline Protests 北达科他州接入管道抗议
Ferguson Riots 弗格森暴动
2017 St. Louis protests2017 年圣路易斯抗议活动
Nuclear testing at Bikini Atoll 比基尼环礁的核试验
Unite the Right rally 团结右集会
Charlotte riots 夏洛特暴动
Attack on the Sui-ho Dam 袭击穗河水坝
Milwaukee riots 密尔沃基**
Shooting of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile 奥尔顿·斯特林和菲兰多·卡斯蒂利亚的射击
Occupation of the Malheur NationalWildlife Refuge Malheur国家野生动物保护区的占领
death of Freddie Gray 弗雷迪·格雷的死
Shooting of Michael Brown迈克尔·布朗的拍摄
death of Eric Garner, Oakland California 奥克兰奥克兰市埃里克·加纳（Eric Garner）逝世
Operation Condor 神鹰行动
Occupy WallStreet 占领华尔街
My Lai Massacre 我的大屠杀
St. Petersburg, Florida 佛罗里达州圣彼得堡
Kandahar Massacre 坎大哈屠杀
1992 Washington Heights riots 1992年华盛顿高地暴动
No Gun Ri Massacre 无枪杀案
L.A. Rodney King riots 洛杉矶罗德尼·金暴动
1979 Greensboro Massacre 1979年格林斯伯勒大屠杀
Vietnam War 越南战争
Kent State shootings肯特州枪击案
Bombing of Tokyo 轰炸东京
San Francisco Police Department Park Station bombing 旧金山警察局公园站爆炸案
Assassination of MartinLuther King, Jr. 小马丁·路德·金遭暗杀。
Long Hot Summer of 1967 1967年炎热的夏天
Bagram 巴格拉姆
Selma to Montgomery marches 塞尔玛到蒙哥马利游行
Highway of Death 死亡之路
Ax Handle Saturday 星期六斧头
Battle of Evarts 埃瓦茨战役
Battle ofBlair Mountain 布莱尔山战役
McCarthyism 麦卡锡主义
Red Summer 红色夏天
Rock Springs massacre 岩泉大屠杀
Pottawatomie massacre 盆大屠杀
Jeju uprising 济州起义
Colfaxmassacre 科尔法克斯大屠杀
Reading Railroad massacre 阅读铁路大屠杀
Rock Springs massacre 岩泉大屠杀
Bay viewMassacre 湾景大屠杀
Lattimer massacre 拉蒂默大屠杀
Ludlow massacre 拉德洛屠杀
Everett massacre 埃弗里特屠杀Centralia Massacre 中部大屠杀
Ocoee massacre Ocoee大屠杀
Herrin Massacre 赫林大屠杀
Redwood Massacre红木大屠杀
Columbine Mine Massacre 哥伦拜恩矿难
[guantanamo-bay]
extraordinary rendition 非凡的演绎
Abu Ghraib torture and prison abuse 阿布格莱布的酷刑和监狱虐待
Henry Kissinger 亨利·基辛格 [iranian-coup-1953]
Eight-Nation Alliance (八國聯軍) (1900)
Unequal treaty (不平等条约) (1842-1933)
Some others:
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too many people in jail in the USA:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_map_of_prison_population_rates_from_World_Prison_Brief.svg
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meanwhile China leads by far on execution numbers:
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See also:
Obviously Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) and everyone else knows that the Chinese are INCREDIBLY racist against blacks, way way more than in the West, based on conversations he’s had/overheard, and other circumstantial indications:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/wqlqqj/poor_girl/ video where black Tik Toker https://www.tiktok.com/@elmodrums complains that the Chinese comment "dancing monkeys" on her dancing videos
As well put by a commenter:
China is so openly racist that as far as the culture is concerned it isn’t racism but rather stating a fact. They think it’s totally normal and correct to believe terrible things about black peple. Its really shameful.
Label: racist-west
The only reason wumaos can point to the USA is that there are so many blacks there, and because for historical reasons they are in such a fucked up condition still today. Also in China, so people are just all much more generally fucked on average, so the difference wouldn’t show as much.
wumaos notably mention:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_can%27t_breathe
[wumao]'s started posting "I can’t breathe" everywhere, to which some people on Twitter replied "I can’t tweet" and [rebel-pepper] made a cartoon: https://www.rfa.org/english/cartoons/twitter-china-cartoon-06052020164712.html
The murder video went viral and was not taken down (would have been in China), all four officers were charged, and the event sparked nation wide protests:
Of course there is racism in the West. And we must recognize that, and fight it.
BTW the USA, and other Western countries besides Germany, were/are also incredibly racist against Jews, e.g. Richard Feynman could not be admitted in certain universities due to a Jewish quota, even though he was not a believer himself, therefore based on race alone!
As of the 2020’s, given the importance of political correctness in the West, some wumaos have tried to turn to this line of defense.
Of course, it rarely works, because criticizing a government is different from criticizing a race.
This is something however that wumaos have trouble understanding, because their Nazi estate insists that [the-group-is-the-only-way], and that CCP equals China.
This does however highlight one of the fundamental dangers of any type of [censorship], including political correctness: what if you are criticizing something that is actually bad?
This amazing video was originally uploaded to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d81mEbL8Yw8 by [aaron-dewitt] on 2020-09-21 but it was down as of 2021-06-21. Last [wayback-machine] archive as of that date: 2020-11-03.
The video description was:
This is an exposé of racist companies that I worked for, some of which operate in the United States and Canada, all of which are headquartered in China.
In it, Aaron describes his experiences with the recruitment team of one of his former employers, an unnamed "Chinese ed-tech company in Beijing", for which he worked in human resources. In another also deleted video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6uFGGunRxc he mentions that he cannot mention the name of the company because he was under NDA.
Notably, in that video, he gives several screenshots of Google Sheets spreadsheets with explicitly racist reasons why people were not hired, one of which is reproduced here. Examples of such reasons include:
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"Skin color"
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"Non-Caucasian"
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"62-years old"
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"elderly"
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"Hispanic"
He mentions:
On the first day at this company, I had an orientation with my supervisor Ng, who is the head of the training department. She told me:
"We hire blacks. Obama black is OK. But no darker, or they’ll scare the kids. The kids will think they’re some kind of monster!"
which would lead parents to just go to a competitor instead. Then he mentions about the Google Sheets documents that:
They shared this document with the entire management team in Beijing, and everyone not only knew, but expected this discrimination to take place.
In the video he also explains how he once went to a 2 week holiday to Bali, and when he came back with his skin darker due to the tanning, he was reprimanded by a manager, who said that he could not work looking like that.
He explicitly mentions later the video that VIPKid, for which he did not work, is a similar company in nature, but not the one he is talking about.
Wikipedia mentions about VIPKid
Its online-classroom portal enables students to receive 25-minute English language lessons from fluent English-speaking teachers.
In March 2019, VIPKid fired two American teachers for discussing the 1989 [tiananmen] and Taiwan (Republic of China, **, 中華民國) with their students in China. Teachers have also reported witnessing child abuse when teaching lessons, but they found little recourse to report such issues.
As of 2021-05-05, the banner image of VIPKid’s website explicitly includes a token black person: https://web.archive.org/web/20210505045920/https://www.vipkid.com/, so their PR department clearly caught air of this. This is however only a frontend for hiring American teachers. The real Chinese client website https://www.vipkid.com.cn/, rest assured, contains no black people: (archive)
VIPKids had a 3 billion valuation in https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/21/chinas-vipkid-which-links-native-english-speakers-with-online-learners-raises-another-500m-reportedly-at-3b-valuation/
Wikipedia links as one of its sources to this 2019 article https://www.wired.com/story/when-online-teaching-job-becomes-window-child-abuse/ which mentions:
Of the dozens of companies vying to cash in on the tutoring business, it is by far the largest, having raised $825 million in investment capital since its founding. Other major players include Qkids, Magic Ears, DaDa, and Gogokid, all based in China.
so it is overwhelmingly likely that one of those is the one mentioned Aaron is talking about:
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Qkids
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Magic Ears
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DaDa
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Gogokid
Later in the video Aaron mentions that the company in question "basically went bankrupt".
He also mentions that he later worked for offcn, which is run by the Chinese Government, and they would absolutely not hire black people.
What matters is that citizens can disagree with those actions, publicly say it, vote accordingly, and not go to jail, so that policy will be changed if the majority so wants.
In China, the minority controls the majority, and the majority cannot say anything even if they disagree.
If the majority wants to do evil however, evil will get done, it is impossible to prevent that.
People from other countries don’t vote for your politicians in democracy. Therefore, democracies cannot protect them.
What democracy does do well is to reduce the chance that enough of the population will be brainwashed into starting war with other superpowers and destroy the world.
Do you really think China wouldn’t invade a country they need resources from because they are more humane?
[too-young-too-naive]. China is already invading its own citizens right now as of 2020 to obtain resources! [xinjiang-re-education-camps]. And it is using the exact same excuse as the American politicians: terrorism!
Even when the US invades another country, the people who support the US enemy can still pick up arms and fight. And Russia can send help if they want to annoy the Americans, making local resistance stand an actual chance. But when you oppress your own people, they are completely defenseless, and 100% certain to be fully oppressed, since no foreign country would risk world war 3 by sending help.
Do you really think that the CCP would give a fuck about invading other countries? And furthermore, China is specifically oppressing Islamic people in Xinjiang, exactly the same religion of people who live where? In the Middle East.
Xinjiang is China’s Middle East.
The reason the USA has invaded countries in the Middle east and China hasn’t yet is a mixture of:
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the USA is more developed, and has greater fuel needs, and greater capacity to carry such a war.
Although as we’ve seen, they’ve been essentially losing those wars quite often now, by not saying long enough to establish a new stable government.
Part of their defeat is also due to [russia], and increasingly China, helping the other side however.
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the Middle East is full of ************s, and ************s are natural allies of other ************s therefore it is more likely that they won’t invade one another.
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the Cold War is still fresh in the American mind. Oil is crucial to fight a war. Countries will do anything to survive, even if it means killing others.
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) is not saying that any of this justifies the actions of the Western powers in the Middle East. But simply that it has nothing to do with democracy or non-democracy.
See also:
5.8.2.4. Western democracies also censor subjects such as child porn and hate speech (西方**国家也审查儿童色情和仇恨言论等主题)
First, child porn and hate speech are also banned in China, so shut up. every type of speech is less free in Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a ************? (**不是**！).
Second, if you don’t think child porn should be banned, there isn’t much point in arguing with you.
Now, hate speech is a very complex subject. Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) does feel that we should be very careful when banning hate speech, and he is not sure if it should be banned at all, as perhaps it might just make matters worse.
But of course, there is also censorship in Western democracies, and there is a gray area between what should be censored or not.
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) only argues that there is on type of speech that must never ever be censored: political speech.
This way, the majority can always discuss and vote to change what can be censored or not.
In China, however, trying to discuss such changes in laws puts you in jail, so bad laws cannot be changed. This lack of freedom also gives the impression to many brainwashed Chinese that dicatorships are better because you see less conflict online. Which is great, until your human rights are violated, and you’ve got no one to talk to.
The lack of ability to discuss political problems leads to extremely serious problems:
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Democracies have less corruption than ************s (**国家的腐败比**国家少): politicians can censor anything bad that they did to stay in power
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Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (为什么**和言论自由会让**不太可能发动战争？): if the CCP leaders decide that a war must be made, everyone who opposes it will go to jail, and the war will be made
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Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities (大多数**人不关心少数民族): if the CCP decides that some minority is a danger to their power, this minority gets fucked
Deciding on hate speech, means having to decide what level of hardcoreness we are willing to accept, and there is no clear right or wrong answer.
For example, which of the following do you think should be banned:
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This scientific study suggests that white people do less well in IQ tests.
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This scientific study suggests that black people do less well in IQ tests.
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I’m an idiotic irrational racist and I dislike white/black people. I won’t kill them, but I dislike them, and I can’t change that, I’m really sorry.
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Let’s all gather together and kill our black/white/gay/straight/Muslim/Christian neighbours tomorrow.
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Let’s all gather together and kill our oppressive dictator/president tomorrow.
Ciro believes that none of the above should ever be censored, because any form of "hate-speech censorship" immediately opens a precedent for political censorship.
If someone is idiotic enough to organize illegal acts like hurting someone publicly before doing it, it will just make it easier for them to get caught.
And if its just empty words, just block those idiots to not see their posts, or downvotes their posts to reduce their impact.
And if the majority supports idiotic acts like killing someone because of their race, it will get done in a democracy regardless, because that’s what democracies do: they cater to what the majority wants.
There’s not point in censoring them. Such censorship only makes things worse, as the perpetrators will use that as publicity for their cause.
See also:
When a government controls all information to make it look good, and no one can challenge it, you cannot trust any of the news produced by that country, as anything could be fake.
It is much better to have some fake news, but also few sources that are likely telling the truth.
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) is also extremely critical of Western social media companies such as Twitter (推特) and Facebook which have censored "fake news" from real legitimate accounts or real people, which is a point that Trump has justly criticized in Ciro’s opinion.
If it is from a Chinese/Russian botnet, sure, destroy those accounts.
But from legitimate accounts of citizens? The people have to decide for themselves what is fake or real, not you, Twitter and Facebook. If the majority is made of idiots who believe in fake news, then so be it, that’s how democracy works.
Censoring any citizen, no matter how stupid you think they are, creates a precedent for ************, and even an incentive to terrorism.
More interesting case is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_First_Amendment_Institute_v._Trump. Ciro feels strongly that people who try to have meaningful discussions on Twitter should automatically lose a lawsuit, and that people should be able to block whoever they want from their personal controlled accounts or forums. It is only the companies who provide the forum service that must be neutral.
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Trump social media bans:
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2021-03-31 https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2021/03/31/conservatives-blast-facebook-for-removing-trump-interview-with-daughter-in-law/ "Conservatives Blast Facebook For Removing Trump Interview With Daughter-In-Law". This perfectly illustrates why it is unreasonable to ban someone from social media. You end up having to ban anyone who supports them as well.
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2021-01-09 https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/09/the-deplatforming-of-a-president/ "The deplatforming of President Trump" has an overview: Twitter permaban, Facebook indefinite time, Google store removed Parler from App Store, Apple store soon followed: https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/09/apple-suspend-parler-from-app-store/ [tiktok] censorehttps://techcrunch.com/2021/01/07/tiktok-bans-videos-of-trump-inciting-mob-blocks-stormthecapital-and-other-hashtags/ And Amazon announced a Parler block with 24 hours advance: https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/09/amazon-web-services-gives-parler-24-hour-notice-that-it-will-suspend-services-to-the-company/
All of those banning should not be done. If the people want to rebel, they must be allowed to communicate and rebel.
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2020-08 Kevin Cernekee fired from Google for conservative views
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2020-08-27 https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/06/google-whistleblower-cernekee-pushed-alt-right-views-former-colleague.html "Internal Google memo claimed conservative whistleblower promoted alt-right views"
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It appears to be legal in the US for companies to fire employees based on political beliefs:
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Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) however believes that discussing politics at work is not an efficient way to go about it, because you will be discussion amongst a small group of people since companies are opaque to the outside. Unless maybe if you feel that you employee is directly attempting to influence politics in a way that you feel is unfair.
Ciro believes without evidence that unfortunately anti-discrimination-hiring laws are likely inefficient, as it is too hard to convict anyone. And that providing equal education through scholarships to unprivileged groups and university entry selection where examiners cannot see the applicant’s race is the only way.
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YouTube
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2020-12-09 https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/9/22165355/youtube-biden-election-victory-misinformation-rules-remove-content-oan "YouTube will now remove videos disputing Joe Biden’s election victory".
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YouTube’s announcement: https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/supporting-the-2020-us-election
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2020-11-24 https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/24/youtube-suspends-and-demonetizes-one-america-news-network-over-covid-19-video/ "YouTube suspends and demonetizes One America News Network over COVID-19 video"
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Facebook
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2020-11-10 https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/09/parler-app-store-facebook/ "'Free speech' social network Parler tops app store rankings following Biden’s election win"
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2022-04 Elon Musk is trying to buy Twitterna, and will reverse some of that bullshit:
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2021-01-08 https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension.html "Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump" Archive of suspended account: https://archive.vn/SSHX6
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2020-10-06 https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/5/28/21273241/section-230-explained-trump-social-media-twitter-facebook "Section 230, the internet free speech law Trump wants to repeal, explained". While repealing the law entirely would be stupid, Trump is right that it has given platforms too much control over the media. Except for dictatorial foreign governments, or explicitly illegal material, social media platforms should never remove or comment on any content.
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2020-05-29 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52846679 Twitter "hides Trump tweet for 'glorifying violence'". The people elected that idiot, Twitter leftists have to swallow that.
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2021-01-11 https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40204808.html "Angela Merkel sees Twitter’s cancelling of Donald Trump as 'problematic'"
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Amazon
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Twitch 2021-04-07 https://techcrunch.com/2021/04/07/twitch-off-platform-harassment-policy/
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Minor:
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https://techcrunch.com/2021/04/30/basecamp-employees-quit-ceo-letter/ 2021-04-31 Basecamp sees mass employee exodus after CEO bans political discussions
YouTube:
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2021-10-07 https://techcrunch.com/2021/10/07/google-youtube-climate-change-denial-ban/ Google and YouTube say they won’t allow ads or monetized content pushing climate denial
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2021-09-29 https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/29/youtube-will-now-ban-content-with-vaccine-misinformation/ YouTube will now ban content with vaccine misinformation
Related: some Western [flag-desecration] censorship at [flag-desecration]
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) strongly believes that this is a problem with Wester social media. For example in Stack Overflow forbids criticizing the character of genocidal political leaders like Xi Jinping Stack Overflow forbade Ciro from saying:
I think Trump is disgusting as a person
because they thought Trump would become sad and cry.
Western governments should pass laws that prevent this kind of arbitrary political censorship by companies.
But of course as usual: censorship in a ************ like China is always a million times worse.
Exactly! And this is something Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) fights daily against through his open source contributions.
And politicians don’t really care enough. Partially because:
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the poor don’t have access to proper education and vote less often
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corporations pay for their election campaigns
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many of the politicians are rich themselves
But do you really think that further increasing the power concentration as done is China is going to help reduce inequality?
If so, you have been brainwashed beyond reason. Increasing the concentration of power will obviously make society even more unequal and corrupt, never less.
This movie was almost banned in Britain at the time due to lobbying by Christian groups as shown in The secret Life of Brian (2007).
Key scenes:
Censoring anyone who says "my president is shit", which is what China does, is much, much more serious than censoring intelligence leaks.
The problem with ************s, is that they make every information that makes them look bad a "state secret". Including any information that hundreds of thousands of people have witnessed, or economic performance metrics! See also: [internal-censorship].
The level of unknown surveillance that Snowden uncovered is a bad thing about the US.
Snowden’s prosecution was inevitable. Countries need secret services. Secret services need laws that prevent leaking classified information that was produced by government officials.
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) has never and will never criticize China or any other country for spying or prosecuting spies.
If Snowden were Chinese, the Chinese government would ban talking about him or anything he uncovered. A keyword attack with "Snowden" in the West has no effect.
It is obvious that the level of surveillance in any ************ will be infinitely higher, since the Government has much more power and no-one can criticize.
On the West however, the debate Snowden sparked cannot be censored, and has helped to control excessive and secret state power.
Ultimately, Ciro thinks camera surveillance is somewhat inevitable, because people will always want to fight crime and terrorism and surveillance technology keeps getting cheaper and cheaper.
He is however strictly against the ban of cryptography.
He also believes that a good solution to balance out government power is the Second amendment (美國憲法第二修正案). It is better to have more school shootings and less full-blown ************ led genocides / mass human rights violations.
In 2019 China amusingly censored passages Snowden’s "Permanent Record" autobiography book, which Snowden then published on Twitter:
As a Redditor put it:
I don’t think they understand that what Snowden stands for is completely the opposite of what the Chinese gov is lol
Snowden then later released the entire Chinese version of the book for free online with the censored parts underlined: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/10/snowden_china_censorship (archive), link to the book: https://a.temporaryrecord.com/Permanent_Record_-_CN_edition_with_underlined_redactions.pdf (archive). One wonders why he didn’t just do that in the first place for all versions, maybe he needed to pay the writer that helped him?
https://youtu.be/MhJldILZhJ8?t=138 "A matter of internal security: the age old cry of the oppressor". Picard, Star Trek: The Next Generation s03e11 "The Hunted". video::MhJldILZhJ8[youtube,height=400,width=600,time=138]
E.g.: September 11th.
Bad things have been done in the name of anything.
Democracies cannot necessarily protect weak countries from powerful ones either. No political system can do that, because humans are trash essentially.
What democracy do is to protect its own people against its own government. Because when the government turns against part of the population in a ************, that part of the population gets crushed entirely, without any chance to fight, because they don’t have an army or ally countries like other countries do.
Here are some images that [wumao]'s like to post:
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Left Right Slaughterhouse comic: https://9gag.com/gag/ayn7KmW?ref=fbp
Obviously not, just inefficient and dangerous.
It is just another non-democratic empire like the [qing-dynasty], we might as well cal it:
共产朝
The Communist Dynasty
Expression previously mentioned at: https://web.archive.org/web/20161025220242/http://tieba.baidu.com/p/752094668
Like any other organization and individual everywhere in the entire world, they are just doing everything that they can to maintain their own power.
It just happens that China’s the current is political system allows the CCP to do really bad things.
And it should also be noted that it is in part the West’s fault that China currently has this shitty system.
[falun-gong] thinks otherwise of course, they think the CCP is actually made up of real actual devils in some dimension: [does-ciro-santilli-believe-in-or-practice-falun-gong]. E.g. on the https://endccp.com/ Falun Gong lead campaign:
The demon CCP has plundered the ancient land of China
Sometimes people say Ciro Santilli is naive.
Politicians are the same all over the world.
Some might have good intentions, but most don’t give a shit about anyone else.
But all must play a careful political game, and sometimes betray their own beliefs to not lose power entirely.
Even those that genuinely care might have to play such political games.
China’s problem is not its politicians.
It’s the current shitty political organization, which allows/convinces those politicians to do really bad things: Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (为什么**和言论自由能够让**变得更加富有？), Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (为什么**和言论自由会让**不太可能发动战争？) and Democracies have less corruption than ************s (**国家的腐败比**国家少).
Western politicians don’t care about the people either: Western society is extremely unequal (西方社会极度不平等). But at least they have to pretend a little.
By John Kenneth Galbraith, possibly based on an earlier [soviet-union] joke https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ocasio-cortez-capitalism-quote/:
Under capitalism, man oppresses man. Under socialism, it’s just the opposite.
The term evil does not make sense unless you are religious.
The best definition of evil is a psychopath with zero empathy for anyone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy although this can be better characterized as a disease or extreme personality trait.
The huge majority of those politicians are just regular dudes with a knack for politics but brought up in a fucked up political situation.
Just like you, Ciro Santilli and other politicians in any country.
See also: [politicians].
The more Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) learns about the Nazis, the more similar they CCP looks to them. As of 2020, the [ccp] is much more like Nazi Germany than it is like the [soviet-union].
Both CCP and Nazis share the same basic core ideology: capitalism, love your country/leader mindlessly, work hard, throw any dissidents under the bus, and everyone will become richer (except the dissidents who will be in jail or dead).
Thankfully, the CCP is possibly less bad as of 2020 it has less of "this minority (Jews) is the cause of all our problems/racial supremacy approach". But everything else, and arguably the key points that got most German people on-board in the first place, are so similar, that it has to raise huge red flags.
We must however be careful not to demonize the Nazis, as that is not a helpful way to learn from the past.
The Nazis were also people like us, and that is the scary thing we must never forget, thus we should never fall for:
Notably, it can be argued that the Nazis did bring economic growth and stability to Germany, which the people desperately needed, see also Goring’s appearance on the Nuremberg trials.
Keywords:
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Xitler (习特勒). 习 "xi2" is very close in sound to the Chinese name of Hitler: 希特勒 (xi1 te4 le4)
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Chinazi (赤纳粹 Chi Na Cui). TODO why 赤. Means Red, which is a reference to Communism, although red was of course it was also the color of the original Nazis. But where else is it used? Chi is also chosen to achieve the sound "Chi Na" as a variant of Shina (zhina, 支那)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_qOvU_-61o John Heartfield describes the anti-Nazi propaganda of John Heartfield
Articles:
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http://yashalong.blog.caixin.com/archives/188877 这么好的人民，不倒点霉都对不起他们 "These are such good people, if they have a bit of bad luck, excuse them." article by yashalong 押沙龙 published on [caixin]. The article discusses how Nazi Germany propaganda worked, without mention to the CCP, but it was still apparently banned in China.
https://www.southbankresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2020/01/ZHA-issue-2510-free.pdf has a good quote:
Would you have stood up to Hitler when he came to power? Or would you have been an appeaser, like Chamberlain? Or perhaps even a supporter of fascism, like the Daily Mail’s owner at the time?
We all like to imagine we’re courageous enough to stand up to tyranny and persecution. That we would have stood up to the villains of the past. Seen them for what they really were, even helped rescue their victims from danger. We certainly don’t like to think we would have bought their goods or funded, invested in their economies…
Well today, you’re going to find out what you’re made of.
TODO some failed attempts at ASCII art flags:
卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐卐卐卐卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐卐卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐
We have to make a [xi-jinping] version of this!!!
There’s even an Uncencyclopedia page for it.
We have to do a Chinese version. A starting point:
近平，只有一只蛋 泽东，还好有一个半 泽民， 小平，
As mentioned at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reich&oldid=1054809270#During_the_Nazi_period a popular way of referring to the Nazi rule was as the:
Thousand-Year Reich
In China, a popoular expression for "Long Live" is "**", which means "live for ten thousand years".
This comes from old Imperial times, but applies perfectly to the Nazi/CCP analogy.
Neo-Nazis thought they might be the ones. Skinhead newbs. China beat them to it by a mile.
TODO memes?? Only one image here: https://www.techinasia.com/qihoo-acquistion-updates-sogou-talks-confirmed-chukong-rumors-denied but we need more, e.g. several top commies with Borg photoshop, or even better something showing the people as borgs as well.
Notable mentions:
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2019 https://ihare.org/2019/08/07/when-will-the-borg-assimilate-hong-kong-is-resistance-futile/ When Will the Borg Assimilate Hong Kong?: Is Resistance Futile?
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2018 https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/a-real-borg-collective-xi-jinpings-china-is-americas-defining-challenge-in-2019 A real Borg collective, Xi Jinping’s China is America’s defining challenge in 2019
So, have you reached the conclusion that your shitpost is worth the risk of getting blocked?
Remember that shitposts can also be creative: if you are going to insult Ciro Santilli, at least do it in a creative way, or else you look like an even bigger idiot than you really are.
A collection of shitposts for you to take inspiration from can be found at: https://github.com/************/china-************/issues?q=label%3Ashitpost+
Also, when opening a shitpost you may mark it clearly such with the shitpost issue template which automatically assigns the shitpost label. Doing so will make you look like less of an idiot.
While we require polite replies to polite posts, no matter what which side they are defending, if a post is marked as a shitpost, things are much more relaxed and fun, and you can generally get away with telling the OP to fuck themselves without getting blocked.
Feel free to do that, but no one will ever read most of it.
If you want your comment to be read, choose your key point well, and deliver it.
It is a shame that most people who are ever able to do that are shitposters, but credit where credit is due.
If you don’t know English well enough, that’s fine though, go for Chinese, Ciro Santilli will likely understand it: Does Ciro Santilli speak Chinese? (***会说中文吗？).
But if you do, use English.
Ciro is not going to learn Chinese because of your message.
It is more productive for you to write in English, so that the rest of the West can also learn something new.
Especially since it seems that most Chinese already know what you are talking about, so you are better off teaching Western people about it.
Obviously, if you want to be understood, use simple and standard Chinese, since as Ciro has already stated clearly, his Chinese sucks: Does Ciro Santilli speak Chinese? (***会说中文吗？).
Avoid slangs, otherwise Ciro might not have patience to Google your useless slangs down Zhihu questions.
Of course, if you have to read this, you likely are not going to say anything useful in the first place, so not reading your post is likely fine, just make sure to mark it as a I want to take my chances and make a shitpost in ************/china-************ (屎帖子) if you don’t want Ciro to think you are a complete idiot.
Using slangs makes some people feel smart due their advanced knowledge of a specific subculture, or makes them feel part of that subculture to gather allies. I.e., it is a form of shibboleth. It mainly comes down to a way of avoiding any rational conversation about China’s obvious problems by highlighting Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (外国人不应该干预**政治).
Or maybe they just want to waste Ciro’s time.
Such idiots don’t see however that every major slang is Googleable, and that every overly obscure slang is already not understandable by a large part of the Chinese population, and won’t be understood by anybody in 5 years, so that you are wasting your time writing this gibberish. But since you are an idiot, it’s not like you have anything better to do with your time, so maybe it doesn’t matter.
If you want to efficiently prevent anyone from understanding your stuff, Ciro recommends that you just use SHA-256 instead:
$ printf 'heil xi' | sha256sum 286b183bf41d6c9de5315bbd64f1ca35a58157ae2e7f38086978c108e67c4882 -
A Chinese insult tip 101, avoid similar sound euphemisms. If you are going to say shit at least grow some balls or tits and use the proper characters, Ciro will respect you more for it:
Places to try and decrypt Internet slang when you feel like wasting your time:
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https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/**大陆网络用语列表
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"网络用语" is the most common word for "Internet Slang", so also useful for Google searches
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Random slangs of interest and related concepts:
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火星文 (Martian language). This figures for example in the language rules of the PTT Bulletin Board System (Taiwanese message board, 批踢踢實業坊) joke board: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/joke/M.1602005687.A.E4D.html (禁止使用簡體字、注音文、火星文、外國語言或其他無法直觀理解之內容作為文章主體).
Some useful slangs seen on the wild:
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敏感瓷: 敏感词 sensitive words, phonetic approximation
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猎狗: lit. hunting dog. Metaphorically: lackey, a servent of someone else, usually evil. Usually as in: Is Ciro Santilli’s china-************ campaign funded or otherwise supported by some organization? 谁收买***散布关于**的谣言？, e.g. 国的狗 #914. This sense is mentioned e.g. at http://cidian.118cha.com/1872420.html which includes two 20th century usage examples.
GitHub issue label: https://github.com/************/china-************/issues?q=label%3Ai-know-slangs-i-smart+
In other sections:
Basically a 2 character slang for [hurt-the-feelings-of-the-chinese-people] which cool people in the web use:
The pardox is: as soon as you start talking about ruhua, you start to risk getting banned in China, because most of ruhua is banned in China itself.
In this project for example: https://github.com/leiroc/insults the author is aiming to create a list of such insults. So someone came and suggested adding this project to the list at: https://github.com/leiroc/insults/issues/4, which is obviouly censored in China, as an example. They even have an [icp-license] at https://insults.cn/, isn’t that cute?
To which the repo owner replied:
感谢提交，这个人有点疯狂了。我就不给加到记录里面了，因为加进去，看到的人就会更加多。对于这些信息不是所有人都有分别真伪的能力。害怕有些人信了他的，或者被他诱导。所以还是让他消声少曝光的好，这些人国家肯定一直在监控的，我们可以放心。
Google Translate:
Thanks for submitting, this person is a bit crazy. I won’t add it to the record, because if you add it, you will see more people. Not everyone has the ability to distinguish between authenticity and falsehood for this information. I’m afraid that some people will believe him or be induced by him. Therefore, it is better to silence him and reduce exposure. These people and countries must have been monitoring them, so we can rest assured.
This perfecly shows the ruhua paradox. In the end, you are only allowed to talk about the most idiotic and insipid events, while censoring any serious self criticism.
The Chinese masses are still uneducated, and not fit for free speech and democracy **大众愚昧，不能好好选领导 also comes to mind.
TODO the README says that it is a static blog, but I can’t find the source on GitHub anywhere, that repo contains almost nothing.
The large majority of posts are about Western companies that comply with Chinese censorship requests (遵守**审查要求的西方公司), because those cowards retract their claims afterwards.
Some sample posts that are not about Western companies:
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https://insults.cn/posts/4747/ NBA**事件是怎么回事？NBA莫雷**事件！ (What happened to the NBA insult to China? NBA Morey insulting China incident!) about [lebron-james-opposes-hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019]
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https://insults.cn/posts/60695/ 如何判断一个老外夸**，是发自真心，还是财富密码？ (How to judge whether a foreigner praises China from his sincerity or the code of wealth?) is about [ccp-apologists]
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https://insults.cn/posts/64035/ 卖国求荣许秀中个人简历：留学生中的败类！汉奸中的“佼佼者”！西方媒体眼中的“宝藏女孩”！ is about [vicky-xu]
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https://insults.cn/posts/65025/ notepad++**事件：作者Don HO在推特上公开发表**言论 (Notepad++ insulting China incident: author Don HO publicly published insulting remarks on Twitter) about Notepad++
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https://insults.cn/posts/64915/ 无脑黑**，孙向文漫画**是为了自己要入日本籍，但他至今仍没有如愿 is about [sun-xiangwen]
Derogatory or humorous way to refer China. Occurrences:
A variant sound "Chi Na" is also seen at Chinazi (赤纳粹) from Comparisons between the CCP and Nazi Germany (纳粹德国和**长得很想).
https://newrepublic.com/article/117608/chinese-number-websites-secret-meaning-urls highlights how numeric emails and URLs are especially popular in China, in part due to the ASCII/West-centrism of web standards: https://www.quora.com/What-is-126-com-and-why-are-they-the-owner-of-millions-of-good-domain-names/answer/Ciro-Santilli
Examples in this page:
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[nine-nine-six-icu] is an example that is not phonetic, but just about meaning
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** used to refer to [tiananmen]
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https://www.12321.cn/web and http://12377.cn from [cac-report-website] are likely examples where older well known official phone numbers were just directly converted to URLs
Bibliography:
Not as of 2019, he has only visited once in 2012, and it was amazingly beautiful.
But he doesn’t think it is a good idea for him to do that now, in case his Visa got accepted, because he is not interested in learning about the Chinese jail system! :-)
He knows that if you don’t mind contributing to making WW3 deadlier and shut up and obey the CCP, China is already a fine place to live as much as any other developing country.
If the ************ ends, Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) would like to migrate to China if given a decent job to help China develop and become awesomer.
Before the ************, Ciro likely won’t be able to enter/it wouldn’t be a good idea: Would Ciro Santilli be able to visit China before the CCP ends? (***能否在**结束之前访问**？).
And it is immoral to help make ************s richer by working for their companies: What should Western countries do about China? (西方国家应该怎么对待**？).
It would be interesting to apply for a VISA to find out.
But Ciro won’t do it because it is too risky that it would be a waste of Ciro’s precious time and money.
Firstly, Jamal Khashoggi taught us that walking into enemy into consulates of enemy countries is a bad idea.
Then, even if the VISA were accepted, Ciro could still be turned back on entering the country, thus wasting the flight time and money. This could either be a genius plot to waste the money of enemies of the state, or due to a crappy divided IT system between the border control and the VISA people.
Finally, even after the border, there is still the possibility that Ciro could be stopped in the country half-way through the visit and sent back, or be interrogated for a few days, or less likely murdered with poison.
Therefore, if you think that living in China is fundamental to understand it, please just explain what you think one can learn from the experience instead. Do you really need to live there to see its censorship machine working? It would arguably be harder to see it from the inside.
See also: What should pro-democracy Chinese living in China do about the ************? 想要**住在**大陆的人应该干什么？.
Bibliography: #93
It makes Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) smile when wumaos consider he might be Chinese.
Does "Ciro Santilli" sound like a Chinese name?
Would a Chinese person write this tutorial primarly in English?
Would a Chinese person speak such obviously shit Chinese?
Think, wumao, think!!!
And it does not matter: Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (外国人不应该干预**政治).
But his wife is.
As of 2019, oral enough for daily things, but not understand most natural casual dinner conversation or watch TV series, because they go too quickly into vocabulary subject areas that he doesn’t know. And obviously, using slangs just makes things really hard.
When it matters, and with some patience, he can make himself understood though with some analogies (archive) and a dictionary.
From the HSK vocabulary list, he estimates that he is definitely HSK 3, but not quite HSK 4. This would likely equate A2/B1 in the European system.
Phonetics wise, Ciro can’t distinguish or produce a few sounds, notably -ing vs -in and his off-tone rate is high, but it tends to not matter at all compared to his lack of vocabulary. Except for his mother-in-law, who sometimes does not understand it at all without correct tones!
Ciro reads with https://github.com/cschiller/zhongwen after Perapera died when he wants to learn new words/has patience/something is very important, and can basically understand everything in that way. TODO perapera support stopped in 2021: https://www.perapera.org/plugins/ and since browsers don’t have stable API’s it very quickly stopped working for everyone. Alternatives asked at: https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/78268/on-mouse-hover-pop-up-chinese-dictionary-browser-extension-alternative-to-perape/ Zhongwen worked, source at https://github.com/cschiller/zhongwen
When he has no patience or for larger not very important chunks of text though, he reads with Google Translate as it tends to work, and then if there is an important sentence that was translated to garbage with Perapera.
Ciro writes with a mixture of Pleco, Google translate and Googling to see if Chinese actually say the sentences that way, never Google translate alone as it would be too imprecise.
Ciro really wishes he could learn more Chinese. Ciro really loves the Chinese language. But he has other more important endeavors at the moment. There simply aren’t enough hours in a day.
Spoken Chinese is in Ciro’s opinion a relatively easy language to learn from scratch, because word formation is so often logical:, e.g.:
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volcano = fire + mountain: 火山(huo shan)
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train = fire + car: 火车 (huo che), a reference to old steam locomotives
and there is no useless crap like verb grammatical conjugation, grammatical gender, plural inflection, capitalization, etc. (latino sine flexione anyone?)
Ciro hasn’t tried to learn characters because too much effort, but he did learn some of the most common ones without trying.
Ciro initially learnt from book that come with audio recordings in the first 6-months to 1 year in 2010, but that got impossibly boring afterward, so he later moved to just basically talking as much as possible non-important things to his wife in Chinese, and whenever he reaches one that he doesn’t know that seems useful, he Plecos it up or just 怎么说 to his Ciro Santilli’s wife (***的老婆) and then Pleco.
It should also be mentioned that Ciro also feels that it would be better if all countries more officially adopted English as an international language that everyone should learn for reasons explained at: https://************.com/having-more-than-one-natural-language-is-bad-for-the-world
Maybe the commies for once did something good by introducing simplified Chinese characters (简化字)?
But they should have gone further and reduced it to pinyin like the Korean and Vietnamese did, this will make your culture much easier to export.
No foreign adult will every learn to read and write Chinese unless they are completely obsessed by the culture or need it as part of their jobs. And even then, they will avoid it at all costs, because life is just too short!
Japanese furigana also comes to mind. The characters are so insane that you need to a well specified and widely used phonetic reading aid, especially for teenagers, but likely not only in case of rarer characters! There’s even an HTML tag for that for God’s sake: the HTML Ruby tag.
Yes, ideograms are:
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vertical text (纵排) is beautiful.
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the top to bottom aspect is obviously due to the binding of bamboo and wooden slips (简牍)
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TODO but why right to left? Left to right makes more sense as you don’t put your hand on top of the most recent ink: https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Chinese-characters-individually-written-from-left-to-right-yet-in-ancient-times-sentences-of-Chinese-characters-were-written-and-read-from-right-to-left
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_and_vertical_writing_in_East_Asian_scripts#Right-to-left_horizontal_writing also clarifies that traditional shop signs are also right to left, and it is just a sub-case of the usual right to left script, but with a single row
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more historically stable, and you can still read/learn more or less quickly to read texts written more than two thousand years ago
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it takes up way less horizontal space as Ciro noticed while adding bilingual captions to some of the images under https://gitlab.com/************/china-************-media see e.g.: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/************/china-************-media/master/Xidan_Wall.jpg
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on the other hand, you have to use slightly larger fonts for Chinese, because the characters are so dense that if they are not tall enough they become unreadable. Still, the area is much smaller without a doubt.
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single character emoticons like "囧", before the Emoticons Unicode block! Yes, when your language has a character so useless that it becomes an emoticon, maybe you should start to worry that something went wrong somewhere… See also [tank-man-emoticon].
but they just take too much time for any sane person adult to learn, it’s harder than C++!
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) smirked when he came across the character "蒄" in Pleco, and the translation was: "meaning unknown (herb mentioned in old books)". Yes, at the word level, the same like exists in phonetic systems, but that it takes up a modern dictionary and Unicode slot is still funny.
He also smiles very broadly whenever his wife finds a character she doesn’t remember. Or when she spends 20 seconds tabbing to find the correct character for some Proper name she wants to type in pinyin. It feels good to be right.
Posts that express similar ideas:
Seals are also of course top to bottom right to left as in the traditional texts.
Ciro’s Does Ciro Santilli speak Chinese? (***会说中文吗？) was mentioned in a related Zhihu answer: Answer to the Zhihu question "How do you evaluate Ted Chiang’s 'Evil Chinese Characters' essay?" "如何评价姜峯楠（Ted Chiang）在纽约客上的随笔《坏汉字》？"的回答.
Saying that someone is a radical is useless Ad hominem (訴諸人身).
If you want to say something useful, give specific reasons why you think one specific thing that Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) said is incorrect.
Do you consider him a radical because it is unthinkable that China is not perfect?
Or just because he’s trying to take down some more websites that your ************ still does not dislike enough to block: China is fine as it is, stop making it worse (**很好，别让它变得更糟)?
Don’t you think that it is much more radical to be put in jail for your beliefs and silenced if you disagree with anything the government says?
Ciro doesn’t think either China or West is perfect: [western-media-has-exaggerated-reports-on-falun-gong-for-propaganda-reasons].
He’s just listing arguments why he thinks democracy is better, e.g.: Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (为什么**和言论自由能够让**变得更加富有？), Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (为什么**和言论自由会让**不太可能发动战争？).
See also:
And Ciro never gets mad. Only a slightly sad or annoyed sometimes.
But maybe no radical ever considers themselves a radical? Hmmm…
D E E P:
you-are-stupid-argument
Feel free to publish any proof of your own incredible intelligence.
SJW: there is a seed of SJW in Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的).
One major difference between Ciro and the stereotypical SJW is that he never engage in lengthy discussions as per Ciro Santilli’s reply policy (***的回答政策).
He limits himself to listening as much as he can to learn new arguments.
So the rationale of his actions is no_ to convince anyone, but rather:
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increase the monetary cost of censorship by binding politics to tech with Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击)
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group up like-minded people who don’t like [censorship]
See also: Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed (***对**成见很深，无法改变)
On the contrary. China has his favorite:
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history
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nature
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culture, notably:
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intense respect for older people. Whenever Ciro was with his mother-in-law and asked for help from young Chinese people, they were extremely nice.
It is hard to understand how the same people have not managed to speak up when 70 million old ladies were put into jail when Falun Gong was banned. Only the extreme fear of also going to jail could explain it. Living in China is living in constant fear if you can think for yourself.
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enormous importance given to education. One must not forget however: grades are useless, and all that matters is how much you improve society
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And because of that: Would Ciro Santilli like to live in China? (***想住在**吗？).
As Bjarne said:
There are only two kinds of programming languages: those people always bitch about and those nobody uses
Ciro only focus here on negative things to provide content that will activate the Great Firewall.
A small poem:
持华反党
爱国恨党Support the Chinese people, oppose the Party
Love the country, hate the Party
The second sentence well known: https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/e8g3qv/爱国恨党love_china_hate_ccp/
This is actually a key cult characteristic: [the-group-is-the-only-way].
Do all Chinese citizens support the CCP?
If you are against Trump or Biden, does it mean that you are against the USA? So every American is against the USA?
This is what ************s want you to believe.
See also: [museum].
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) does not believe in reincarnation, but sometimes he’s tempted to.
It is interesting how different people get different impressions!
Of course, the fact that his wife is Chinese and does Falun Gong may or may not have played a role in it :-)
It was like this: Ciro started getting interested in Chinese culture, then he started hanging out with Chinese people, and then he started hanging out with his wife!
So yes, it is a chicken and egg type of thing. The fact that she is one of the most intelligent, morally upright, cute, and "never give up" person I know may have helped me choose too.
See also:
No, he am a selfless human being, only concerned with the greater well being of humankind.
More serious answer:
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he believes in this. As evidence, it has limiting effects on his technological career: Does your employer support this project? (你的雇主支持此项目吗？), and he doesn’t think he can/wants to become a politician in China if the CCP ever falls
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the more famous Ciro is, the more impact he will have in the future
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the more famous Ciro is, the more feedback he have that what he’s been doing has been working
Keyword: attention whore.
Duplicate pool:
5.12.8.2. Ciro Santilli is doing his China freedom campaign to vent off his anger (***正在进行他的**自由运动以发泄他的愤怒)
No, he is not angry at all, see also: Does Ciro Santilli want to harm the Chinese programmers? ***想要伤害**程序员吗？.
5.12.8.3. Is Ciro Santilli’s china-************ campaign funded or otherwise supported by some organization? 谁收买***散布关于**的谣言？
Sure, the CIA sends Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) 10 thousand USD checks from time to time, but that doesn’t change at all what he would be doing.
And sometimes the NSA, FBI, MI6, MI5, Mossad, Al-Qaeda and ISIS also pitch in a bit depending on their needs.
Just kidding.
A shady supporting organization might require that he does not disclose their support, so maybe the best answer is that you will never know for sure.
Of course, a hidden support would represent a reputation hit for both such organizations and for Ciro, which makes it less likely that I would have accepted or had such an offer.
Also consider Ciro’s motivation. If your mother in law were put into jail unfairly for 15 days, for following the same religion that your wife follows, and if you had a social media presence, wouldn’t you be tempted to do the same?
What about you, are you funded by the CCP?
The fact that Ciro Santilli is obviously a real full time software engineer based on his open source contributions, and so does not need government funding, is perhaps the single greatest advantage of not having carried this campaign anonymously:
It’s nothing world breaking, but it is at a level where it simply cannot be faked.
5.12.9. Would Ciro Santilli be doing his China freedom campaign if he was in China? (如果他在**，***会做他的**自由运动吗？)
Not with his real name attached to it, see also:
My employer has nothing to do with this.
He doesn’t approve or disapprove of the Chinese government or of my private actions.
The only thing that my employer does believe in is that employees can have their own political opinions, and that this should not affect hiring decisions.
Obviously, this action limits my ability to lead high profile deals with China.
Also I’m quite curious if this would limit my ability to go to China for business, but I haven’t applied for a visa since I’ve started this. It likely wouldn’t be a good idea for me to go to China :-)
But my employer believes that inclusion and non-discrimination are more valuable.
I will always do my best to not let my personal opinions affect my professional decisions, as that would be unfair to my employer.
5.12.10. Doesn’t Ciro Santilli have anything better to do than pissing off China? (除了反对**以外，***有没有别的更好的事儿要作吗？)
In 1989, besides [tiananmen] and Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的)'s birth, a beautiful thing called the World Wide Web was invented!
The Internet gives everyone the magic power of writing something, and having million people read it for free!
This is how much time Ciro spends on this project to give you an idea:
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every day or two, some wumao or anti-CCP person sends a message, to which Ciro replies, and sometimes does an update
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Ciro used to check https://www.reddit.com/r/China daily amongst many other programming subs, and all major bad news show up there. See also: Anti-CCP information sources (反**信息来源). But he stopped in 2022, even that was not worth the time.
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when something bad enough comes up, Ciro might spend some time updating his keyword attack. He used to check https://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/sensitive-words-series/ by [china-digital-times], to help, but hasn’t needed mor recently. He’s only been updating it on Stack Overflow and GitHub attacks these days.
Then Ciro just contributes to programming websites exactly as he would if he weren’t making this campaign, and voila.
What has happened more and more is that Ciro has been expanding resources by short burst rather than continuously. This began especially at the end of 2019 and start of 2020 was such as hot year with [hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019] and Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查).
But Ciro only works on this when his brain was too tired of technical stuff and unable to do more, or as a brain warm up routine in the morning. So it doesn’t take any work time away from him.
Telling the CCP to fuck off is surprisingly relaxing, you should try it some time too. It uses a different part of your brain other than the programming one. It is, one could say, an art form.
5.12.11. Is Ciro Santilli against Communism/Socialism in general or just against the Chinese Communist Party specifically? Ciro Santilli 是普遍反对共产主义/社会主义还是专门反对**共产党？
Anti-************ and censorship, not anti-communist in general. In this project, Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) has sometimes used the word "communist/commie" loosely as a shortcut for "supporter of the CCP", but it does not extend by default to communism in general.
Most importantly, China is far from being socialist or communist. It is just a ************ with savage capitalism. Exactly like Nazi Germany.
It is true that the CCP takes greater control of corporations, as shown e.g. in the Tech Crackdown of 2021, which is also something Ciro Santilli has asked for in the West, see also: https://************.com/governments-have-lost-all-power-to-companies
But to call it communist or socialist is a joke. There are no big specific benefits to citizens that are not already present in capitalist countries. It is nothing like the Soviet Union, where people had actual job guarantees, and everything provieded for (in theory).
And Ciro has a fundamental and irrational belief that we should not violate human rights to reach those goals, which is why he opposes the CCP (and others who violate human rights).
Also, being in a ************ is very risky business, see: Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities (大多数**人不关心少数民族), ************s have greater development variability (专政具有更大的发展可变性).
And there are concrete advantages to ************s.
Classify Ciro’s techno-political goals as you will:
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endgame: https://************.com/unconditional-basic-income
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very conservative and clearly sustainable neargame: https://************.com/free-gifted-education
A possible way to get closer to either: https://************.com/electronic-voting
Anything in between however, he’s not sure about.
OK, shall we put that to an anonymous vote just to make sure?
Dear sir or madam: do you want more control over your government? y/n
Oops, I forgot that proposing such a vote would put in you jail, never mind.
In an ideal world, Ciro Santilli is of course "against violence".
But what if you could prevent a lot of future violence with some violence today?
Ah, the eternal question which only God can answer:
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https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-origin-of-the-quote-The-end-justifies-the-means "What is the origin of the quote 'The end justifies the means?'"
Do you really think that the communists will step down if you ask them nicely enough? Even after [tiananmen]?
A quote from V for Vendetta (2005) comes to mind:
Q: If they do, what do you think will happen [the people protest against their Government]?
A: What usually happens when people without guns stand up to people with guns.
How do you think the CCP or any other party got into power and maintained that power in the first place? Obviously through violence. And likely due to earlier Japanese invasions which weakened the Guomindang.
And the CCP actually uses "the ends justify the means" as an argument to justify its own actions: As long as China is developing economically, it is fine to violate the human rights of a few million people (只要经济好，我不在乎人权).
The question of if anything is morally right or wrong makes no sense. All that matters is: what is the government that maximizes the happines of its own people, and who has the power to do what? Getting richer, is part of the equation, but so is not being constantly affraid that you will be randomly put in jail for no good reason.
If you do decide to strike though, stay safe, gather your forces on the Internet, and only strike when victory seems certain.
For "violence is illegal" arguments, see also: [follow-the-law].
If China had the second amendment in 1989, the [ccp] would not be in power in 1990.
The availability of guns however only explains part of the problem of gun violence in the USA: the other huge thing that must be addressed is to reduce inequality.
A somewhat popular [wumao] criticism of gun violence in the USA (+ other problems) in song/poem form was brought up at #215
歌颂美国
自由美利坚，
枪击每一天；
白恨黑卑微，
黑仇黄有钱。
世界第一强，
川普再号强；
新冠启示录，
群体免疫法；
比强还更强，
世界一病夫。
如今五十万，
耶稣爱美国，
与民天国欢。
人命如草芥，
不及股市贵；
战火连中东，
此乃真**。
Related discussions:
TODO origin?
Ciro is using the word in an slightly extended/joking sense.
Maybe "authoritarian" is a more precise term, but it is just too much of a mouthful.
In particular, ************s are harder to sustain than authoritarianism, since it generally implies even less freedom, and a single leader whose death can destabilize everything.
The CCP is more like a social class with a large number of members and various sub-layers, and it is therefore much harder to take down on the other hand.
************ is becoming more and more precise under Xi however.
Even [mao-zedong] admits it and put it into the constitution: People’s democratic ************ 人民**专政, so funny.
Well known Evil Western media that also call China a ************:
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2020-01-29 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/29/opinion/coronavirus-china-government.html "Coronavirus Spreads, and the World Pays for China’s ************"
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2018-03-04 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/04/xi-jinping-from-president-to-china-new-dictator "Xi Jinping’s power play: from president to China’s new dictator?"
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2017-10-11 https://www.ft.com/content/cb2c8578-adb4-11e7-aab9-abaa44b1e130 "Under Xi Jinping, China is turning back to ************"
Further discussions about this useless terminology question:
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List of blacklisted keywords in China
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[china-digital-times] This is was an amazing source, extremely comprehensive and up-to-date, but the series was stopped in September 2018:
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https://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/word-of-the-week/?view=all word of the week, ran from Mar 7, 2012 to Sep 20, 2018
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https://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/cdt-censorship-digest/ "CDT CENSORSHIP DIGEST", monthly version of Word of the week started on Feb 10, 2020
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https://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/directives-from-the-ministry-of-truth/?view=all censorship directive reports
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https://chinadigitaltimes.net/space/Main_Page a wiki version of the censored word lists, the ,"Grass-mud horse index" (cao3n2ma3 草泥马), with a censored term of the week section.
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https://chinadigitaltimes.net/china/sensitive-words-series/?view=all sensitive words list
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Fun 2015 ebook: https://github.com/************/decoding-chinese-internet-pdf-download
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Has received funding from US Government to some extent: https://www.ned.org/china-digital-times-provides-crucial-insight-and-information-about-china-and-the-covid-19/
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See also:
I haven’t counted, but the limit for Stack Overflow is quite low, and I’m always almost at the maximum, which is about "Ciro Santilli" + 3 3-4 Chinese character events with a separator.
These are some of my prioritization guidelines:
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recent cases receive a large prime over the raw death toll, because older cases can always be attributed to other people.
E.g., I’ve heard there is even some opening towards acknowledging the Great Famine, thus 烏坎事件 (and others from my previous profile names)
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words must refer to a precise event, and must be clearly summarizable in very few chars, for increased impact, and profile name length limitations.
E.g. "High corruption rates, high pollution", although very serious, feel too generic.
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events that relate directly to freedom of speech receive a prime, since they can only happen in China and very few other countries.
E.g.: [falun-gong], [tiananmen].
Non e.g.: corruption and pollution. Those are hard to quantify, and there is always an immediate reply: china GDP per capita is low, same happens in India, Brazil, etc.
Freedom of speech however, is immediately verifiable (e.g. "my Weibo was taken down"), and undeniably caused by the current central government.
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the more people affected, and the more deeply they have been affected, the more important obviously
I am currently trying to maintain in my Stack Overflow Location a ranking of events in a single string, so that it can be easily copy pasted around. The location appears on every page if you hover over my account name, so it is likely in the HTML at least.
If you think that this list can be improved, please open an issue explaining how and why.
It might be a newbie text editors for newbie Windows users, but at least they use it to good use by doing keyword attacks:
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2019-10: "In October 2019 Notepad++'s GitHub issue tracker was flooded with pro-Chinese and anti-western messages after a version codenamed "Free Uyghur" (v7.8.1) was released"
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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/31/notepad_china_spam/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/dp3icm/notepad_after_voicing_their_support_for_the/ "Notepad++, after voicing their support for the Uyghurs, is now being bombarded by Chinese nationalists on Github." See e.g.: notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus#7489 and earlier issues
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2008-03: "In March 2008 the "Boycott Beijing 2008" banner was placed on Notepad++'s SourceForge.net homepage": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerns_and_controversies_over_the_2008_Summer_Olympics#Boycotts
The creator appears to be a Vietnamese immigrant or descendant living in France. There are many such immigrants due to Vietnam being an ex-colony: https://github.com/donho Also he must have good reason to dislike the commies due to similar commit bullshit in Vietnam. He was at Paris Diderot in 2000: https://donho.github.io/#education (archive).
https://techcrunch.com/2020/08/17/notepad-plus-plus-blocked-in-china/ "Text editor Notepad++ banned in China after ‘Stand With Hong Kong' update" where "banned" means "the download page where they keywords are shown is now blocked in Chinese browsers". The rest of the website is still up. So no domain block due to HTTPS, browser only action for now.
This is an example of [chinese-web-browser-censorship].
A propaganda slogan from a French Resistance (法国抵抗运动) flyer (see also Comparisons between the CCP and Nazi Germany (纳粹德国和**长得很想)):
To obey is to betray.
To disobey is to serve.服从就是背叛
违抗就是服务Obéir c’est trahir.
Désobéir c’est servir.
The movement notably contradicts one of the [core-socialist-values]: dedication (敬业).
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2021-07-04 https://www.scmp.com/comment/letters/article/3139558/what-chinas-lie-flat-youth-and-global-climate-strikers-have-common What China’s ‘lie flat’ youth and global climate strikers have in common by [scmp]
Good cat lying down meme: https://www.marxist.com/china-lie-flat.htm
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https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/pgrei5/so_much_lying_flat_sass_translation_in_comments/ on r/China Reddit sub
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Original poster:
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username: 11223344zslk
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profile page: https://www.douyin.com/user/MS4wLjABAAAA0HYKMT79Af9VeCnrjZ7m_9XrbzSR9IHG_08Cdeo5LMnbNYANllleThIZlY3BFpgC
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original video censored
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short URL: https://v.douyin.com/d2Dq1bb/
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Transcript and translation:
你害怕开学吗？
随便。
对这个学校有什么期待吗？
没有。
为什么呢？
不知道。
新学期有什么新的愿望吗？
呵？
新学期有什么新的愿望吗？
没有。
没有望阿。
你一点心愿都没吗？ 有没有小心愿阿？
没有。
希望怎么样有没有？
没有希望。Are you afraid of starting school?
Whatever.
What are you looking forward in this school?
Nothing.
Why?
I don’t know.
What hopes do you have for new school term?
Huh?
What hopes do you have for new school term?
None.
Hmmm, you don’t have any hopes.
You don’t have any small wishes?
None.
What about hopes?
I have no hope.
Note: 没有希望。 would likely more accurately be translated as "I have no hopes for school". But the same sentence also means "I have no hope", and it was too tempting to recast it in terms of the Lie Flat movement.
On the background sign, we read:
二中青龙湾小学校师阳光台
Sunshine Terrace (? announcement board) of the teachers of the Qinglongwan Elementary School No. 2
The school is mentioned in a news report from 2020 at: https://moment.rednet.cn/pc/content/2020/08/24/8249389.html 市二中青龙湾小学9月1日将迎来首批学生 (City No. 2 Middle School Qinglongwan Primary School will welcome its first batch of students on September 1st) which says it is located at Qinglongwan Town, Lukou District in [hunan] (青龙湾小镇, 株洲县,)
Explicitly forbidden in China by the law: [real-username-law].
See also:
An appropriation attack is one where the attackers attempt to associate an existing symbol to their cause.
For example during the [hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019] attackers attempted to use this technique to associate a generic Chinese Chun-Li-like character Mei from Blizzard’s Overwatch game to try and get it blocked in China after the gaming company punished a pro gamer for defending the Hong Kong protests. Coverage https://www.businessinsider.com/blizzard-fans-overwatch-mei-hong-kong-protests-memes-2019-10 (archive).
NBA in particular is super popular in China, and people sitting at the front row can easily bomb emissions due to the small court size:
Started in particular due to the [lebron-james-opposes-hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019]
TODO any good shots of him wearing the shoes while playing?
Western governments must reciprocate unfair Chinese practices: https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/18508/why-dont-western-countries-penalize-chinese-companies-in-the-same-way-that-chin
Companies only care about money and have no long term view, the following must be imposed by governments on Western companies.
Serious sanctions must be pot on companies that sell sensitive things to ************s:
Related approaches taken by the CCP that should also be stopped dead by strict enforcement of the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA):
Physical presence influence must be completely blocked, e.g. cultural centers that report directly to the CCP such as Confucius institute (孔子学院) and Chinese Students and Scholars Association (CSSA, **学生学者联合会) must be banned.
News about Chinese state media using Western social media:
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2016 https://qz.com/671211/chinas-propaganda-outlets-have-leaped-the-top-of-facebook-even-though-it-banned-at-home/ "China’s propaganda news outlets are absolutely crushing it on Facebook"
Accounts that are not labelled as being from the Chinese government, but which support the CCP, must be investigated to determine if they are actually funded by the Chinese government.
TODO what to do with websites of: [chinese-government-media]? Blocking them has the downsides that:
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it would be harder to monitor what crazy shit the commies are doing
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those censorship mechanisms could be reused to block good websites by Western governments that are becoming Evil
Let’s just leave them up to start with, who gives a fuck about them? :-) If they are getting too many page views, we can make search engines add the disclaimer too.
Chinese social media such as [wechat] and [tiktok] must be banned. This is less serious than regular websites, because you can always repost on Western social media but without getting spied on:
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2020-08-07 https://www.engadget.com/tiktok-wechat-executive-order-014615752.html "Trump executive order seeks to ban TikTok, [wechat] 'transactions' in 45 days"
Whenever China kicks out a western journalist who is in China and reports there, the Western country must do the same and kick out a Chinese journalists for a Chinese media.
An upside of restricting Chinese servies is that it would hugely bolster [censorship-circumvention] technologies, as every Chinese expat would need to buy a VPN.
Western governments must identify raw material dependencies on China, and reduce them, while at the same time forbidding technology transfer to China. China has been trading cheap resources for technology, and we must stop that now.
Unfair Chinese commercial practices must be reciprocated. Chinese companies should be forced to open joint ventures to operate outside of China, which is a trick China uses to control profits and more easily steal IP from Western companies:
Sanctions must be imposed directly on Chinese officials. They must not be allowed to "escape to a better life or have investments in the West":
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2020-08-08 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53699084 "Hong Kong: US imposes sanctions on chief executive Carrie Lam"
All posts of all state-sponsored social media accounts must be clearly marked as such.
This should be done not only for China, but of all countries, including Western democracies.
Even better, they should add funny censored images on top of those that are from ************ countries.
Furthermore, marked media from ************s must be forbidden to both monetize and pay to promote its content.
Any outlets that do not announce themselves as state sponsored but are, must be banned forever when they are found out.
What to do about personal accounts is much harder to decide however, and especially so in the case of [ccp-apologists], where they might really not be state sponsored, and the creator’s nationality won’t help make the decision either.
Some websites have started marking such accounts, which is a great start.
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YouTube in 2018: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/2/16964190/youtube-state-funded-broadcasters
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Facebook in 2020: https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/04/facebook-adds-labels-identifying-state-controlled-media/
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Twitter in 2020:
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example from https://twitter.com/PDChina [peoples-daily] marked as "China state-affiliated media" and links to https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/state-affiliated-china
Reports of Chinese influence on social media:
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2020-06 Twitter has also implicated in receiving advertising money from [china-daily], see also: China watch (2011-)
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2020-06-12 https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/information-operations-june-2020.html
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2020-06-12 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jun/12/twitter-deletes-170000-accounts-linked-to-china-influence-campaign "Twitter deletes 170,000 accounts linked to China influence campaign"
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The Chinese government later contested this decision: https://variety.com/2020/digital/asia/china-victim-wants-twitter-to-delete-attackers-1234633860/
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2020-04-07 https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/9397v8/chinas-been-flooding-facebook-with-shady-ads-blaming-trump-for-the-coronavirus-crisis "China’s Been Flooding Facebook With Shady Ads Blaming Trump for the Coronavirus Crisis"
Do not underestimate the CCP and its control over every Chinese companies and people. Every Chinese company and person is a potential spy.
This is true for all countries however, and Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) does not not reproach China specifically for its secret service, e.g. Snowden (斯诺登) used Dell as an NSA front-end.
The point is just that the West should not underestimate this menace that comes from a Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a ************? (**不是**！).
For university espionage in particular see: University espionage (大学间谍).
Some Chinese spy stories:
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2020-03-20 Tarmo Kõuts from Estonia
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https://news.err.ee/1608148489/court-sentences-estonian-marine-scientist-to-prison-for-spying-for-china "Court sentences Estonian marine scientist to prison for spying for China"
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2020-12-25 https://in.news.yahoo.com/detention-10-chinese-spies-afghanistan-040901520.html "Detention of 10 Chinese spies in Afghanistan leaves Beijing red-faced" TODO better source.
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2020-12-09 Christine Fang https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2dfb99-f839-4e00-8bd8-59dec0daf589.html "Exclusive: Suspected Chinese spy targeted California politicians". In 2015, she was fucking some politicians and infiltrating parties, but as suspicions arose, Beijing likely called her back.
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2020-09-21 Baimadajie Angwang
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https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/09/21/nypd-cop-charged-with-acting-as-china-agent.html "New York City police officer spied on fellow Tibetans for China, prosecutors charge"
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2020-08-21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3hwdsbh6-M "I worked for the Chinese State Department – 中公教育党委 – offcn CCP Committee" more info at [aaron-dewitt]
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2019-01-15 Kevin Mallory
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2019-01-15 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46557096 "Kevin Mallory: The churchgoing patriot who spied for China"
Good profile. He was first approached via LinkedIn. As a related case, Jun Wei Yeo was arrested as LinkedIn spy recruiter in 2020: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53544505
And those stupid Chines handlers gave him a phone that was supposed to be encrypted, but it crashed and then rebooted unencrypted, right when the FBI agents were around.
But after the 2008 real estate crash, his fortunes changed. His house plummeted in value, and later he lost his job.
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2019-04-04 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/how-230-000-debt-linkedin-message-led-ex-cia-officer-n990691 "How a $230,000 debt and a LinkedIn message led an ex-CIA officer to spy for China"
Good profile, gives important points: he was 230k in debt, and "Mallory began reaching out to former CIA colleagues in an apparent effort to pump them for information. The ex-colleagues grew suspicious and contacted the CIA, prosecutors say."
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2019-05-18 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48319058 "Kevin Mallory: Ex-CIA agent jailed for spying for China".
The article also contains a good summary section "CIA spy operation in China: Key dates".
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2019-11: Wang Liqiang spy defection to Australia
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2019-11: Jerry Chun Shing Lee, naturalized American, convicted for being double agent while working at CIA after being in custody for 2 years
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2018-06-05 Ron Rockwell Hansen
[[2010-dismantling-of-cia-s-network-in-china-2010]] ====== 2010 dismantling of CIA’s network in China (2010 拆除中情局在华网络)
More research will be dropped at: https://************.com/cia-2010-covert-communication-websites
In September 2022, actual sample website were published by Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-spies-iran/.
A Chinese sample website (currently the only known one): http://web.archive.org/web/20110208113503/http://activegaminginfo.com/ It is entitled:
活跃游戏
which means something like "lively games".
Around 2010-2012 about 20 CIA spies in China were killed. One was shot right in the courtyard of a government building as a message to others.
After identifying some of the websites, possibly with a double agent, Iran was able to reach the rest through Google searches for similar sites.
The trouble started in when the CIA was investigating nuclear weapons in Iran in 2009.
The fact that China soon followed could indicate that Iran sold the secret to China.
TODO do we have any such sample websites or screenshots of them? #167
https://news.yahoo.com/cias-communications-suffered-catastrophic-compromise-started-iran-090018710.html mentions that:
A 2011 Iranian television broadcast that touted the government’s destruction of the CIA network said U.S. intelligence operatives had created websites for fake companies to recruit agents in Iran by promising them jobs, visas and education abroad. Iranians who initially thought they were responding to legitimate opportunities would end up meeting with CIA officers in places like Dubai or Istanbul for recruitment, according to the broadcast.
therefore the websites might not have been in English.
TODO find that broadcast. News broke 2019-06-22[] apparently: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMilJGTIvkI "US calls for Iran to free alleged CIA spy" by euronews (in English) (2011-12-20) shows a forced confession on state television by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Mirza_Hekmati. He claims to have been tortured with forced drug withdrawal. Given that Iran is in the Golden Crescent, Ciro would guess they gave him heroin, see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_in_Iran "Opium in Iran is widely available, and the country was thought to have the highest per capita number of opiate addicts in the world[1][2] at a rate of 2.8% of Iranians over age 15."
Iran claims to have captured spies working for CIA
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2017-05-20 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-espionage-idUSKCN18G0UM "China killed CIA sources, hobbled U.S. spying from 2010 to 2012: NYT"
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2018-10-02 https://news.yahoo.com/cias-communications-suffered-catastrophic-compromise-started-iran-090018710.html "The CIA’s communications suffered a catastrophic compromise. It started in Iran."
The Chinese counterintelligence organ.
Report website launched in 2018 https://www.12339.gov.cn/, some coverage:
The Chinese army, and also one of the central intelligence agencies, notably on cyberattacks.
As highlighted on [the-gate-of-heavenly-peace-1995] 1:41, the PLA were really thought of as heroes of the people, partly due to Mao-era propaganda, as their name indicates. But when they stepped into Tiananmen, some of that was lost.
They are an entry point to spying, censorship and Fake news (假新闻). Notable companies that should be banned:
Reports:
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2020-02 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-media/u-s-imposes-new-rules-on-state-owned-chinese-media-over-propaganda-concerns-idUSKBN20C2G1 U.S. imposes new rules on state-owned Chinese media over propaganda concerns, the companies are: Xinhua News Agency, China Global Television Network, China Radio International, China Daily Distribution Corp. and Hai Tian Development USA, Inc. See also: [chinese-government-media].
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2020-04-03 https://theintercept.com/2020/04/03/zooms-encryption-is-not-suited-for-secrets-and-has-surprising-links-to-china-researchers-discover/ 'Zoom’s encryption is "not suited for secrets" and has surprising links to china, researchers discover"
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When you report something about a person, for fuck’s sake include the person’s name in the title of the article, at the very least the pinyin.
Then, in the body, also add the corresponding Chinese characters on the first mention. This is how you do it: "San Xihou (***)"
Yes, Chinese people also have names. And yes, pinyin has infinitely more homonyms than characters.
In the body of the article, notably in photos, include the exact location of the event if applicable.
City at the very least, but if recognizable, where withing the city.
Yes, China is big! There are many different places in China.
Western governments should prevent companies from complying to Chinese censorship requests, or at least impose fines and sanctions on them.
Citizens should boycott such companies and require them to be punished.
Some well known companies and events:
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2022 https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/intel-deletes-reference-to-xinjiang-after-backlash-in-china Intel deletes reference to Xinjiang after backlash in China
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2020 Hololive Kiryu Coco firing incident (Hololive **事件, 2020)
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2020 Outfront Media, see: [lebron-james-opposes-hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019]
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2020-02 https://theintercept.com/2020/02/18/mike-bloomberg-lp-nda-china/ "When Bloomberg News’s Reporting on China Was Challenged, Bloomberg Tried to Ruin Me for Speaking Out"
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2019-12 Shutterstock implements censorship for searches from China https://techcrunch.com/2019/12/08/in-wake-of-shutterstocks-chinese-censorship-american-companies-need-to-relearn-american-values/
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JPMorgan
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2016-11 "Sons and Daughters" corruption hiring program for chidren of government officials: https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2016/11/17/jpmorgan-agrees-to-pay-264-million-fine-for-sons-and-daughters-hiring-program-in-china/#46746e305688
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Summaries:
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https://applecensorship.com App Store monitoring by [greatfire], source: https://github.com/greatfire/applecensorship
News:
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2021-06-08 https://techcrunch.com/2021/06/07/apple-private-relay-unavailable-in-china/ Apple’s new encrypted browsing feature won’t be available in China, Saudi Arabia and more: report
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2020-03-01 https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/01/china-roundup-apple-closes-app-store-loophole/ "China Roundup: Apple closes a 4-year-old App Store loophole"
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2019-04-12 https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/12/18305087/congress-apple-criticism-china-communist-tiananmen-pro-democracy "Lawmakers lash out at Apple for censoring a song about Tiananmen Square protests"
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1999 https://www.lionsroar.com/apple-thinks-different-about-the-dalai-lama-in-china-2/ Apple censors [dalai-lama] for China
Immediately censors anything that the Chinese government asks to censor in China.
3 days after Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) put up anti-CCP messages on his LinkedIn, the account was banned in China, with a message under https://www.linkedin.com/help/linkedin/cases/36977487:
Hi Ciro,
Your LinkedIn profile is an integral part of how you present your professional self to the world. That’s why we believe it’s important to inform you that due to the presence of prohibited content located in the headline, background image and volunteer experience sections of your LinkedIn profile, your profile and your public activity, such as your comments and items you share with your network, will not be made viewable in China. Your profile and activity continues to remain viewable throughout the rest of the countries in which LinkedIn is available. We will work with you to minimize the impact and can review your profile’s accessibility within China if you update the headline, background image and volunteer experience sections of your profile. But the decision whether to update your profile is yours.
In February 2014, we began offering a localized version of LinkedIn in China. We believe that people everywhere can benefit from Chinese individuals connecting with each other and LinkedIn members in other parts of the world, and that the creation of economic opportunity can have a profound impact on their lives and the lives of their families and communities.
While we strongly support freedom of expression, we recognized when we launched that we would need to adhere to the requirements of the Chinese government in order to operate in China. As a reminder, your profile will remain viewable throughout the rest of the countries in which LinkedIn is available.
If you have any questions, please contact Customer Service.
Regards,
LinkedIn Support Team
2021-10-14 https://techcrunch.com/2021/10/14/microsoft-to-pull-linkedin-from-chinese-market/ Microsoft to pull LinkedIn from Chinese market
The leading Chinese clone appear to be MaiMai (脉脉):
300M investment and not even an English Wikipedia page, we live on different planets: https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/脉脉
Interestingly however, Ciro still received some profile views from Chinese profiles from time to time, he wonders why, do they have a permit of some sort? E.g.:
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2023-05-09 https://techcrunch.com/2023/05/08/linkedin-layoffs/
LinkedIn is cutting 716 jobs and will begin phasing out its local jobs app in China. In a letter today, LinkedIn CEO Ryan Roslanky said the decision to shutter the standalone China app, called InCareer, was because of “fierce competition and a challenging macroeconomic climate.”
InCareer was launched in December 2021, a couple months after LinkedIn announced it was shutting down its main service in China. At that time, it attributed the decision to shutter LinkedIn China to “a significantly more challenging operating environment and greater compliance requirements.”
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2021-12-30 someone from 红山区公安分局 from Hongshan Public Security sub-department in Hongshan, Inner Mongolia
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2021-09-29 someone from 北京云中融信网络科技有限公司 https://baike.baidu.com/item/北京云中融信网络科技有限公司/17048165, an instant messaging services company.
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2021-09-17 Weber Shandwick
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https://www.webershandwick.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/2021-Geopolitical-Risk-Report.pdf 2021 REPORT ON GEOPOLITICAL RISKS TO BUSINESS REPUTATION by Weber Shandwick’s geopolitical Risk & Reputation Advisory Group
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2021-08-09 https://www.linkedin.com/in/嘉伟-闫-bbbb60218/ 闫嘉伟 领英** - 内容审核 (Yan Jiawei), LinkedIn China, content audit based in Beijing. One of the censors mistakently viewed Ciro’s profile without premium or internal tools! Hello. Started working there June 2021, no further personal information available.
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2021-07-29:
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custommer service person from [huawei]
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financial consultant from Beijing
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2021-05-23 LinkedIn profile view from https://www.linkedin.com/company/circussocial/ Circus Social https://www.circussocial.com/. Some of their China stuff: https://www.circussocial.com/blog/tag/china-social-media/
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2021-03-23 https://my.cscglobal.com/ to ************.com/china-************ another compliance company, previous https://cms.securimate.com hits come to mind. China related articles:
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https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200728005641/en/CSC-Becomes-First-Foreign-Owned-Company-to-Receive-Domain-Registrar-License-in-China this company has some serious weight with Chinese regulators!
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https://www.cscglobal.com/service/webinar/china-web-policies/ talks mostly about ICP licenses
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https://www.cscglobal.com/cscglobal/pdfs/DBS/CSC-Your-Brand-Secured.pdf features Jayce Yeo, and mentions social media management
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https://medium.com/@hackermaderas/the-beginning-of-one-hackers-thoroughly-referenced-evidenced-osint-investigation-of-clearview-ai-1aa2e9109492 has a technical analysis that points that CSC has links to Clearview AI, and seem to be front-companies
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[brave-new-world-books] comes to mind.
They also have a [anonymous-account-ban] policy for all countries:
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https://www.linkedin.com/help/linkedin/answer/28422/names-allowed-on-profiles you have to use your real name
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https://www.linkedin.com/help/linkedin/topics/6042/6059/430 you have to use your real photo
Related:
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2021-09 Bethany Allen-Ebrahimian https://hongkongfp.com/2021/09/29/microsofts-linkedin-censors-us-journalist-over-china-content-makes-disturbing-offer-for-reinstatement/
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2021-03-11 https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/11/tech/linkedin-china-microsoft-intl-hnk/index.html "LinkedIn suspends new sign-ups in China":
We’re a global platform with an obligation to respect the laws that apply to us, including adhering to Chinese government regulations for our localized version of LinkedIn in China," LinkedIn added. The company declined to elaborate on which local law it was examining.
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2019-01-04 https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/2180620/linkedin-adhering-beijings-rules-censors-chinese-profile-page-us-based "LinkedIn reverses course after censoring Chinese profile page of US-based human rights activist Zhou Fengsuo", see also: [zhou-fengsuo]
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2014-06-04 https://money.cnn.com/2014/06/04/technology/linkedin-china-censorship/ "LinkedIn draws fire for China censorship" mentions: "Some LinkedIn (LNKD) users have received emails from the company in recent days informing them that their posts will not be shown in mainland China."
This lists links between owners of several US media outlets and China: https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/04/has-china-compromised-every-major-mainstream-media-entity/ "A Rundown Of Major U.S. Corporate Media’s Business Ties To China". No direct evidence that this has affected the news however.
Related:
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2021 Cinitalia [china-radio-international] offsohot publushing propaganda add-ons on the Italian newspaper Il Giornale
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ADVChina/comments/n9o2kp/italian_newspaper_controlled_by_chinese_news/
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Sample article: 2021-05-09 https://www.ilgiornale.it/news/mondo/report-che-confuta-teoria-genocidio-nello-xinjiang-1945268.html "Il report europeo che confuta il genocidio nello Xinjiang" (The European report that refutes the genocide in Xinjiang) about [xinjiang-re-education-camps].
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Campaign by [china-daily] to add paid articles/ads that read like news in/distributed with Western newspapers. They appeared to be marked as China watch ads, but still, they should be crushed.
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2020-06: Washington Post, Wall Street Journal and others figure on official fillings of newspapers paid by China Daily: https://efile.fara.gov/docs/3457-Amendment-20200601-2.pdf.
As per the documents filed by China Daily with the Justice Department, the Communist party mouthpiece had paid over $6 million to the Wall Street Journal (WSJ), $4.6 million to the Washington Post, $2,40,000 to Foreign Policy, $50,000 to the New York Times, $34,600 to The Des Moines Register and $76,000 to CQ-Roll Call.
Besides, spending $11 million in advertising on prominent US papers, China Daily shelled out an additional $7.6 million to The Chicago Tribune, Los Angeles Times, The Seattle Times, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, The Houston Chronicle, and The Boston Globe for printing copies of its own paper. For instance, the Los Angeles Times reportedly received $657,523 for printing services. The Communist party-mouthpiece had also spent $2,65,822 on advertising on Twitter.
The Washington Post is the one that had received the most attention earlier on since 2011:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post#China_Daily_advertising_supplements
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https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/02/official-chinese-propaganda-now-online-from-the-wapo/70690/ "Official Chinese Propaganda: Now Online from the WaPo!"
They even had online distribution channel: http://chinawatch.washingtonpost.com/ It is dead as of 2020-07, but was alive in 2018
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Daily Telegraph: UK Daily Telegraph stops publishing section paid for by China[piece of shit] tabloid, it comes as no surprise that they would sell out to any ************
2020-04-14 https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/apr/14/daily-telegraph-stops-publishing-section-paid-for-by-china "Daily Telegraph stops publishing section paid for by China"
China Daily itself claims certain partnerships: [china-daily] https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/static_e/global.html:
China Daily has also developed diversified cooperation with over 40 media organizations around the world, including The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, The Daily Telegraph, the Guardian, etc.
Contains a "List of companies who have apologized to the Chinese government and implemented censorship requests".
It only lists companies that implemented censorship outside of China however (with Hong Kong, Taiwan and Macau defined as outside of China), therefore it is basically a Taiwan flag takedown + Hong Kong / Taiwan censorship list:
Other interesting GitHub repositories: GitHub repositories with censored information (政治敏感的GitHub库).
See also:
Western:
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2021-05-25 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cena for One China policy (一个**)
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/26/john-cena-very-sorry-for-saying-taiwan-is-a-country about
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https://twitter.com/tony_zy/status/1397188279322173442 Apology video with English subtitles. YouTube reupload: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqjOrsMupgg
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[lebron-james-opposes-hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019]
Chinese who are famous in the West:
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Jackie Chan 陳港生 even though he is born in Hong Kong
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Liu Yifei 刘亦菲 who starred in the Mulan 2020 Disney movie. To make matters more fun, some scenes were shot in Xinjiang (**): https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4004891
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/16/disneys-mulan-star-sparks-call-for-boycott-with-hong-kong-stance opposed the [hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019], notably saying "What a shame for Hong Kong". The People’s Daily later quoted her: https://web.archive.org/web/20190816162331/http://en.people.cn/n3/2019/0816/c90000-9606859.html
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Chinese celebrities who opposed the CCP:
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2021 Enes Kanter’s shoes (埃内斯·坎特, NBA) what a hero
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2021 ranks China below F in a Country tier list video: https://youtu.be/x1PjAhpUjYQ?t=198, appears to be a rip of this members-only content: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NCcFkuosfI. Reddit entry: https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/ptzygj/pewdiepie_you_are_a_legend/
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2019 on [hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhWZavn2OvM Hong Kong vs Joker Ends Fortnite [MEME REVIEW]
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Related about university interference:
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2021-08-04 https://www.nzz.ch/english/swiss-phd-students-dismissal-spotlights-chinas-influence-ld.1638771 | https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/hsg-und-china-kritik-auf-twitter-kostet-doktoranden-abschluss-ld.1637789 Swiss PHD under pseudonum Oliver Gerber kicked out of doctorate for criticizing China on Twitter. Real name, his Twitter, and advisors were not disclosed because his girlfriend lives in China. University name: University of St. Gallen (HSG, it specialises in business administration, economics, law, and international affairs, HSG also has among the most billionaire alumni in the world). On r/China Reddit sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/China/duplicates/oxc9qk/phd_student_in_switzerland_expelled_from_his/
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2020-12-05 https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN28F05U "U.S. ends exchange programs with China, calling them 'propaganda'". Only five of the programs were terminated:
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Policymakers Educational China Trip Program
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U.S.-China Friendship Program
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U.S.-China Leadership Exchange Program
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U.S.-China Transpacific Exchange Program
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Hong Kong Educational and Cultural Program
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2020-06-17 https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/US-blacklists-China-s-MIT-as-tech-war-enters-new-phase Harbin Institute of Technology denied MATLAB support for being in the entity list, apparenty since may: https://www.commerce.gov/news/press-releases/2020/05/commerce-department-add-two-dozen-chinese-companies-ties-wmd-and
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2020-05-28 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/motion-backing-hong-kong-blocked-after-campaign-by-chinese-students-at-warwick-fsdfphr26 "Motion backing Hong Kong blocked after campaign by Chinese students at Warwick". The article mentions that "Just under 1,000 students voted in favour of the motion. Turnout was three times higher than other votes and officials said that it was a new record for participation."
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2020-08 https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/craven-cowardice-unsw-condemned-for-deleting-posts-critical-of-beijing-20200803-p55hy5.html "'Craven cowardice': UNSW condemned for deleting posts critical of Beijing" University of New South Wales
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2020-05 Drew Pavlou 柏乐志
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University of Queensland, Australia, was trying to get rid of him for anti-CCP campaign
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o1sZefER0E China Unscripted interview
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China buying pre-University educational institutions:
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2021-06-11 https://archive.ph/RkHjR Insider investigation reveals officials helped sell access to California public schools to Chinese elite
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2021-02-21 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9282617/British-private-institutions-bought-Chinese-firms.html "The British schools selling out to Beijing: Not only are private institutions being bought by Chinese firms but some are giving communist-approved lessons that are a threat to free speech", gives list of 17 schools bought
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2021-03-24 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education-and-careers/2021/03/24/chinese-buying-private-schools-should-grateful/ "The Chinese are buying into our private schools and we should be grateful" what, lady, are you nuts?
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2019-07-10 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chinese-buy-up-more-of-england-s-private-schools-pjr6692bq "Chinese buy up more of England’s private schools", "Chinese investors have secured another foothold in the English private school sector with the £150 million purchase of CATS colleges."
News and reports:
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2019-09 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-49511231 (archive) "Confucius Institutes: The growth of China’s controversial cultural branch"
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2019-01 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2019/01/11/u-s-universities-have-shut-down-confucius-institutes-heres-what-you-need-to-know/ (archive) "Why U.S. universities are shutting down China-funded Confucius Institutes"
Lists:
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2021-02-08 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/8/uk-academics-investigated-over-china-military-research-report "Nearly 200 British academics at more than 12 universities in the United Kingdom are being investigated on suspicion of unwittingly helping the Chinese government build weapons of mass destruction"
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2020-06-12 https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/fifty-four-scientists-have-lost-their-jobs-result-nih-probe-foreign-ties "Fifty-four scientists have lost their jobs as a result of NIH probe into foreign ties" and "In 93% of those cases, the hidden funding came from a Chinese institution." and "In the vast majority of cases, Lauer reported, the person being investigated has been an Asian man in his 50s."
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1262441045197049856.html List of professors around America caught selling secret research to the Chinese Communist Regime
People:
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2020-11-17 Song Guo Zheng, Ohio State University
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2020-09 Haizhou Hu from University of Virginia: https://www.cbs19news.com/story/42560934/uva-researcher-arrested-on-federal-charges
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2020-07 Houston consulate closed due to alllegations of facilitating intellectual property theft without public proof
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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/02/politics/us-chinese-diplomat-restrictions/index.html "US imposes new restrictions on Chinese diplomats" has been another direct effect of this most likely
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2020-07 Juan Tang
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/23/chinese-researcher-wanted-by-fbi-flees-to-san-francisco-consulate-as-us-china-row-deepens "Chinese researcher wanted by FBI flees to San Francisco consulate as US-China row deepens"
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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3094511/us-charges-four-scientists-hiding-ties-chinese-government has her PLA photos
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2020 Hao Zhang: https://www.voanews.com/usa/chinese-professor-convicted-stealing-trade-secrets-china from Avago and Skyworks
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2020 Charles Lieber
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_M._Lieber he had won a Wolf Prize in Chemistry
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2019 Shih Yi-chi from UCLA
5.17.3. Chinese student coordinator in Germany tells exchange students not to support democracy (2020, 德国学校开班会4反对**)
YET UNCONFIRMED VIDEO, we have to find who that person is exactly.
The video shows what seems to be Chinese a high school dorm coordinator saying that their Chinese exchange students must stay away from ideas [democracy] and freedom.
And remember that "democracy" and "freedom" are two of the [core-socialist-values]!
First ripped from uploader’s Douyin account named Michael_c118, who also appears to be the person on the video.
Original proeminent report on the West: 2020-10-04 https://twitter.com/SDeutschlands/status/1312682617888796673 by "Voice From Germany 德國之音"
https://m.yorkbbs.ca/forum/chat/5228712.aspx contains reported screenshots of the Douyin profile (no web interface it seems), include a clear face shot.
Video also commented at:
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2020-10-31 https://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=60076&snA=5984833 from our friends from Taiwan (Republic of China, **, 中華民國)
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2020-10-25 https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/jhx2mc/chinese_student_coordinator_in_germany_talking_to/ on Reddit
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2020-19-04 https://twitter.com/HKokbore/status/1312802503956848641
Key markings:
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"德国学校开班会4"
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"This man is a coordinator of Chinese high school students who study in Germany"
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"We have to say there’s some problems in our dorm right now"
https://twitter.com/Hujo_DR/status/1312793758203748357/photo/1 is a screenshot of the Douyin profile showing a phone number, which looks like a Chinese number due to prefix 139: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_China#Mobile_phones
The screnshots posted on yorkbbs link him to "北京智享德意国际教育" (Beijing Zhixiang German/Italian International Education).
Googling "北京智享德意国际教育 linkedin" leads to UNCONFIRMED a Yun Xiao https://www.linkedin.com/in/xiaoyun79/ | https://archive.vn/CzZft which is not marked as working in the above organization, but could be the person in the video based on the profile picture (uncertain), and also works with education, thus the Google hit at his current organization (北京智晗未来教育咨询有限公司).
Searching for Google exact hits to "北京智享德意国际教育" leads to https://www.tianyancha.com/company/3283146644 which rejects foreign visits as of 2020-10-26, shows up on Google cache at on 2020-10-21 (archive).
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) believes that this is exactly the type of thing that poor countries need to do to get richer: https://************.com/what-poor-countries-have-to-do-to-get-richer.
But we can’t allow China to do it because China is a ************.
Abbreviation: CSSA.
News and reports:
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2019-10-13 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-13/cssa-influence-australian-universities-documents-revealed/11587454 (archive) "Chinese Students and Scholars Association’s deep links to the embassy revealed" in Australia.
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2018-03-07 https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/07/chinas-long-arm-reaches-into-american-campuses-chinese-students-scholars-association-university-communist-party/ (archive)
China’s "Diaspora management" organ.
The likely organizers behind Confucius institute (孔子学院), Chinese Students and Scholars Association (CSSA, **学生学者联合会), and likely several forms of Astroturfing.
5.18. What should pro-democracy Chinese living in China do about the ************? 想要**住在**大陆的人应该干什么？
First of all, hide and stay safe, unless you can deal the final blow. From World at war, 1973, ep. 16:
A ************ is like a snake. If you put your foot on its tail as you do it, it will just bite you and nobody will be helped. You have to strike the head.
**就像一条蛇。 如果你在这样做的时候把脚放在它的尾巴上，它只会咬你，没有人会得到帮助。 你必须击打头部。
Once that is taken care of, a few good options are:
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hide your thoughts, manipulate your enemies, infiltrate the corporate, political and military power circles, and go up the ladder
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if you are an technological innovator, leave China and come work for the West. Don’t strengthen commie power.
Alternatively, with technology you could also try the anonymous rebellion route, but the risk of getting caught is significant, leaving the country first is likely a good idea. See also:
If you don’t manage to do either of the above, don’t do any technological work. Go work on the fields or washing dishes. Working well for Chinese companies makes the Chinese ************ stronger and more deadly. See also: Embargoes make ************s stronger (禁运使**更强大).
And regardless: remind your kids that the commies are bastards every day.
Related:
People get kind of passionate sometimes about politics. And some of them might also be just malicious wumaos, although it is generally not possible to distinguish between them.
If you are not a wumao, consider this:
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Ciro Santilli is one, and antagonists are millions. It is therefore not possible to reply to all antagonists.
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Ciro has in the past tried to be nice to stupid people, and they gave nasty replies
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all discussion is useless, only the keyword attack has any chance of having any effect, and even that is slim
In order to not waste too much time on those, Ciro Santilli uses the following strategy.
If the original thread post is not very interesting, try to parse it quickly and reply once, always linking to the FAQ, and then unfollow the thread. This shows that you’re still alive, and takes little effort.
Always quote reply, and always write down the ID of the OP on your reply, because discussions like this lead to a large number of comment and account deletions, which could make your reply not make much sense without the context.
After the link addressing anything that they might have said, add three randomly selected images from this repository to it. This is fundamental because the average [little-pink] does not speak English. Therefore writing is pointless.
Meme images, however, cross the language barrier beautifully. It is even better if they have Chinese captions.
For websites that don’t accept image on comments, we just have to revert to random-links to start with.
Another way to see it is that we are creating a harder to censor Instagram channel.
You can think of them metaphorically as throwing hand grenades over the [gfw]. Ciro strives to add the following elements in the image itself where applicable:
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English explanation
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Chinese explanation
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date
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location
Because the CCP censors politics, and the West does not, we can never "lose" a shitargument. Even if the [wumao] supports his country in a thread, just being in the same thread as the censored material could already be problematic for the wumao, as it is proof that they’ve seen something they should not have seen.
Therefore the only option for them is to run away.
Finally, also try to extract the email of the user from one of their repositories. When successful, Ciro takes a [wayback-machine] snapshot of the repository as proof of SHA, and then forks it to https://github.com/wumaoland to possibly keep their email safe in case of account deletion. You never know when this information might be useful.
Then, after replying, do your best never to read the inevitable reply again, and above all, never ever reply. An interesting reply never follows from a non-interesting original post. It is hard at first, but you will eventually get the hang of it.
If the user keeps generating notifications, block them as per CONTRIBUTING.md, replying to a single person multiple times is useless.
Never block users for an initial shitposts, just reply with a stupid joke instead. This approach creates more uncertainty and makes you look cooler. It also allows you to identify who the enemy is. Only block if the user is generating multiple notifications.
If a shitpost is made on most other social media except GitHub issues in this repository, e.g. Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, immediately block the user on that website if you have the permission to do that, with a canned reply:
Hi <idiot’s name>, I don’t reply to China issues here, please open an issue at: https://github.com/************/china-************/issues instead, cheers.
Note however that this is not possible on idiotic websites like Quora where such comments may be deleted, possibly automatically, who the fuck knows, e.g. as done at: https://www.quora.com/What-would-happen-if-I-walked-around-Beijing-with-a-t-shirt-that-said-freedom-of-speech-is-pretty-great/answer/Ciro-Santilli/comment/143227962 In that case just link to sections of the FAQ, or mute people, or maybe just block all comments on the post to not waste time with new useless notifications.
This is because it is not worth answering anywhere else where the information will be scattered and impossible to find later on, and especially on websites that are already blocked in China. Shitposts on Stack Overflow and other non-blocked websites are encouraged however, as they further help to get the website blocked in China.
For outbursts of activity from Chinese websites, usually programming (v2ex, hacpai, pincong), only post the following canned answer and nothing else, because cowards/people who don’t know English from the website might delete your posts, so you shouldn’t waste time there with that shit:
大家你好
在我的GitHub**FAQ repository我已经回答了好几个关于我常见的问题。
你们要是在那儿找不到一个回答，请在那个repository开一个issue，我马上就回答。
我不要再在这个网页评论。
Finally, don’t forget the golden rule from Proverbs 26:4:
Don’t answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are.
which is now usually seen in the form of unclear attribution:
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Where basically idiot == someone who creates posts that obviously aren’t teaching you any new useful thing, or that not praising you :-)
Alternatively, there is also the Chinese chengyu version:
对牛弹琴
which means:
Playing the qin to a cow.
which means to talk to someone who does not have intellectual conditions of understanding what you are trying to say, bibliography:
More wumao focused strategies at: [how-to-deal-with-wumaos].
#733 by https://github.com/newcih is an interesting issue. OP has managed to close and change the issue title despite being blocked. Is he raising support tickets? Or can blocked people do that now? E.g. note towards #733 (comment) how ************ managed to reopen twice without any visible closes in the middle. They also have a Twitter BTW: https://twitter.com/newcih2020/status/1520405835679109120
This is a term "invented" by Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) to denote the type of democracy vs ************ propaganda warfare that naturally emerges.
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the ************ has [censorship] and legions of possibly non-anonymous supporters. Although most supporters are actually anonymous anyways
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the anti-censorship democracy has memes, and a few anonymous supporters, due to the Chilling effect (寒蝉效应)
This concept is a mixture of the concepts of:
This phenomena can also be very clearly seen on the differences between the international propaganda of each side:
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the anti-censorship democracy side, e.g. [rfa], creates "the ************ is bad" propaganda that is censored in the ************ and targeted at people people in the ************
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the censorship side, e.g. [cgtn], creates "the ************ is good" propaganda that is targeted at people people outside the ************
5.19.2. Ciro Santilli censors wumaos, therefore he is no different from the Chinese government (***审查五毛，因此他与**政府没有什么不同)
Those who support political [censorship] deserve to be censored themselves to get a taste of their own medicine.
Also, unlike the Chinese government, Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) does never delete messages. Only prevents more bullshit spam from the same users. This is basically an inevitable part of Asymmetric information warfare (不对称信息战).
Due to the nature of Asymmetric information warfare (不对称信息战), Ciro has created a reply bot based on GitHub Actions that does the above automatically, therefore handling 99% of the work, see:
The bot works beautifully because it makes Ciro not feel the need to reply to every idiot [wumao] that comes along. Also Ciro can hide like a coward behind the bot by editing the bot’s comment, which is perfect. This reminded Ciro from something that was said in Better Call Saul S01 E01:
And they find themselves in a little room with a detective who acts like he’s their best friend.
"Talk to me," he says. "Help me clear this thing up."
"You don’t need a lawyer, only guilty people need lawyers."
And, boom, hey, that’s when it all goes south.
That’s when you want someone in your corner.
Someone who will fight tooth and nail.
Lawyers, we’re like health insurance.
You hope you never need it, but, man, oh, man, not having it? No.
The bot is basically Ciro’s lawyer, always loyally on his corner of the fighting ring.
There is only one bug with the bot as of 2021: if a [wumao] with unverified email makes several comments very fast, only the first one generates the reply, see e.g.:
Ciro is however curious how those unverified accounts can comment at all, as that seemd impossible when he last tried it with a dummy account, to be confirmed.
Original creator of https://github.com/************/china-************: https://************.com/
Born and raised in China: Why does Ciro Santilli love China so much? (为什么***喜欢**那么多？).
She and her mother do [falun-gong], see also: Does Ciro Santilli support Falun Gong just because his wife and mother-in-law do it? (***是否仅仅因为他的妻子和岳母就支持**功？).
Believes to be descendant of the brother of a recent Qing emperor, see also: Ciro Santilli’s claim to the Qing Dynasty throne (***清朝皇帝觊觎).
For this same reason, her father, who Ciro’s wife worships, spent around 10 years in the 50’s for being branded a counter revolutionary rightist (右派) during one of Mao’s purges, possibly:
It is also for this reason that many Manchu changed their names to hide their Manchu origins, which makes reconstructing their family tree much harder, as mentioned at: https://www.scmp.com/article/982136/proud-manchu-reclaims-his-rich-heritage for the purposes of Ciro Santilli’s claim to the Qing Dynasty throne (***清朝皇帝觊觎).
Ciro’s wife:
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studied in one of the best universities of China
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met Ciro his wife when they were in possibly the best engineering university in France after she had refused opportunities to go to the USA
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obtained a PhD in number theory in one of the best mathematics universities in the world
and is way smarter than Ciro.
Wumaos can say many things about her, but claiming that she is not intelligent or has no culture or would have any difficulty in obtaining a qualified worker VISA without a marriage, is a lost argument from the start, she would likely kick your butt in a raw intelligence competition.
Ciro is actually the lucky one for having found her!
The fake "the woman makes the man" Obama story comes to mind https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/spousal-success-story/ (Obama would never say that in public):
One night President Obama and his wife Michelle decided to do something out of routine and go for a casual dinner at a restaurant that wasn’t too luxurious. When they were seated, the owner of the restaurant asked the President’s Secret Service if he could please speak to the First Lady in private. They obliged and Michelle had a conversation with the owner.
Following this conversation President Obama asked Michelle, "Why was he so interested in talking to you?" She mentioned that in her teenage years, he had been madly in love with her. President Obama then said, "So if you had married him, you would now be the owner of this lovely restaurant," to which Michelle responded, "No. If I had married him, he would now be the President."
Less "China-related" remarks at: https://************.com/ciro-santilli-s-wife
Politics should not be posted in technical websites such as GitHub or Stack Overflow 不应该在技术网站例如Stack Overflow和GitHub讨论政治 contains a more general overview. This contains website specifics.
Stack Overflow is where Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) started his Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击) originally in 2015 as explained at: Why did Ciro Santilli start his keyword attack? (为什么***开始他的关键字攻击？).
For non-programmers, Stack Overflow is by far the leading programmer question and answer forum of the Internet.
A programmer’s daily job involves asking Google about 50 times a day "how to do X", and 90% of the time or more the best answer will be found on the Stack Overflow result that will be one of the top 3 results.
This makes Stack Overflow a fundamental tool of every programmer’s daily jobs.
The current community consensus says that keyword attacks are allowed:
However, you can’t say "Public figure X is disgusting as a person" so [wumao]s, could you please report Ciro making fun of Xi Jinping X and see what they do about it?
Reposts:
Oh, and you can’t criticize God either! https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/231334/is-it-acceptable-to-insult-god-in-a-user-profile
The Chinese law doesn’t allow Ciro’s profile unfortunately: [real-username-law]
Since you will fail through Stack Overflow moderation, please consider instead making a report on the [cac-report-website].
Some non-political China related stuff on Stack Overflow:
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https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/421453/i-have-found-16-809-similar-inappropriate-user-profiles-there-are-more-now Ciro had previously noticed these mass spambot accounts when searching for something
5.21.1.1. Stack Overflow forbids criticizing the character of genocidal political leaders like Xi Jinping
Edit: as was made clearer later on at Stack Overflow mods refuse to clarify if anti-CCP imagery is allowed or not (2021), they just generally refuse to say clearly what is allowed or not.
Ciro was actually quite shocked by this.
He thought more people on Stack Overflow would have sided with him and favored stronger freedom of speech.
But this event made him notice that people in Stack Overflow simply didn’t push back against Ciro’s anti Xi Jinping campaign because they don’t know who the fuck Xi Jinping is, or they don’t care, or they are completely hypocrite and allow criticizing Xi Jinping but not Trump.
But they do know who Trump is, and "offending Trump" makes their feeble little feelings be hurt, and they must maintain their sacred "political correctness" at all costs, even when talking about politicians. Including that the cost of freedom.
This therefore morally justifies the take-down attempts made by hundreds of [wumao]s against Ciro’s anti Xi Jinping content.
First by initiative of Stack Overflow employee Cesar Manara (Brazilian), the sentence:
I think Trump is disgusting as a person
was removed from Ciro’s profile and notified.
In response, Ciro created a meta thread to confirm that the community agreed, and they did: Can I say on my profile that I find that an (ex) president of a country or other major political public figure is “disgusting as a person”? and the community agreed with the removal: it reached only 5 upvotes and 25 downvotes. Ciro’s profile at the time was linked to Trump’s ban on social media: trump-ban-is-bad.md.
Ciro then created If a politician has committed genocide, can I say on my profile they look like Winnie-the-Pooh to insult them because they hate that? was it was also mostly downvoted, and deleted, without any answer. Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210227034430/https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/361493/if-a-politician-has-committed-genocide-can-i-say-on-my-profile-they-look-like-w also reproduced at: #198 (comment) The deletion voters were:
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/215590/polygeo (Australia, big Geographic Information System person, real name based on https://polygeo.com.au/elearning-videos/ "Graeme Browning")
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/135565/journeyman-geek (Singapore). Site elected admin at the time, which implies that his deletion cannot be undone by non-admins. TODO are they born in Singapore? If yes they might also be pro Xi Jinping, which is a clear conflict of interest with freedom of speech. But their English sounds perfect, so Ciro is not sure if it is common for Singapore natives or not.
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/140890/martijn-pieters (UK, lots of Python rep)
There was no yes/no answer by anyone, because the of cowardice and hypocrisy:
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saying "you can" would imply you can criticize Trump
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saying "you can’t" would imply they support genocide
So their brains just tilted, and they clicked the "delete" button as the only possible resolution. The overly speedy deletion of posts was then raised as an issue two days later for an unrelated post: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/405585/can-we-slow-down-on-the-deletes-on-meta-folks
Then Ciro created an answer to "Does the Be Nice policy require SE users to “be nice” to people who are not SE users (e.g. public figures)?" which is a superset of the previous ones referred by them. That post is reproduced at #198 (comment) It cites the case in which the law was tested, but it was single-handedly by journeyman-geek (from Singapore) without any justification.
Ciro then finally updated his profile picture to contain [xi-pooh-photoshop], archive at: https://archive.vn/iV1L8 to test the Winnie-the-Pooh case which people simply refused to answer. Let’s see show that goes. As Ciro learned however, only wumaos will continue to complain, and due to hypocrisy their complaints will be ignored.
Other users who publicly went against freedom of speech in that case (in the name of "political correctness"):
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/665544/bad-coder ("West") replied at: https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/361486/can-i-say-on-my-profile-that-i-find-that-an-ex-president-of-a-country-or-other/361495#361495
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/798831/ollie comments, ciro replies, they delete comment, comments, ciro reply, they delete comment… ciro gives up
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/361486/can-i-say-on-my-profile-that-i-find-that-an-ex-president-of-a-country-or-other?noredirect=1#comment1206900_361486 wants to close as duplicate of uber generic https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/208551/offensive-profiles-where-to-draw-the-line/208553#208553 and says:
we don’t have to host or pay directly or indirectly to support your opinion. That’s well established policy"
Freedom of speech in social media is truly threatened by the Censorship of "politically incorrect speech" (审查政治不正确言论).
Related issue: #198
The deleted answer was https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/83446/gimp-how-to-combine-two-images-side-by-side/145543#145543
Of course, once again, just like mentioned at Stack Overflow forbids criticizing the character of genocidal political leaders like Xi Jinping, people prefer to:
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feel safe and good in their fake cocoon rather than have freedom. While people are dying, right now, in [xinjiang-re-education-camps]
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being fully inclusive means being inclusive to ************ supporters
No archives unfortunately, but:
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reproduced at: #269
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https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/83446/gimp-how-to-combine-two-images-side-by-side/145543#145543 (archive) identical politically correct one
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analogous to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20737061/merge-images-side-by-sidehorizontally/63575228#63575228 (archive)
The full moderation team at the time can be seen publicly at https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/users?tab=moderators (archive) and it also contains:
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https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/users/41100/piebie (archive) Real name: Pieter Biesemans, a front-end developer from Belgium: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pieter-biesemans/
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https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/users/18168/curious (archive) Anonymous, from Canada.
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https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/users/19174/wrzlprmft (archive) Gerrit Ansmann, a brain researcher from Bonn University, Germany: https://idw-online.de/de/news646752
Deletion message:
Hello,
We’re writing in reference to your Graphic Design Stack Exchange account:
We think you are already aware of what we are going to say, but we are going to say it anyway. Stack Exchange is an apolitical platform, and we like to keep politics as for away from our content as possible. Our little nook on the net is about Graphic Design, which has nothing to do with politics (even though it is used in the political arena all the time).
We acknowledge that politic profiles are somewhat allowed as per https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/267368/are-political-avatars-and-profiles-ok, although we do question the usefulness of 'campaigning' through a Stack Exchange profile.
We want to draw the line however at political content. There is no need to use images or other content that might be controversial or cause emotional distress, while another image or content would serve the same function. That is why we deleted you answer on this question.
We want to welcome you on our site and encourage you to keep contributing with answers. Your other answers are fine, and judging by the amount of votes, mostly well-received by the community. You may repost the answer if you can swap out the images for more neutral ones.
At the same time we want to warn you that this type of content will not be tolerated in the future and further infractions may lead to more severe consequences.
Thanks for your understanding an cooperation, we wish you a pleasant experience on GDSE.
Regards,
Graphic Design Stack Exchange Moderation Team
Ciro’s reply:
Hi,
Is this a policy specific to graphic design website, or is it network wide, and is there an open meta question for it?
The mods then changed their discourse to mention spam rules rather than only on the "people will feel bad" aspect:
The code of conduct:
Be inclusive and respectful.
Exposing others to images of violent and traumatic events is not respectful to those on whom those images have a strong effect. This is only acceptable if the topic of the question make this inevitable, which also suffices to warn of those who are triggered by those images: Images about violent events are to be expected in a question about such events, not in a question about concatenating two images.
Rules against spam:
A post should be marked as spam only if it advertises a product, service, or similar and is unsolicited or lacks disclosure. […] Unsolicited means that mentioning the product serves no purpose other than promotion. […]
You were promoting a political position and including the promotional content (instead of a neutral picture) served no purpose other than promotion. It’s analogous to using a picture advertising a product as an example.
OK, the spam argument would likely win.
Ciro then hacked the images to his "The world is perfect" kitsch placeholder, and mods approved it, so here we go.
Ciro was planning the following meta post, but gave up on it:
Can I use political images as placeholders for questions involving images when it does not affect the validity of the answer?
For example when answering the following ImageMagick question: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20737061/merge-images-side-by-sidehorizontally/63575228#63575228 I used an image with political content.
The choice of the placeholder was completely arbitrary, and does not affect the answer in any way.
But today admins of Graphic Design Stack Exchange https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/83446/gimp-how-to-combine-two-images-side-by-side/145543#145543 deleted the post saying it is not allowed on the Graphic Design website.
We want to draw the line however at political content. There is no need to use images or other content that might be controversial or cause emotional distress, while another image or content would serve the same function. That is why we deleted you answer on this question.
The admins mention that on profiles it is OK linking to: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/267368/are-political-avatars-and-profiles-ok but on answers it is not.
So I would like to clarify if:
is this a policy specific to Graphic Design or if it applies to the entire network.
if it applies to the entire network:
Can I use images of myself, Ciro Santilli, or is that currently considered political content?
At https://stackoverflow.com/a/57389607/895245 I needed several images, and I had used a list of USA presidents in chronological order without much thought. Do I have to modify that answer to use another set of images?
and planned answer:
Any images that can be used on a profile picture should also usable as a placeholder
When you answer a question, you should have a very wide choice of what to use as a placeholder.
Politics is a perfectly legal topic, just like flowers, animals, and scenery.
The "can it be used on the profile picture" test should already filter out any content that is deemed unacceptable due to legal concerns.
Another issue is that it is extremely difficult and possibly unfair to classify what is political or not.
Suppose that Ciro Santilli became famous enough outside of programming circles such that he starts to be considered a political subject.
Would his images then start to be considered political content?
But that would be discriminatory against certain people and not others.
Freedom of speech is extremely valuable, and we should be very careful about restricting it.
There are people literally unfairly dying, right now, because they don’t have it.
Do you really want to reduce yours?
The only way to prevent history from repeating itself, is to remember it.
Related spam meta posts:
Let’s see how: https://askubuntu.com/questions/380847/is-it-possible-to-translate-words-via-terminal/1309774 will do, which uses the [yue-xin] letter as a translation placeholder.
This one again highlights the hypocrisy of many people in the West: we decide who is good and who is evil. The CCP is now evil, so you can criticize it, even if it shocks Chinese people. Ah, Nazism shocks us, even though it is an event from the past, so that you can’t do. You can only shock the Chinese people, not us.
Or: we like human rights. But not potentially disturbing someone at work even slightly is more important.
Opened a meta thread for this at: https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/366163/can-i-use-images-such-as-from-tiananmen-square-protests-to-criticise-the-chinese (archive) where the top answer was:
We refuse to make a public decision.
In response, Ciro wrote the following essay on his profile page: stack-exchange-lost-freedom-of-speech.md.
The following quote from Ron Maimon comes to mind:
Unfortunately, when you’re in a minority, the only way to correct the consensus view is to just shout it, and repeat it, until people go and look and check for themselves. The reason is that it creates an adversarial atmosphere where the people have to pick sides, and they don’t like to pick sides, they would rather have everyone be happy. So when you have to pick sides, what do you do? You either butt out, you just leave it alone, you run away. Or you sit and review the evidence until you know which side to pick.
Notable people who went against in the comments:
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/295232/glorfindel from the Netherlands commented "As the Dutch police say "if you’re asking for attention, you get attention".". No attempt to address the question at all. Just a direct "I’m right, you’re wrong, and I’m glad you were punished".
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/282094/rob argues for "anything that raises enough flags should be taken down",
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/353058/holyblackcat "The mods and/or SE staff might not have clear guidelines in place yet, and I bet the last thing they want to do now is to figure out such guidelines to answer your question. If you have to ask, then I would refrain from adding any of that to your profile. Let’s keep excessive politics out of SO."
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/361484/luuklag "Nobody limits your free speech, we don’t withhold you from going out on the street and yell whatever you want. Should SE allow everything on its platform, no. That is the same as you don’t allow everything in your own house." What is it with the Netherlands? They were invaded by Hitler, and now they don’t want to support human rights?
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/135565/journeyman-geek again from Stack Overflow forbids criticizing the character of genocidal political leaders like Xi Jinping
Close voters and reopen voters can be seen publicly at https://web.archive.org/web/20210609071812/https://meta.stackexchange.com/posts/366163/revisions
First close voters:
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https://web.archive.org/web/20210506210343/https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/286501/pierre-vriens presumably from Belgium
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https://web.archive.org/web/20210609000247/https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/798831/ollie again from Stack Overflow forbids criticizing the character of genocidal political leaders like Xi Jinping
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https://web.archive.org/web/20210507002405/https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/154443/rory-alsop Rory Alsop from Scotland. A LinkedIn with matching name and location: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rorya/ states:
I have spent most of the last 20 years not just improving technical security in large and small organisations, but improving security and risk behaviours, awareness and culture in communities."
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https://web.archive.org/web/20210609000250/https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/622284/spevacus "I participate in Charcoal, a user-run group that fights spam and rude/abusive content across the network. Do you hate spam? Drop by Charcoal HQ and help us catch and destroy it!". Interesting! https://github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector
First reopen voters:
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/185080/eliah-kagan Eliah Kagan, this is an awesome Ask Ubuntu dude from New York
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/377214/sonic-the-anonymous-hedgehog
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/707129/xnero presumably from USA based on https://travel.stackexchange.com/users/105447/xnero
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https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/384528/forest-distrusts-stackexchange
The interesting thing is that none of them had the courage to actually say "forbid Tiananmen", "forbid Falun Gong". But they all said "forbid not suitable for work". But they won’t clarify if "not suitable for work" includes "not suitable for work in China".
On 2021-05-29 Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) added almost all images from this page to his Stack Overflow account as shown at: https://archive.ph/nZLgI
On 2021-05-29 Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) was suspended from Meta Stack Exchange for 7 days as shown at https://web.archive.org/web/20210529081019/https://meta.stackexchange.com/users/200117/ciro-santilli%e6%96%b0%e7%96%86%e6%a3%89%e8%8a%b1trump-ban-bad received the following message from moderators:
Hello,
We’re writing in reference to your Meta Stack Exchange account:
We note that you were previously contacted for part of your profile being offensive. It has been brought to our attention that a significant part of your profile is filled with shock pictures, nazi imagery and similar images.
We’d note that people do use this site at work, and while users have some freedom over the content of their profile, there are fairly obvious lines that shouldn’t be crossed.
We do not recommend that you restore the content we removed - specifically the images without checking back with us.
We have temporarily suspended your account; you may return after 7 days.
Regards, Meta Stack Exchange Moderation Team
As can be publicly seen at https://web.archive.org/web/20210506210320/https://stackexchange.com/about/moderators the list of moderators of that website at the time was:
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ChrisF from the United Kingdom
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Journeyman Geek who previously also showed up at: Stack Overflow forbids criticizing the character of genocidal political leaders like Xi Jinping
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Tinkeringbell from the Netherlands
Ciro replied:
Hello,
Could you clarify if the following types of images are OK or not:
people imprisoned in Xinjiang concentration camps
Tiananmen square protests
making fun of Xi Jinping
Falun Gong persecution
supposing that they show no explicit gore or violence?
All the above are considered highly shocking to many Chinese people, due in part to their strict censorship rules, and not suitable for the workplace in China.
I have been using such images for many years to criticize what I believe are terrible events in China, and the decision so far has been that I was allowed to use them.
The intent of the Nazi images is clearly to compare both regimes to criticize the Chinese Government, which I believe is following the same path as the Nazis (e.g. Concentration Camps in Xinjiang, no freedom of speech, etc.), to help prevent such abuses from happening again in the future.
I just want to clearly understand the rationale of of why anti-CCP images are OK, but anti-Nazi ones aren’t, so I can follow your rules correctly and save everyone’s time in the future by correctly deciding which images are OK or not.
Cheers.
On their next reply, they tried to dodge a directly reply, but suggested that anti-CCP imagery is forbidden:
Could you clarify if the following types of images are OK or not:
Its not the 'topic' but rather the content.
All the above are considered highly shocking to many Chinese people, due in part to their strict censorship rules, and not suitable for the workplace in China.
Well if your intent is to shock - don’t. These are your words, not ours - and hopefully reflects a better understanding of what’s not acceptable.
I just want to clearly understand the rationale of of why anti-CCP images are OK, but anti-Nazi ones aren’t, so I can follow your rules correctly and save everyone’s time in the future by correctly deciding which images are OK or not.
We never said that. We gave specific examples of objectionable content. If you realise something isn’t suitable - that it is something shocking, and not suitable for the workplace, as you seem to realise, it shouldn’t be on your profile.
In short, we believe you have a very clear idea, from your own response, of what’s not acceptable, and we hope you exercise better judgement in this regard in future.
Ciro’s Reply:
We never said that. We gave specific examples of objectionable content. If you realise something isn’t suitable - that it is something shocking, and not suitable for the workplace, as you seem to realise, it shouldn’t be on your profile.
My intent is to convey extremely important information, not to shock.
However, in ************s like China, extremely important information is forbidden for unfair reasons, and therefore shocking.
We never said that. We gave specific examples of objectionable content. If you realise something isn’t suitable - that it is something shocking, and not suitable for the workplace, as you seem to realise, it shouldn’t be on your profile.
You forbade any Nazi imagery clearly, including to criticize the Nazis, so that is clear and I will never again add Nazi imagery.
All anti-CCP content is extremely shocking to many Chinese people (but not others). And it is not suitable for the workplace for anyone there, that is unquestionable.
Therefore, from your reply, I understand that anti-CCP content is not allowed because it is not suitable for the workplace in China, as it is shocking.
Is this understand correct? Can you please confirm very clearly and directly: do you forbid all anti-CCP imagery or not? And if it is just a partial ban, what is allowed and what is not more precisely?
My understanding from top answers at: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/349131/users-political-display-name-triggering-government-action-against-users-who-vie is that such criticism of the CCP is allowed on the website, even though it is clearly not suitable for the workplace in China.
Sorry to ask this further, but I need a clearer guideline so I can follow it.
For non-Stack Overflow specific ones see: [chinese-dissidents]
Query to find them: https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/312860/chinese-dissidents-by-keyword-aboutme-or-displayname
Notable ones only here (high rep or innovative criticism):
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"GNUSupporter 8964**女神 地下教會"
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Real name: Vincent Tam from social media links.
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https://math.stackexchange.com/users/290189/gnusupporter-8964**女神-地下教會#
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Keyword attack inspired by me
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Yu Hao
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"GFW (Great Firewall of China) is one of the most notorious inventions in the history of Internet. Anyone working for it should be ashamed."
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gotqn
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"Free Tibet From China Domination"
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https://web.archive.org/web/20190821105901/https://stackoverflow.com/users/1080354/gotqn
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Scott 混合理论
The same message as Yu Hao, I wonder if it is an external thing or direct copy of Yu, but no Google hits besides them.
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Terry Wang
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Lego recreation of Tankman on the profile picture: [lego-tank-man]
Users who had GFW references but removed it:
Misc interesting stuff:
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<location>火车站酒店小姐 (about 20 accounts with that pattern)
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Interesting list of prostitution spam/sockpuppets? All have the exact same profile information.
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Hitting query due to "审查", but the usage is unrelated to the Firewall.
Query to find them: https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/312863/mentioned-ciro-santilli-on-aboutme-or-displayname
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https://stackoverflow.com/users/815408
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username: "请封掉Ciro Santilli **共产党**"
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profile: "****！ **共产党**！ **功，民运，台独在**共产党的铁蹄下不过是螳臂当车！"
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https://web.archive.org/web/20200830192811/https://stackoverflow.com/users/815408/lookintoeast became a coward, renamed to "LookIntoEast"
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https://web.archive.org/web/20200910172706/https://stackoverflow.com/questions/63464732/how-to-set-a-custom-image-height-for-an-image-in-asciidoctor more shitcomments "可惜啊**一天比一天强大繁荣，**的实力碾压你们轮子跟捏死一只蚂蚁那么简单。哈哈哈哈", Yes, the CCP is very good at putting old ladies in jail. A great thing to be proud of.
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left 3 "offensive" comments and downvoted some posts. Flagged them all. Easy suspension, 7 days, 3 downvotes reversed as "Serial voting reversed":
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https://web.archive.org/web/20210706074306/https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67750849/how-to-filter-by-event-type-in-chrome-devtools-profile-tab-e-g-to-see-mouse-cli?noredirect=1#comment120649535_67750849 快看，你轮子老婆正被野男人按在床上疯狂X！！！ 因为你性无能！哈哈哈哈哈哈。轮子狗都是这种下场
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https://web.archive.org/web/20210706074342/https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67773885/how-to-return-a-404-not-found-page-and-http-status-when-an-invalid-parameter-of/67773886?noredirect=1#comment120649386_67773886 快看！你老婆这只轮子🐔，一直被不同男人X呢！那个地方被X到流脓！因为你性无能哦，所以不停被你轮子老婆戴绿帽子！
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https://web.archive.org/web/20210706074248/https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67787456/what-is-the-difference-between-fallback-false-vs-true-vs-blocking-of-getstaticpa?noredirect=1#comment120649323_67787456 轮子狗死全家！！！！！快看**刚被车撞死了！脑浆 一直喷！
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mentioned at https://v2ex.com/t/378274 from [v2ex]
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a questions only account, not many intelligent CCP supporters out there of course. 2020 edit mentions: https://web.archive.org/web/20200910173714/https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7152762/how-to-redirect-print-output-to-a-file-using-python mentions "How time flies. Almost 10 years ago I started to work on bioinformatics without any coding skills. Then I gave up my PhD and previous career and becomes a pure software engineer."
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https://stackoverflow.com/users/8454187
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username: "Snowden Assange Wounded Knee"
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profile: "燃(ri)烧(si)您(ni)的(de)梦(ma)，Ciro Santilli. StackOverflow上的一个用户. The Oliver Stone Experience"
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explanation:
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"燃烧您的梦": http://www.nq6.com/dj/1674.html
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"Wounded Knee": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Massacre
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GitHub is the new [xidan-democracy-wall]! :) See also: Politics should not be posted in technical websites such as GitHub or Stack Overflow 不应该在技术网站例如Stack Overflow和GitHub讨论政治.
Interesting repositories are listed at: GitHub repositories with censored information (政治敏感的GitHub库)
GitHub’s site policy can be seen at: https://help.github.com/en/github/site-policy
If you believe this page violates those policies, see: How to report a user on GitHub (GitHub上怎么举报用户？).
China’s GitHub censorship history is documented at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_GitHub#China, some events:
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2019-07-29 https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/29/github-ban-sanctioned-countries/ "GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea". "As part of the push, Friedman said GitHub has enforced new restrictions to prevent users in sanctioned countries from accessing private repositories and GitHub Marketplace, as well as maintaining private paid organization accounts"
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https://github.com/1995parham/github-do-not-ban-us protest repo against the sanctions, archived as of 2020-08
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1995parham/github-do-not-ban-us#1010 "Use gitee from china" recommending Gitee
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Related:
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[censorship-circumvention] contains some anti-censorship repositories
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https://www.quora.com/Is-GitHub-com-allowed-in-China/answer/Ciro-Santilli
Part of the beauty of Git is that it makes it very easy for anyone to create a new mirror of the content, thus forming a type of digital Samizdat.
Ciro learned this term from the Bitcoin presentation by Dan Kaminsky: https://************.com/cool-data-embedded-in-the-bitcoin-blockchain/len-sassaman-tribute#video-black-ops-of-tcp-ip-by-dan-kaminsky-2011 and Bitcoin has also been used in China, see Anti-CCP content in the Bitcoin blockchain (在比特币区块链的反**内容)
Click the report abuse button on Ciro’s profile, which links to: https://github.com/contact/report-abuse?report=************+%28user%29 or you can just contacat support@github.com
If you do so, please feel free to also open an issue on this repository saying why you believe the site policy has been violated.
Those issues will be marked with: https://github.com/************/china-************/issues?q=label%3Aabuse-report+
It will be fun to watch you try, and fail.
This is because you do not understand how important the concept of freedom of speech is in the West, and how amazing it feels when you are right, and it protects you.
The only thing that would work is if the Chinese government makes a gov-takedown on this repo: GitHub gov-takedowns (由其各自政府在某个国家审查的仓库的GitHub官方列表), in which case: Strategy if this repo gets added to GitHub gov-takedowns (如果此 repo 被添加到 GitHub gov-takedowns 中的策略).
In order to get this repository in gov-takedown, your best bet is to use the [cac-report-website].
admin.github.com hits to ************.com:
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2021-05-21
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2019-09
admin.github.com hits to GitHub repository:
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2021-05-30 6 from 1 user
Bibliography:
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https://github.com/community/community/discussions, previously: https://github.com/github/feedback/discussions
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2022 https://github.com/github/feedback/discussions/12641 Please shut down this repository of malicious smears/ethnic division/nothing to do with open source technology/misperception among teenagers by https://github.com/Yorksh1re. Deleted: https://web.archive.org/web/20220310124004/https://github.com/github/feedback/discussions/12641
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https://www.zhihu.com/question/388634161 如果举报github上的这种情况？ (How to report this type of circunstance on GitHub.) Question links to [evil-man].
A few answers then started mentioning github.com/************/china-************:
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2021-08-15 https://www.zhihu.com/question/388634161/answer/2062103232 "主楼的没了，这个存在一年左右了，有人来举报吗？" (The repo the OP mentioned ([evil-man]) does not exist anymore. Did anyone report this one?). Real answer: because Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) is not Chinese, you cannot arrest him like you arrested the author of [evil-man].
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2021-08-224 https://www.zhihu.com/question/388634161/answer/2080367170 "大家一起举报上面内容" (Let’s everybody report the above content together) with a screenshot: https://pic3.zhimg.com/v2-15efd54f1a16e17ef1ae77702b03bb88_r.jpg?source=1940ef5c. Ah, the beauty of it.
One of the answers recommends the following message:
Hello, I’d like to report a person who abused Github, this person has created multiple accounts and added some offensive repo, these repo are not related to technology and disgusting content, causing many users to search this spam repo. These contents violate the Github’s terms, I hope Github can banned this account.
Poor [wumao]s. With this language/intonation, they are off to a bad start from th emessage itself. Reblogged:
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https://www.zhihu.com/question/388634161/answer/2112339988 shows how to do it with adblock plus by removing specific page elements for the search. Similar to greasefork methods mentioned at Keyword attack profiles disturb me (关键字攻击个人资料页打扰我).
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https://www.zhihu.com/question/388634161/answer/2101125957 does not understan what off topic means, and says that the attack is worse on Stack Overflow and rants Politics should not be posted in technical websites such as GitHub or Stack Overflow 不应该在技术网站例如Stack Overflow和GitHub讨论政治. Due to their limited English, they do not seem to realize that both keyword attacks are by the same person, Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的).
It appears according to [greatfire] however that there are some important GitHub censored subdomains, notably:
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https://raw.githubusercontent.com, from which images and other downloads are served. Therefore all images served from GitHub should be broken in China
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https://gist.github.com, https://en.greatfire.org/https/gist.github.com: meh, that’s useless, just create a github.com/notes repo and dump your stuff there
However, at least for raw, [geoscreenshot] disagrees:
More information:
This official GitHub repository tracks which repositories are blocked in specific countries.
GitHub has absolute transparency about Government takedowns, which is awesome: https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/tree/master/China
This makes that repo into a list of fun things.
As of 2019-05 there had only been only two takedowns by China however, compared to dozens by [russia]. The Chinese commies are not big fans of transparency it seems.
As of 2020-03, besides the Zhao takedown, all other takedowns happened in 2019, and most seem to be [falun-gong]/[epoch-times] sponsored ways to climb the wall.
The message GitHub shows on the blocked countries is:
Repository unavailable in your location
This repository is currently disabled in your location. For more details please see the takedown notice.
Here are some examples of people reacting to the blocking of programthink/zhao#38 as per https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/blob/78775b09e64d85f08547287cab204b48b2491192/China/2016/2016-06-08-programthink-zhao.md from China (and likely on the entire repository, which appears to be the block granularity implemented):
See also: [programthink]
To check China only takedowns such as this, we cannot use Great Fire Analyzer, which reports the page as accessible: the only tool Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) could find so far to capture a page from China a bit like Web Archive was: [geoscreenshot]
5.21.2.4.1. Strategy if this repo gets added to GitHub gov-takedowns (如果此 repo 被添加到 GitHub gov-takedowns 中的策略)
If this happens, we well proceed to create alternative repos china-************-2, china-************-3, etc. and it would be fun to see how that gets handled.
Edit: [china-************-chinese-web-browser-block], Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) decided to create: https://github.com/************/china-************-2 even though the repository hadn’t been added to gov-takedowns.
Ciro then later renamed it to https://github.com/************/china-dictatorhsip-2 with an intentional typo to make the censorship noise even greater.
Can Github add an entire user to gov-takedowns? We shall find out.
Ciro also created a separate org for it to also prevent simple username blocks: https://github.com/coding-stuffs/china-dictatorshrip
But remember that we also have: Mirrors of this page (此网页的镜像), and that this can be easily rendered as a single HTML page and uploaded to any static website host.
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2022-05-10 https://github.com/coding-stuffs/china-dictatorshrip and https://github.com/************/china-dictatorhsip-2/graphs/traffic traffic went mysteriously from 30 and 20 unique daily visitors respectively to just 1 or 2
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2022-05-17 renamed https://github.com/coding-stuffs/china-dictatorshrip to https://github.com/codin-stuffs/cihna-dictatorshrip to see if the is a URL-based browser block. Keeping https://github.com/************/china-dictatorhsip-2 unchanged for now as a control. 2022-05-18 immediately back to 175. Then since 05-20 fell to 30/daily as before. I wonder where the 175 came from. Maybe there is some fast-track block that does not fully block?
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2022-05-19 renamed https://github.com/************/china-dictatorhsip-2 to https://github.com/************/china-dictatorhsip-3 to see if traffic also goes back up like coding-stuffs. Do wumaos know their regexes? Traffic immediately back to 50/60 daily.
Skipping all [falun-gong]/[epoch-times] repos with very few stars, mostly some [gfw] skip methods, those are noise, and possibly added only to dilute the real deal.
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https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/blob/master/China/2019/2019-11-06-MPS.md
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https://github.com/greatfire/wiki Wiki of [greatfire]. [censorship-circumvention]. Precise issue: https://github.com/greatfire/wiki/issues/166 (no archives).
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https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/blob/master/China/2019/2019-12-12-MPS.md
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GitHub has a veru little known feature called:
This repository may contain objectionable content
TODO exact Chinese phrase on UI.
When GitHub admins set this on a repository, it has the following effects:
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the repository cannot be seen by logged off users! Trying to do that results in a redirect. This puts such repositories at great disadvantage on search engine optimization
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the first time you visit the repository, they ask you if you want to continue
This is not a transparent mechanism, as it does not clearly state why the repository has objectionable content.
Known repositories with that enabled:
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duty-machine GitHub account (责任机器GitHub用户) as of August 2021 https://github.com/duty-machine/duty-machine:
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2021-08-18 [wayback-machine]: redirects to login: https://web.archive.org/web/20210818110306/https://github.com/login?return_to=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fduty-machine%2Fduty-machine
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2021-08-18 [archive-today]: https://archive.ph/jtX4p shows the actual message since it uses a logged-in user for its archives
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https://github.com/Yanqiu-gui/-. Appears to be some kind of textual softporn repo.
TODO: Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) once saw that message when visiting: Yanqiu-gui/-#5 on 2021-05-19 for the first time, but not on the following ones.
How does that message get added exactly?
And you are forced you to login to view that repository!
Incredible, a hidden undocumented semi-hide-repo feature.
Here’s an archive: https://archive.ph/VJQdD That click wall also prevents archives of the repository therefore.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9966118 GitHub threatens to shut down a repository for using the word 'retard' (2015)
For our mirror there, see: Gitee censorship (Gitee 审查).
Linked to "Open Source China" (开源**) according to TechCrunch:
The project will be carried out by a consortium led by Open Source China, the Shenzhen-based firm behind its namesake open-source community and Gitee.
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https://github.com/oschina GitHub OAuth goes through that organization
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https://www.oschina.net/ their website
At https://gitee.com/mirrors they mirrors 21 thousand repositories as of 2021, updating them daily, with the goal of having "higher download speeds" in mainland China. Not that their speed is shit because of censorships of course.
Mirrors containing Ciro’s keywords or related interesting stuff:
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https://gitee.com/alexi126/linux-kernel-module-cheat https://archive.vn/wip/aDWVq
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https://toscode.gitee.com/rpbf/vim-snippets/blob/master/AUTHORS#L67 https://archive.vn/wip/MuuoK "Ciro Santilli **事件"
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sensitive domain lists:
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https://gitee.com/aiqz/pac ans specifically https://gitee.com/aiqz/pac/blob/master/pac.txt contains a proxy list with
||************.com, which is a decoded version of the base-64 encoded [gfwlist] normally used for [censorship-circumvention]. Lol.
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sensitive word lists. In censoring, we display. It is fun to see how they censor at every level, including the keyboard input method. Fear is everywhere, [newspeak] must be enforced at all costs:
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https://gitee.com/markxx/tochat/blob/dev/tochat.sql even website project templates must come with a censored word list: https://gitee.com/markxx/tochat/blob/dev/tochat.sql#L6299 "**事件"
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https://gitee.com/aiban_junjie_fan/sensitive_words/blob/master/words.txt
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https://gitee.com/bryan31/liteBanner/blob/master/src/main/resources/sensi_words.txt
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https://gitee.com/thinksaas/thinksaas/blob/master/install/install.sql#L138
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https://gitee.com/guobinyong/wubixinshiji/blob/master/wubixinshiji.dict.yaml is a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_method input program
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https://gitee.com/latpaw/emacs/blob/master/site-lisp/eim/cjeb.txt#L10288. This interesting emacs config appears to expand e.g.
fclginto**功on tab complete. Nice.
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As of 2021, it requires login to see:
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commit history: https://gitee.com/mirrors/luarocks-build-xmake/commit/8b18f1f62ba26944f117ed549ddaeea210fbdd6e History must be controlled, history is dangerous. See also Baidu Baike, [baidu-baike-censorship-of-hao-haidong]:
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files larger than 1MB: https://gitee.com/xkinput/xklbs/blob/master/星二S词库.txt
Lol.
News:
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2020-11-10 https://www.theregister.com/2020/11/10/gitee_linux_foundation_china_mirror/ "China’s government-anointed Git operator says it will become a Linux Foundation mirror"
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[huawei] open sourced is Harmony OS "IoT operating system" in Gitee: https://openharmony.gitee.com/openharmony
The name of that OS is pure gold considering the Chinese origin, since "to harmonize" is often used as a way to say "to censor negative CCP information".
That URL also likely highlights Huawei’s intense influence on Gitee, the as the custom domain redirects to it: https://openharmony.gitee.com, as opposed to what normal users can likely create https://gitee.com/openharmony.
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2020-08-21 https://techcrunch.com/2020/08/21/china-is-building-its-github-alternative-gitee/ "China is building a GitHub alternative called Gitee"
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) commented about his Gitee censorship (Gitee 审查) experiment there, it got 26 upvotes 13 downvotes, and as removed as "This post violated our policy.". There is no way to appeal that in that idiotic system. It is absed on: https://www.openweb.com/ It is also bugged as fuck. Sometimes says violates policy, then there’s a JavaScript update andthe comment shows.
After posting our Mirrors of this page (此网页的镜像) there, it was blocked in 12 hours:
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https://gitee.com/************/china-************
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archive immediately after creation: https://web.archive.org/web/20200821202450if_/https://gitee.com/************/china-************
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blocked archive 12 hours later: https://web.archive.org/web/20200822111436/https://gitee.com/************/china-************
{"status":404,"data":null,"message":"404 Not Found"}
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https://gitee.com/************
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archive immediately after: https://web.archive.org/web/20200821202055/https://gitee.com/************
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archive 12 hours later: https://web.archive.org/web/20200822111721/https://gitee.com/************
{"status":403,"data":null,"message":"The user has been blocked"}
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The block email is:
通知
仓库 ************/China ************ 已被锁定
原因： 根据相关法律法规和政策，本仓库暂停访问。
Other known blocked china-************ forks:
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https://gitee.com/jaime_li/china-************ no archives, can’t find another account by the same user, but got a backlink 2021-06-22
Automatically generated list of repos with Chinese characters in their descriptions with the most upvotes per programming language.
github.com/************/china-************ appeared on the front page at one point: https://github.com/kon9chunkit/GitHub-Chinese-Top-Charts/tree/73ef00e9f846dd380769095f08648e5e1a06596f Let’s see how long until it gets censored.
At GrowingGit/GitHub-Chinese-Top-Charts#177 a [wumao] asked "为什么一些奇怪的项目也能进榜单？" (Why can some weird projects appear in the project list?)
Also reproduced at: https://www.w3cschool.cn/article/22061212.html
The Chinese Quora clone, but highly censored: Zhihu censorship (知乎审查).
Some interesting questions not related to Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的). Ciro related questions at: Zhihu questions related to Ciro Santilli (***相关的知乎问题).
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https://www.zhihu.com/question/29279520/answer/110611566 "为什么有人一边支持审查制度一边还喜欢看美剧、日漫？" "Why are some people in favor of censorship, but at the same time still like to watch American series?" (archive)
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Censorship in Zhihu
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https://www.zhihu.com/question/23376181 "你对知乎的审查系统有何意见？" "What is your view of Zhihu’s censorship system?" (archive) "由于众所周知的原因，知乎上的文章和答案一旦涉及某些字眼，就会触发审查，其方式是让你的文字暂时仅自己可见"
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https://www.zhihu.com/question/21099730 从知乎建站以来被封禁的用户都有哪些？Since Zhihu’s founding, which accounts have been blocked on the website? (archive) (archive). The top answer contains a list, and a brief explanation of why some of them were banned:
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Ciro Santilli: S/O 红人 (fStack Overflow celebrity)
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"ww" in explanations means "big laugh" according to: https://hinative.com/zh-CN/questions/8349706 because a single "w" means a small laugh
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several accounts are linked to one specific answer or comment
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other accounts are classified as often commenting on [politically-sensitive] material
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https://www.zhihu.com/question/27659795 (blocked as of 2020-04, archive from 2015) 家里有人练**功是一种怎样的体验？ How is it like to live with Falun Gong believers?
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https://www.zhihu.com/question/23988890 (blocked as of 2020-04, 2016-03 archive) "全能神教在境外，**功也在境外，为什么他们不祸害境外人民、偏偏只祸害大陆人？"Eastern Lightning exists outside of the country [China], Falun Gong exists outside of the country, so why is is that they don’t harm people in those countries, but only harm people in Mainland China?"
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https://www.zhihu.com/question/370080866/answer/1046195468 "为什么**影视作品不允许LGBT的出现？" "Why is it not allowed to show LGBT content in Chinese film and television?" (archive)
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More general censorship discussion at: [censorship].
Examples of Zhihu censorship:
Other discussions:
On this day, not only the posts made by Ciro himself were deleted: he had never asked any questions or made any Zhuanlan posts himself, only replied to those. But that content made by other users was still removed. Therefore, this is not just a simple user ban, but active censorship.
Ciro received an email from account@mail.zhihu.com:
您好，Ciro Santilli，很抱歉您的回答受到了牵连，您回答过的问题「github.com@************ 是谁维护的，为什么会收集邮箱地址？」因「违反互联网相关法律法规」已被删除。
followed by Ciro’s answer to github.com@************ 是谁维护的，为什么会收集邮箱地址？. Ciro could not login anymore, the login screen showed:
帐号已停用，请联系：user@zhihu.com
So likely someone must have used the fact that this was an edgy personally information release subject issue, and then someone from Zhihu decided to purge Ciro and anyone posts that ever talked about him.
Ciro’s blocked account:
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before deletion: https://web.archive.org/web/20190821075907/https://www.zhihu.com/people/************/activities
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after deletion (redirects to login page): https://web.archive.org/web/20191103071033/https://www.zhihu.com/signin?next=http://www.zhihu.com/people/************/activities
Random unblocked control account: https://www.zhihu.com/people/lu-zhen-yu-96-65/activities (archive).
Furthermore, all questions related to Ciro, including the posts criticizing him such as https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/25600138 (archive), were taken down. This made Ciro laugh: in China, you can’t even criticize that which is censored, or your post also gets taken down.
Ciro then created an anonymous Zhihu account after this event.
Interestingly however, the following answer came up later on: Answer to the Zhihu question "How do you evaluate Ted Chiang’s 'Evil Chinese Characters' essay?" "如何评价姜峯楠（Ted Chiang）在纽约客上的随笔《坏汉字》？"的回答 and stayed up for at least 5 months, which indicates that Zhihu did a one-off removal, and did not set up a filter for Ciro’s name.
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) was banned from Zhihu on 2018-06-25 for "[politically-sensitive]" content.
As a result, since that time I will be answering Zhihu questions as issues in this repo with the zhihu label: https://github.com/************/china-************/issues?q=label%3Azhihu+
I have however never posted anything politically sensitive on Zhihu, unless my name and profile picture have reached that distinction, and therefore the ban is clearly an unfair per-person ban.
But of course, all is fair in love and war, and politics.
Posting any sensitive content on Chinese websites is a waste of time, since it only means that they will be removed and you will waste time creating a new account, I will never do that.
The only significant content I ever posted on Zhihu is the answer to: https://www.zhihu.com/question/46957710/answer/122827944 which is purely technical, and trivial replies on threads that other people have started about me. Have those people been blocked like me?
My posts are still up and it does not appear to be possible for people to see that I have been banned, but whenever I try to take any action on the website a popup appears saying:
由于严重违反 知乎社区管理规定 ，该帐号已被永久禁言
This includes liking, commenting, answering, asking or trying to update my profile to say that I have been blocked.
This message also shows on my public page for everyone to see: https://www.zhihu.com/people/************/activities but they use some JavaScript scheme complicated enough that archive.is cannot capture it.
I still get notifications however, but I am unable to reply to them, especially given that all Chinese accounts, unlike mine, have no personal identifiable information due to the understandable fear Chinese citizens have of their own government, even though such accounts might be illegal in theory: [anonymous-account-ban].
The only action that I can take now is to report abusive comments people make to me.
Obviously, the only effect of such ban is that I will create an anonymous account under Tor with a second cell phone if I wish to contribute in the future, and China will have less information about my political interests than before.
The private messages the website sends while banning you are:
知乎管理员 ：您好，根据用户举报，您的帐号发布了「政治敏感」内容，帐号已根据知乎社区规范被永久禁言。处理详情可查看社区服务中心。具体规范请查看知乎社区管理规定。 6月25日 16:37 回复 | 删除
知乎管理员 ：您好，根据用户举报，您的部分个人信息由于不符合知乎用户信息管理规范已被重置。用户名可以在设置页面中修改，修改后会自动进入审核等待通过；其他个人信息可以在个人主页中编辑。感谢您对知乎社区的理解和支持。 6月25日 16:37 回复 | 删除
Those messages contain links to: https://www.zhihu.com/terms2 | https://archive.is/wdXSz and https://www.zhihu.com/question/19551824 | https://archive.is/BrgV2
The ban came soon after I posted a link to my GitHub repo as a comment at: https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/21/ice-employee-list-github-linkedin/ maybe they are related.
At the same time the ban happened I received a public comment from user "Eureka" https://www.zhihu.com/people/crb912/activities | https://archive.is/1F3t6 on this thread: https://www.zhihu.com/question/46957710 | https://archive.is/PVOLd saying:
你滥用了github， 也滥用了Stackover。这个一个纯粹计算机、编程和知识分享的地方，请不要带入政治性的色彩。请不要这么做， 维护社区的非政治性、中立和技术性纯粹，是每个热爱cs的人应尽的义务。
I am unable to get a URL that shows the comment on archive.is, so I have no proof of this claim. If you trust me, then here is a screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/YCiEEax
Since I expect the ban lists to be private, I find it extremely likely that this was the user who reported me, unless both were simultaneously triggered by a third event which I have not seen. So correct me if I’m wrong here.
Users with the same user id crb912, related "Eureka" username or same profile picture, can be found at:
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https://www.weibo.com/crb912 (unable to archive) on [weibo]
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https://github.com/crb912 | https://archive.is/heGfd which suggests a possible real name
By Googling the email found on the GitHub repos, we find: http://www.360doc.com/content/15/0809/11/25724933_490492490.shtml | https://archive.is/2UnGL which might, at last, contain a photo of my nemesis.
My public message to the reporter whomever he may be:
While you have also raised issues that were raised a thousand times before, and clearly answered in the FAQ, at least you were able to take some actual action leading to an actual ban, and I respect you for that.
I hope that one day you will redirect that cunning and initiative towards taking down the root cause of the problem, which are the Chinese communist Party and their Firewall themselves.
Parent section: [backlinks]
All Zhihu posts related to Ciro Santilli were deleted following Ciro Santilli’s Zhihu purge 2019-11-03 (***被知乎抹去). Some had been deleted before.
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2019-06-12: https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/68869259 (archive before deletion, (archive after deletion)) "德国极端分子黑我们大**！犯我中华者，虽远必诛！！". Ciro wonders why the poster thought Ciro was German.
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2019-03: https://www.zhihu.com/question/316700162 (archive before deletion, (archive after deletion)) "如何看待Github Trending上Ciro Santilli的众多开源项目？". Due to: https://github.com/************/x86-bare-metal-examples being featured on Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19428700
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2018-11: https://www.zhihu.com/question/302738350 (archive before deletion, (archive after deletion)) "如何评价Ciro Santilli对Stack Overflow和GitHub的扰乱？"
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2017-03-07: https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/25600138 (archive before deletion, (archive after deletion)) "StackOverflow 上的一个智障用户"
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2017-03 https://sololand.moe/2017/03/06/brain-fucked-user-on-stackoverflow (archive) by https://github.com/brglng/ (archive) "StackOverflow 上的一个智障用户" contains a copy of the post by the same author.
It just makes Ciro smile whenever he thinks that their post criticizing Ciro was deleted by the CCP, and they still might support the CCP, Stockholm syndrome comes to mind.
As of 2020, that website generates a constant stream of incoming traffic to the issue it links to: https://github.com/************/chat/issues/26. Unfortunately brglng was a coward and removed his comments leaving the conversation a bit broken, and this was before Ciro web archived obsessively.
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2015-08-18: https://www.zhihu.com/question/34775392 (archive before deletion, (archive after deletion)) "你们怎么看stackoverflow上某人故意屏蔽**访问的事件？"
A random control question that shows that archive.org 404’s are actually deleted questions: https://www.zhihu.com/question/316700165 (archive).
Mentions not yet deleted as of writing:
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google在国内被封的具体原因是什么？ What are some concrete reasons why google was blocked? https://archive.ph/bFUoL links to: https://github.com/************/china-dictatorhsip-2/tree/master/evil-man indicating that the main Mirrors of this page (此网页的镜像) is blocked but that one isn’t.
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https://www.zhihu.com/question/21099730 at Zhihu (知乎, censored Quora clone, 审查 Quora 克隆)
5.21.4.2.1. Answer to the Zhihu question "How do you evaluate Ted Chiang’s 'Evil Chinese Characters' essay?" "如何评价姜峯楠（Ted Chiang）在纽约客上的随笔《坏汉字》？"的回答
Contains reactions to the post: Evil Chinese Characters by Ted Chiang (坏汉字由Ted Chiang), and this answer says that even though Ciro Santilli is amazingly smart, he cannot be bothered to learn Chinese characters, quoting Ciro’s comments from: Does Ciro Santilli speak Chinese? (***会说中文吗？).
This post was interesting because it happened after Ciro Santilli’s Zhihu purge 2019-11-03 (***被知乎抹去), which indicates that Zhihu did not setup an automated "Ciro Santilli" filter.
Asked in 2016-09 after Ciro published: https://github.com/************/all-github-commit-emails
Deleted after Ciro Santilli’s Zhihu purge 2019-11-03 (***被知乎抹去). Ciro’s answer before deletion:
你用的git config user.email当然是公开的：谁都会git clone就知道了。
问题就是git repository很大，我们不会都clone.
但是github有一个API，收集很多信息，包括邮件。
然后，Google用了那个API给他们的https://cloud.google.com/bigquery/…信息。
BigQuery对程序员很容易提取信息，是我用的。
我发表邮件以后，两个东西变化了：
Google 把邮件从BigQuery删除
GitHub 更新他们的隐私声明GitHub Privacy Statement
这就是我的木比：保护人们的隐私权
我的README.md更详细地解释。
Quora is a generally shitty website, with mechanisms that allow wumaos to quench freedom of speech.
Quora is a major platform for Astroturfing.
Ironically, as usual, is it also blocked in China:
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according to [greatfire]: https://en.greatfire.org/https/www.quora.com
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2018-03 news coverage https://www.businessinsider.com/china-banned-zhihu-over-censorship-2018-3?r=US&IR=T
Examples of activity related to Ciro Santilli:
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2016 Ciro Santilli’s profile was blocked because it had Chinese keywords on both my username and credentials. Justification: "non-English".
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2017 created one in English: Cook Tiananmen Square Noodle Shop, from [falun-sweden]
Added my Noodle shop to maps: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Tiananmen+Square+Noodle+Shop/@60.6132538,15.6687509,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x94603408e3c63fb3!8m2!3d60.6132538!4d15.6687509
Leach websites that picked it up: https://kvalster.se/Falu/Uthyres/Lagenheter/Gammelvagen_49_1417351
Quora is also shitty because wumaos can downvote your answer privately regardless of reputation and make it become collapsed as "Answer may need improvement", which means it goes to the bottom and readers have to click an "expand collapsed answers" button to see it, so that very few people will ever see it.
Then have to appeal and wait for moderators to evaluate it.
This happened for example at: https://www.quora.com/What-would-happen-if-I-walked-around-Beijing-with-a-t-shirt-that-said-freedom-of-speech-is-pretty-great/answer/Ciro-Santilli (see also [t-shirt]).
Ciro appealed in 2020-03-10 and the answer was reinstated on day later, but by then the question was already not being suggested as much to readers, and the other wumao answers (which criticize the USA rather than answering the question about China).
While there is some probability that the answers themselves are not wumaos, their upvoters almost certainly are and must be investigated.
Other shitty aspects of Quora include:
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block [wayback-machine] archives with their robots.txt, gotta use [archive-today]
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automatically add random topics that you don’t care about to your suggestions, with no easy way to prevent that.
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questions cannot have more than one sentence. There used to be a question body, but it was replaced with a "link for context". Ridiculous.
As a result, on the few occasions that Ciro posts on Quora, all content will also be mirrored here. Ciro’s China Quora answers include:
Some wumaos:
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http://archive.is/WzIcg: a Han supremacist!
Related posts:
Popular Taiwanese forum system and server from 1995, pre HTML, works from telnet terminal, so likely very programmer heavy, and obviously anti-CCP, as of 2020 often shows [falun-gong] ads.
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的)'s appearances on PTT:
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2020-10-09: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/joke/M.1602211516.A.3FB.html 如何一秒惹怒中國人 (how to provoke a Chinese person in one second) by abc60575986 saying "台灣是一個國家" (Taiwan is a country). Then kugwa linked to Ciro Santilli’s Stack Overflow profile
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2020-01-31: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1580484253.A.37A.html "stackoverflow菁英卻痛恨中國" by "Eric0605 (我還有點餓)" on the Gossiping board. One of the comments then links to http://************.com
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2017-06-19 https://pttweb.tw/s/2K9zV "Ciro Santilli 709大抓捕 **事件 **" on the Gossiping board
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2016-10-03 https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Soft_Job/M.1478104872.A.916.html "Github也出現網軍了嗎?" (Is there an emerging wumao army on GitHub?) by gocreating on the Soft_Job board
Archaic, fucking impossible to learn how to use. Ciro Santilli hasn’t managed yet, so if you want a reply from him, open an issue on this repo instead. Some tips:
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on the web UI rendering replies can be either likes (推 as in 推荐), dislikes (噓, hush!) or neutral (right arrow)
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per-page threads are basically flat. You can however reply to another post with a "Re:" post. One application of this seems to be to post images which might only be allowed on the thread starters, e.g.: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/joke/M.1602324724.A.CA0.html is a "Re:" to https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/joke/M.1602211516.A.3FB.html It is not clear if Re: and original posts are interlinked in any way.
TODO: can anyone comment, without having a Taiwanese university address? This suggests no: https://www.reddit.com/r/taiwan/comments/1etbvb/anyone_on_pttcc_advice_suggestions/ Also asked at:
A source informed Ciro that now only NTU alumni can have an account.
Maybe the email requirement is the only way to prevent wumaos from flooding the website.
Normal people see it on a web viewer hosted on: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/index.html
However it is fucking impossible to web archive that web interface because there is a cookie I’m 18-years-old confirmation before the first connection.
This shows how to connect for the first time: https://www.ptt.cc/index.firstbbs.html
One attempt is:
luit -encoding big5 telnet ptt.cc
But the main page says:
"本站目前暫停開放新帳號註冊。" "This site is currently suspended for new account registration."
And you try new it says: "目前無法註冊帳號![按任意鍵繼續]" "Account cannot be registered at this time."
OK, ptt2 went further:
luit -encoding big5 telnet ptt2.cc
Then there is a registration process that seem to require you to prove that you work at Taiwanese university, but not sure it is mandatory to post.
But I couldn’t find Gossiping there either, which is the only board that matters, so not sure it is on this server.
[hong-kong] Reddit clone. Requires a Hong Kong IP or university address to login, a bit in the spirit of PTT Bulletin Board System (Taiwanese message board, 批踢踢實業坊) to avoid [wumao] invasion.
If it goes down, they created: https://www.reddit.com/r/LIHKG/ on Reddit.
TODO meaning of "LI"?
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2020-08-24 https://lihkg.com/thread/2171918/page/1 "工信部培植代碼平台取代GitHub" (The Ministry of Industry and Information Technology cultivates a code platform to replace GitHub) linking to: https://hk.appledaily.com/china/20200823/AOAQRQURIRCT3D2DNPLMXUVC2M/ Then 菱川六花 linked to this page on a comment. Too young, too naive, they did not know about the more specific and interesting https://gitee.com/************/china-************ from Gitee censorship (Gitee 审查)
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2019-10-31 https://lihkg.com/thread/1685513/page/3 "Notepad++新版代號「自由維吾爾」，GitHub網頁被灌爆，網站遭DDoS" about Notepad++ "Free Uyghur" version. On page 3 comment links to Ciro’s Stack Overflow account. Big thread with 500+ likes.
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2019-10-05 https://lihkg.com/thread/1625310/page/1 "聽講GitHub好好用" (Attending lectures on GitHub is very useful.). But likely some slang for politics, because on first comment "可以好好上去發表下愛國論". Then someone links to [nine-nine-six-icu], then to the GitHub mirror of this page, and then to Gitee.
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2018-07-31 https://lihkg.com/thread/762440/page/1 https://archive.is/7REOi. Title: "依條友都幾屈機, 係Stack overflow撚共匪". I’m unable to understand the first sentence, but the end is something along "to play tricks on the commies". First comment (likely by OP): "佢個個人home page好多5毛留言, 唔知會唔會搞到block堆stackoverflow". The entire thread is about Ciro’s Stack Overflow.
Related subjects:
A curated list on GitHub: https://github.com/hmsjy2017/Google-Mirrors
Do the names mean anything? Are they owned? The fact that they are Alexa top 1000 domains is just so funny, Google redirects for China.
Alexa top 1000 domains and blocked in China as per [greatfire]:
Other mirrors:
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https://seeres.com 闭站维护中
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https://google.independentlyreview.com/ see also the GitHub one by the same creator, described at Mirrors of this page (此网页的镜像)
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https://g20.i-research.edu.eu.org/ http://eu.org gives away free subdomains it seems.
No HTTPS?!?! Brains?!?!
Lists of mirrors:
https://library.ac.cn/ large list of university Google/Google Scholar/Wikipedia/Twitter mirrors maintained by Chinese university students under an unified system. Each one asks for verification that you are from that university via some little known fact about the university:
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https://g.luciaz.me from Zhejiang University "需要验证您是否来自浙江大学". Question: "请问浙江大学内网最大的论坛中, 每天发帖量最大的版块是哪个?" (Ask your colleagues on the internal forum, what is the most popular section of the forum every day?)
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https://g0.njuu.cf/ from Nanjing University "需要验证您是否来自南京大学" Question: "西大楼是哪个系的?" (Which department is in the big Western building?)
Website now points to: https://github.com/librarycloud/iwiki
Related URLs:
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several under [backlinks]
https://www.reddit.com/r/China is what Ciro uses daily for news, see also: Reddit
In other sections:
Not in other sections:
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https://anticommunism.miraheze.org/ "**维基" (Anti Communism Wiki) Chinese language anti-CCP Media Wiki instance hosted on https://miraheze.org, a free Media Wiki host.
As of 2020, Reddit is Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的)'s best bet at finding good anti CCP news, notably r/China Reddit sub. Unfortunately, it does require daily monitoring due to: https://ourbigbook.com/************/view-top-posts-of-previous-months-or-years-in-reddit, you can’t just check the best events of the previous months easily.
Subs with lots of anti-commie info:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/China is arguably the best as of 2020, see: r/China Reddit sub
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https://www.reddit.com/r/fucktheccp/ small as of 2020 but promising
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https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong had 3x more users than r/china as of 2020 after [hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019].
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https://www.reddit.com/r/FragrantHarbour/ another Honk Kong one, TODO vs r/HongKong.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/CCP_virus/ for Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查)
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https://www.reddit.com/r/tibet/ 3k subs 2020
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ChinaMemes 2.5k subs 2021-03
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https://www.reddit.com/r/saraba2nd/ (第二新S1市) modded by chinatimeline (**时间线) TODO title meaning
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China Circle Jerk subs (CCJ). TODO: these appear to be politically incorrect subs, but they do seem to allow anti-commit info. As of 2020, they were either banned or private:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ADVChina/ related to [serpentza-laowhy86], but broader, e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/ADVChina/comments/uepsnh/found_this_on_github_a_repository_that_seems_to/ about this project.
Related:
Non-China specific but relevant:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughCommieSpam as of 2020 a large part of it was China specific:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughCommieSpam/comments/mefx7x/a_proud_commie_tradition/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughCommieSpam/comments/nml4jg/john_cena_sold_out/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughCommieSpam/comments/o950d4/okay_but_next_time_itll_work_for_real/ photo of Xi Jinping with text: "Yo guys, I promise, worker democracy is coming right after a few hundred years of totalitarian state capitalism with Chinese characteristics."
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https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughCommieSpam/comments/nrkkqh/today_is_the_32nd_anniversary_of_the_tiananmen/ "Today is the 32nd anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre. This is a photo of its aftermath. Death to the CCP." Night photo of dead people and bicycles on [tiananmen]
TODO review:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/taiwan/. Does not appear to be very China focused.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/real_China_irl (流浪防区)
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https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/mnbpum/if_you_want_to_experience_the_censorship_and/ claims pro-CCP, but e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/China_irl/comments/mn68dy/各位键委如何看待gfw/ has [gfw] talks. It actually appears to be quite a diverse sub.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/real_China_irl/comments/17lmayu/轉發_防不胜防防不胜防啊经过对光猫固件分析发现更多插件/
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2024-03-25 https://www.reddit.com/r/China_irl/comments/1bn47e5/github_上自带大翻译的那个竟然是100的洋人那么问题来了/ by user steambap, possibly the same as: https://github.com/steambap. Complaining about Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (外国人不应该干预**政治)
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2022-12-06 comment on https://www.reddit.com/r/real_China_irl/comments/ze5wcd/github也在墙外了/ has GitHub been blocked by the [gfw]
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DoubanGoosegroup Appears anti-CCP with Backlink: https://www.reddit.com/r/DoubanGoosegroup/comments/ud50yd/**主要科技与互联网公司市值变化与apple对比/ Main post was also laughing at the Chinese economy First charst are 流浪 like https://www.reddit.com/r/China_irl/浪 On 2023-01-31, Ciro Santilli’s Reddit account was banned from that sub for no apparent reason
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https://www.reddit.com/r/hanbenwei/ e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/hanbenwei/comments/1akit4d/七五**暴动干了什么/
That catches all the important news.
A large part of the posts has controversial material.
Has some noise of course as well, but less than other media I find.
Highly worth your feed.
Reddit was banned in China in August 2018: https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/965k4c/reddit_banned_in_china/
[tencent] will invest 150 million on Reddit in 2019: https://gizmodo.com/reddit-banned-in-china-is-reportedly-set-to-land-150-1832375439 See also: [biased-media].
15k users 2020-03.
Banned 2022-03 for some likely very lightweight "doxxing" that had already been published everywhere. https://www.rfa.org/cantonese/news/reddit-03042022114155.html from [rfa] gives more context, translation;
The reason why chonglangTV was blocked was "disclosure of personal information". It is suspected that they have something to do with a "patriotic pink" named "Xu Hao" (徐好) who claimed to be an employee of a bank in Shanghai. "Xu Hao" claimed that he used his power to intercept multiple donations to Ukraine, and was later "opened the box" by netizens. (i.e. starting with personal information).
Other threads:
https://pincong.rocks/article/39117 proposes a regroup at https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeofChonglang/.
Overview of their culture: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ChonglangTV
Chinese language, pretty good content, anti-CCP samples:
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2021-10-13 https://www.reddit.com/r/chonglangTV/comments/q7am6x/github这个仓库issue_岁静码农粉蛆暴跳如雷全被翻译成英文_效果好到爆 (https://github.com/************/china-************/issues is fun)
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2020-03-27 https://www.reddit.com/r/chonglangTV/comments/mdlowp/ciro这人行能处/ (Ciro is nice)
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2021-02 https://www.reddit.com/r/chonglangTV/comments/lf5dy5/致那些坚持认为不会翻墙者不配看墙外东西的粉红/
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2021-01 https://www.reddit.com/r/chonglangTV/comments/kpulab/最双标的人/ (the people with the most double standards, 双标 is a short form or 双重标准), comments how China complained when the US imposed sanctions on [huawei], while China itself had already banned everything from the West
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2021 https://www.reddit.com/r/chonglangTV/comments/lyxlf9/不_言_而_喻一_目_了_然/ has a cartoon about [jack-mas-disappearance-2021]. Ciro’s actually going to steal that.
Any comment critical of China and mods immediately ban you, e.g. on 2020-08-21 at https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/ie0mak/china_is_building_a_github_alternative_called/ which is related to Gitee, Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) commented:
Let’s see how long it takes them to block my repo/account: https://gitee.com/************/china-************ | http://web.archive.org/web/20200821202450/https://gitee.com/************/china-************
The ban message is:
You have been permanently banned from participating in r/Sino. You can still view and subscribe to r/Sino, but you won’t be able to post or comment.
Try r/westerner TRASH doesn’t get by mods here. Tiananmen Square is vindicated by China’s development. Anti terror system in Xinjiang is working. End result for HK is the same since 1997, regardless of rioters. Scientology-esque FLG/Shen Yun cult show has failed for decades, if you believe their claims, it’s all of them losing badly.
Dec 31 China informed WHO about mysterious pneumonia. Jan 11 Chinese reveal virus genome Jan 23 Wuhan quarantine - businessinsider/sciencemag
You had the genome and saw the lengths China went to. Don’t blame others for failing months later.
US accused of 'modern piracy' after diversion of masks meant for Europe - theguardian
Democracies Are Better at Fighting Outbreaks - theatlantic XD
The US leads in coronavirus cases, but not pandemic response - sciencemag XD
Beliefs of founder cultleader of Falun Gong from own lectures on official falundafa site https://redd.it/42wlvf
Featuring Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的): https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/qcyocd/the_lengths_these_fucking_people_go_to/ "The lengths these fucking people go to." They are unable to read it seems: Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击).
Ciro commented linking to https://************.com/why-ciro-santilli-refers-to-himself-in-the-third-person and was autobanned immediately with message:
You have been banned due to participation in anti-communist subreddits. This action was performed automatically by a bot.
Hong Kong is China. Mao already freed Tibet in 1950. The Xinjiang counter-terrorism program is both effective and humane, unlike the US War on Terror which is neither. Long Live President Xi Jinping and the Communist Party of China!
It appears that the word ************.com is itself banned?
Sub description:
This is a Dengist subreddit in favor of Bashar al-Assad with no information leading to the arrest of Hillary Rodham Clinton, our fellow liberal and queen. This subreddit is not ironic, we are Marxist-Leninists.
The Reddit was quarantined in March 2022: https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitLiberalsSay/comments/tkurmc/breaking_news_rgenzedong_has_been_quarantined/ Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) is against this quarantine BTW. We shouldn’t ban any discussion forum, at least not until we have an anonymous way to verify the nationality of people: Unjust social media censorship in the West (西方不公正的社交媒体审查).
Completely pro-Putin, e.g. removed https://www.reddit.com/r/russia/comments/kd21ck/cnnbellingcat_investigation_identifies_russian/ about [the-poisoning-of-alexei-navalny-2020]
Particularly interesting ones:
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After Trump was unfairly banned from Twitter, his social media team created an amazing "Chongald Xrump" account pretending ridiculously to be a CCP PR person, it had really good posts.
But that amazing account was banned: https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-sneaks-back-on-twitter-by-disguising-self-as-pr-rep-for-chinese-communist-party Twitter is trying really hard to beat the CCP at its own game.
News:
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2021-07 https://apnews.com/article/china-business-technology-3741dcfb1c2eb11f17280c9ed8c06fc4 "Twitter restricts account of expert who mocked China leader" Anne-Marie Brady https://twitter.com/Anne_MarieBrady
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2021-04-08: publicly supported the [milk-tea-alliance]
Unfair censorship:
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2021-08-12 https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/11/twitter-locks-account-of-india-congress-largest-opposition-party/ Twitter locks account of India’s largest opposition party (Indian National Congress)
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2021-08-10 https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/10/marjorie-taylor-greene-mjt-twitter-suspension/ Twitter suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene temporarily for spreading vaccine misinformation
Emerged mosty translating propaganda about the [russo-ukrainian-war].
This type of thing is something Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) did a few times previously, e.g.
but he just doesn’t have the knowledge/time/patience to do it as well as that Twitter channel.
The Great Translation Movement (大翻译运动官方推号) is a good movement because many people in the West do not fully appreciate the level of ************ in China.
E.g. a well educated friend of Ciro once asked him circa 2020 which one he thought was worse: the terrible president of Brazil at the time, Jair Bolsonaro, or [xi-jinping]!
It is of course impossible to compare individuals in completely different situations, but how can you not point the finger to the major dictator! It is like asking who do you hate the most, Hitler or Donald Trump! That question was an eye opener.
The username is a reference to a frog that jumps over the [gfw].
Or perhaps it is also a reference to Taiwan frog (台蛙蛙).
Amazing selection of Chinese-only anti-CCP content.
Many western Pro CCP accounts: [ccp-apologists].
In other sections:
Others:
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjvvgGX6oby5mZ3gbDe8Ug China Insights anti-CCP channel. TODO affiliation: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ask_Politics/comments/pi8kjo/is_the_youtube_channel_china_insights_trustworthy/ suggests Falun Gong but no proof.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjGMgaDmTJtyWl4QCbHJlig **社·小池塘Winnie the Pool. Basically a bunch of anti-Xi Jinping YouTube poop in Chinese.
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr9pkYrfp6QumE11R9A9gqQ **社·小反旗 sister channel
Many of their videos use their [xi-jinping-speech-synthesizer] system called XJP音源(***音源). It is mentioned in the description of videos e.g.
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https://twitter.com/ruters0615/status/1227823202522427392 gives some voice synthesis methods used
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/06/taiwan-china-eyectv-tough-bobas-satire-laughter/ Taiwanese. political satire trope, mostly news satire.
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https://independence-of-mind.tumblr.com/ 独立思考社群 (Independent thought society)
Some US funded site for Chinese students abroad, apparently not censored e.g. https://bbs.wenxuecity.com/currentevent/3205740.html Blocked according to [greatfire]: https://en.greatfire.org/search/all/wenxuecity.com, so good sign.
[backlinks], so far only because they use github images, not actual mentions:
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2023-11-10 https://bbs.wenxuecity.com/currentevent/3205740.html, a reply to https://bbs.wenxuecity.com/currentevent/3205590.html 习总换赛场不跟美国政客浪费时间了，直奔主题广会美国商界大佬，三番晚餐会每位$2000 (President Xi changed the venue and stopped wasting time with American politicians. He went straight to the theme meeting with American business leaders and had three dinner parties worth $2,000 each.) linking to: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/08/business/economy/xi-jinping-american-business-leaders-dinner.html
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2023-11-01 https://bbs.wenxuecity.com/currentevent/3200519.html, a reply to https://bbs.wenxuecity.com/currentevent/3200478.html 中國前60大房企股價慘跌…房產大咖被抓留巨債！謝金河：大債時代來臨 (The share prices of China’s top 60 real estate companies plummeted… Real estate tycoons were caught with huge debts! Xie Jinhe: The era of big debt is coming) linking to this Facebook post: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid0ibbRc5qJg1fbePcg9998u91q2p8TgEUttHJSSXo2GNU5eU2epA33AQfL1Q6Rfadzl&id=100002304327218&ref=embed_post by 謝金河
If a large number of people in a given region want to leave an country strongly or have greater autonomy, Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) believes that they should be allowed to do so.
Rationale:
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if they don’t feel they are getting a good deal out of your country, it is unfair to keep them in
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keeping them in the country forcibly implies large scale violation of human rights: mass incarceration and removing freedom of speech.
Which in turn implies terrorist backslash.
All of which are against Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的)'s principles.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eouBCMPtNDQ?t=1170 "It happened in … Luxor" by Al Jazeera English (2011) is a short documentary about the Luxor massacre in Egypt (1997). At this timestamp, survivor Felix Mueller whose girlfriend was killed in the attack comments that it is when people don’t have an official way to express their needs due to censorship that they are more likely to turn to terrorism to express themselves.
What makes Ciro the maddest is the censorship. If you are going to put people in jail, write a clear law about it, and let international reporters come to see the situation.
But why do you do something and then hide it? Maybe because you are not doing the right thing?
Ciro also believes that although terrorists must be fought with all our strength, they must also be given some degree respect (interspersed simultaneously with humour). He sometimes prefers the term "warriors" or "fighters", because their actions are largely indistinguishable from many ideological or purely greed based actions that larger nation states have done many times over and over. It is just a war, plain and simple.
The reason why they kill mostly civilians is that they don’t have the means to kill the presidents those civilians elected. An amazing scene from The Battle of Algiers (1966) comes to mind. After the head of the Algerian independence movement and terrorist, Larbi Ben M’hidi is arrested, the French military let him be interviewed by the press on 4 March 1967 https://youtu.be/uHWZkiBuKGY?t=5312 (TODO real words? Cannot find source):
Translation:
Journalist: Don’t you think that it is cowardly to use the handbags and pushchairs of your women to transport your bombs? Those bombs that make so many innocent victims? [Earlier in the movie, we saw women carriying bombs into the French areas of Algiers through those means]
Larbi Ben M’hidi: And you, don’t you think that it is much more cowardly to drop on defenseless villages your napalm bombs that kill thousands times more? Obviously, with airplanes, it would have been much more convenient for us. Give us your bombers, and we will give you the pushchairs.
Original text:
Journalist: Ne trouvez-vous pas plutôt lâche d’utiliser les sacs et les couffins de vos femmes pour transporter vos bombes? Ces bombes qui font tant de victimes innocentes?
Larbi Ben M’hidi: Et vous, ne vous semble t-il beacoup plus lache de larguer sur des vilages sans défence vos bombes au napalme qui tuent mille fois plus d’innocents? Évidement, avec des avions, ca aurait été beaucoup plus comode pour nous. Donnez vous vos bombardiers monsieur, et on vous donnera les couffins.
See also: Western democracies have invaded other countries and crushed separatism (西方**国家**别国粉碎分裂主义).
If you are interested in Taiwan, one important programmer forum is: PTT Bulletin Board System (Taiwanese message board, 批踢踢實業坊).
Some interesting links:
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=6aZkM_ZLvjE?t=50 (zh) "【這就是科學｜柯文哲】EP3／從癌症治療看政治！除惡務盡→除惡「勿」盡？「與敵共存」才是生存之道！", 柯文哲, 2019-06-26. Ko Wen-je, the mayor of Taipei 台北 and a professor in medicine, applies the concept of isolation and mutation in evolution to Taiwan and China
News:
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2021-03-10 https://web.archive.org/web/20210310210519/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-10/asia-shoppers-snap-up-taiwan-pineapples-in-defiance-of-china-ban "Shoppers in Asia Snap Up Taiwan’s Pineapples in Defiance of China’s Ban". In 2018 there were Fake news (假新闻) about that apparently: https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3423317 but now it became true.
Discussion:
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https://www.zhihu.com/question/59337963 为什么西方国家不针对**？ Why don’t Western countries target Taiwan [in their criticisms]? First answer: because of something called ************.
Taiwan is not a case of Separatism (分离主义, Taiwan **, Xinjiang **, Hong Kong 香港).
Taiwan is a completely separate country split due to civil war, long ago.
Almost every country, and all reasonably powerful countries, have diplomatic relations with Taiwan. They just don’t call them diplomatic relations to not piss off China so they can keep doing business.
The fact that most countries in the world does officially recognize Taiwan as a country is a joke, considering that the only thing keeping it afloat is the West’s military threat.
The West must not let China advance and take more territories. The more they take, the more they will want.
The West must protect China’s neighboring countries with military support and assurance.
The West must recognize Taiwan for what it is: a separate country, under threat of invasion, and in need of support.
If China’s claim to Taiwan is valid, then Taiwan also has an equally valid claim on China.
If China’s claim to Taiwan is valid, then so will its claim to any other country.
China, if you want to claim that Taiwan is a part of you, just grow some balls and invade them already. Or just stop this stupid joke.
Interesting quote from https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/07/taiwans-status-geopolitical-absurdity/593371/
Taiwan’s Status Is a Geopolitical Absurdity
And https://www.economist.com/asia/2017/02/16/americas-affirmation-of-the-one-china-policy-pleased-taiwan-too calls the One China policy a:
polite fiction
https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/62447/how-can-a-citizen-of-mainland-china-visit-taiwan/62466#comment178495_62466 hi, I want a "not VISA" to Taiwan. Thanks.
A well educated Mainlander who lived outside of China once told Ciro:
Taiwan should not be considered a country by China, because then it would not join back to China when China becomes a democracy, and would be used by the USA to do evil things as they did in the Middle East
Ciro was shocked. He considered that person highly intelligent and not fully brainwashed! Reply:
China claiming that Taiwan is a part of them only drives Taiwan closer to the West! Who wants to be part of a ************ unless you have been brainwashed by one?
They truly believe in The CCP exaggerates the threat of the West to keep in power (**夸大了西方要继续掌权的威胁).
The US first caved in in 1972 with the Shanghai Communiqué.
News:
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20201-01-10 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-09/u-s-to-end-restrictions-for-diplomats-regarding-taiwan-pompeo "U.S. Eases Restrictions on Contact With Taiwan in Jab at China"
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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/taiwan-finalises-62-billion-purchase-of-f-16-jets-lockheed-13023336 "Taiwan finalises purchase of F-16 jets from Lockheed Martin". 90 jets, 8 billion USD.
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2020-05-26 https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3940533 "Brazilian netizens fight back against CCP threats over Taiwan support"
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It should also be mentioned that this campaign could be being used/created by pro-Bolsanaro politicians as a way to detract focus from the COVID-19 epidemic that is reaching its deadliest phase in Brazil, e.g.: https://twitter.com/PauloMartins10/status/1265038976617984002
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2020 Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查) and Taiwan:
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Taiwan was at a disadvantage during since it was not part of the World Health Organization and therefore could not get information as fast and influence decisions
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fASh2_RzMuE WHO officer Bruce Alyward pretends not to hear question from Radio Television Hong Kong (RTHK) about the possibility of Taiwan’s membership in the WHO during a one-to-one Skype interview, reference.
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2020-03-27 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-taiwan-usa/u-s-increases-support-for-taiwan-in-recognition-battle-with-china-idUSKBN21E0B7 "U.S. President Donald Trump has signed into law an act that requires increased U.S. support for Taiwan internationally". But he didn’t recognize it as a country. Semi bullshit.
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Taiwan Travel Act
Related:
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) agrees with https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/01/opinion/nancy-pelosi-taiwan-china.html that this was a stupid move.
The USA has to support Taiwan as silently.
And we especially don’t need to do it loudly in the middle of the ongoing [russo-ukrainian-war], which already requires incredible Western support to Ukraine.
Even Biden, which is a democrat just like Pelosi advised against it in public: https://rollcall.com/2022/08/02/pelosi-defies-biden-pokes-china-with-taiwan-visit/ though he coudn’t be more explicit due to separation of powers concerns apparently.
2015 meme started by H1Z1 streamer AngryPug, in which he repeatedly taunts the Chinese streamer Em0 by pretending to be Taiwanese.
See also: Photobombing-like attacks.
Hololive is a VTuber management company from Japan, a subsidiary of a company called Cover Corporation.
When a VTubber either quits of is fired, they euphemistically often call it "graduation". But it is more like "death". The managemente company likely retains all rights to the character.
Ciro Santilli (***, anti-CCP fanatic, 反**狂热, stupid cunt, 傻*, CIA agent, CIA特工, ***的) didn’t know WTF a VTuber was before coming across this event, he’s too old for that. But basically is mostly some Japanese chicks that have live generated anime like virtual avatars that motion track them. They are meant to feel like real-world anime characters, as they can reply to comments to be more interactive.
Hololive is the main VTuber agency. These agencies are similar in nature to modern singer agencies, and even more so to the agencies that build up Korean K-pop idols. They are all trying to turn your youth into idiotic superfluous robots, the opposite of science.
And this is likely exremelly popular amongst the sex-deprived young Chinese people, much like Japanese AV.
Fucking Japanese corporates, curbing freedom of speech in China. Those dudes are going to deserve it when Japan gets invaded by Xi’s fourth Reich…
The key event was 2020-09-28 https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4018580 "Japanese VTubers banned for mentioning Taiwan during livestream":
During their most recent livestreams, Hololive Japanese VTubers Kiryu Coco and Akai Haato announced the countries where they have received the most followers based on YouTube analytics. One of the countries that they highlighted was Taiwan because it accounted for seven percent of viewers and they displayed the flag of Taiwan to represent the nation.
therefore joining the long list of Western companies that comply with Chinese censorship requests (遵守**审查要求的西方公司).
Interestingly, this led to a large number of I want to take my chances and make a shitpost in ************/china-************ (屎帖子)/spam on https://github.com/************/china-************/issues, culminating notably at #191, and many of them seemed to involve:
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Pixiv, which is "a Japanese online community for artists" which likely has lots of VTubers,
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Japanese language, although one of the very extremely erudite and trustworthy comments at: https://boards.4channel.org/vt/thread/1403290/really-makes-you suggests that the Japanese at there is completely broken, and it is likely just a Chinese person using Google Translate
It is however hard to understand the rationale of such posts, why here on China ************?
As of 2020, there are two relevant parties:
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"Kuomintang", which have become a bunch of pussies, and prefer to keep the ambiguous One China policy (一个**) status quo, to not get bombed, and do some commerce with China. Those people make Chiang Kai-shek (蔣介石, 蔣中正) turn in his grave of shame.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Progressive_Party, which wants independence, and was winning as of 2020
Mainland slang for "Taiwanese".
Politically ambiguous euphemism designed to not make it clear if you think Taiwan is part of China or not.
Events:
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2021 https://uhrp.org/report/under-the-gavel-evidence-of-uyghur-owned-property-seized-and-sold-online/ Under the Gavel: Evidence of Uyghur-owned Property Seized and Sold Online
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2014 something very serious happened in Xinjiang.
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2010 Xinjiang 10 month Internet blackout
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2009 Ürümqi riots
Terrorist attacks done by Xinjiang separatists:
Notable terrorist attacks:
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2014 Kunming attack
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photo of 8 bodies lined up after the attack: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/world/asia/chinese-officials-seek-to-shift-attention-from-rampage.html
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Interestingly, https://chinadigitaltimes.net/2014/03/sensitive-words-attack-kunming/ points out that http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/845642.shtml#.UxYZgeddVRG by [china-digital-times] said that:
The public must realize that a handful of extremists are far from qualified to represent tens of millions of local residents in Xinjiang. It is not only an irrational and biased mindset to put the blame on the entire Uyghur community or the Muslim world, but the idea will also abet and aid those separatists and terrorists who are desperate to take advantage of ethnic and religious conflicts.
and yet as of the [xinjiang-re-education-camps], all Xinjiang Muslims were fucked. [rule-of-law] comes to mind.
People:
