Are aspherics supported now?

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Are aspherics supported now?

dibyendumajumdar opened this issue 4 years ago · comments

Dibyendu Majumdar commented 4 years ago

If so is there an example I can look at?

Xing Fan · Answer 1 · Sun Feb 21 2021 00:02:42 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

http://opticspy.org

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Dibyendu Majumdar · Answer 2 · Sun Feb 21 2021 00:14:10 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Hi, I saw there that asphere fitting is still pending? But I saw some code for aspherics hence my question. Also wasn't clear if there is an example with aspherics

Xing Fan · Answer 3 · Sun Feb 21 2021 00:21:23 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

There is asphere surface but no asphere furface fitting

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Dibyendu Majumdar · Answer 4 · Sun Feb 21 2021 06:11:27 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I don't quite follow. I would like to setup a lens configuration for example: https://nbviewer.jupyter.org/github/cameragossip/cameragossip.github.io/blob/master/lensdesigns/Nikkor-Z-Noct-58mm-f0.95.ipynb

Can I do this in opticspy? I could not find any example that uses the asphere surface.

Xing Fan · Answer 5 · Wed Feb 24 2021 15:44:27 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Sorry for the late reply. Correction, it can't do asphere now. But it can do all-spherical surface. The example you show is a all spherical surface lens. Opticspy can do it. here's an example: https://sterncat.github.io/files/Double_Gauss.html Thanks! Dibyendu Majumdar <notifications@github.com> 于2021年2月20日周六下午2:11写道：

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I don't quite follow. I would like to setup a lens configuration for example: https://nbviewer.jupyter.org/github/cameragossip/cameragossip.github.io/blob/master/lensdesigns/Nikkor-Z-Noct-58mm-f0.95.ipynb Can I do this in opticspy? I could not find any example that uses the asphere surface. — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#44 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAUIRBNFCUMSH5JV6KIG6FDTAAXSFANCNFSM4X544EFQ> .

Dibyendu Majumdar · Answer 6 · Wed Feb 24 2021 22:58:11 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Hi, thanks for the response. That example does use aspheric surfaces. In rayopt they are specified as follows:

## Aspheric data
s[1].conic      = 0.0
s[1].aspherics  = [0, -3.82177E-07, -6.06486E-11, -3.80172E-15, -1.32266E-18]
s[20].conic     = 0.0
s[20].aspherics = [0, -1.15028E-06, -4.51771E-10, 2.72670E-13, -7.66812E-17]
s[28].conic     = 0.0
s[28].aspherics = [0, 3.18645E-06, -1.14718E-08, 7.74567E-11, -2.24225E-13, 3.34790E-16, -1.70470E-19]

These days almost all photo lenses have aspheric surfaces, only older generation lenses are pure spherical surfaces.

Xing Fan · Answer 7 · Thu Feb 25 2021 04:08:38 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I see, then you may want to try Rayopt. Dibyendu Majumdar <notifications@github.com> 于2021年2月24日周三上午6:58写道：

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Hi, thanks for the response. That example does use aspheric surfaces. In rayopt they are specified as follows: ## Aspheric data s[1].conic = 0.0 s[1].aspherics = [0, -3.82177E-07, -6.06486E-11, -3.80172E-15, -1.32266E-18] s[20].conic = 0.0 s[20].aspherics = [0, -1.15028E-06, -4.51771E-10, 2.72670E-13, -7.66812E-17] s[28].conic = 0.0 s[28].aspherics = [0, 3.18645E-06, -1.14718E-08, 7.74567E-11, -2.24225E-13, 3.34790E-16, -1.70470E-19] These days almost all photo lenses have aspheric surfaces, only older generation lenses are pure spherical surfaces. — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#44 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAUIRBNHN5LCQLWE7GCMGRDTAUHZJANCNFSM4X544EFQ> .

Dibyendu Majumdar · Answer 8 · Thu Feb 25 2021 06:26:04 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I see, then you may want to try Rayopt.

I already use Rayopt but I was looking for alternatives. I have a hobby of converting patent data into something more helpful - but I am not an optical expert and some of the data produced by rayopt doesn't match other tools.

Xing Fan · Answer 9 · Thu Feb 25 2021 07:02:37 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

What tools you use? I know some tools or program packages may help. Dibyendu Majumdar <notifications@github.com> 于2021年2月24日周三下午2:26写道：

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Dibyendu Majumdar · Answer 10 · Thu Feb 25 2021 07:26:53 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

What tools you use? I know some tools or program packages may help.

Apart from rayopt, I use GNU Optical, and also another package called KDP.
Also there is a resource maintained by Bill Claff at https://www.photonstophotos.net/GeneralTopics/Lenses/OpticalBench/OpticalBenchHub.htm.

But the difficulty is I cannot get results that agree between these ... and I am interested in working out something that can be used to measure objectively the difference between various lens designs.

Dibyendu Majumdar · Answer 11 · Thu Feb 25 2021 07:37:19 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Also planning to try https://github.com/mjhoptics/ray-optics

Xing Fan · Answer 12 · Thu Feb 25 2021 07:56:45 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

https://www.photonstophotos.net/GeneralTopics/Lenses/OpticalBench/OpticalBench.htm is so cool! I agree! It is really hard to get results agree with these as well as lens data transfer from one to another! Programming language also different from one to another. When I worked on Opticspy ray tracing package, I am referring to Codev results. And you can see for rayopt, the code owner more rely on Zemax. So if I were you, I will rely on CodeV or Zemax for comparison since there are the commercialize softwares. Another thing for patent data of optics you may know is that they always have some intended gap between there real system and the patent data. Dibyendu Majumdar <notifications@github.com> 于2021年2月24日周三下午3:27写道：

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What tools you use? I know some tools or program packages may help. Apart from rayopt, I use GNU Optical, and also another package called KDP. Also there is a resource maintained by Bill Claff at https://www.photonstophotos.net/GeneralTopics/Lenses/OpticalBench/OpticalBenchHub.htm . But the difficulty is I cannot get results that agree between these ... and I am interested in working out something that can be used to measure objectively the difference between various lens designs. — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#44 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAUIRBIGXJ3COAZWRLMABQ3TAWDMXANCNFSM4X544EFQ> .

Dibyendu Majumdar · Answer 13 · Thu Feb 25 2021 18:37:28 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

CodeV and Zemax are so expensive I could not justify getting license - I can buy lenses instead with that money!