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Announcement: Fork Licensing

DanPristupov opened this issue · comments

commented

Hi guys!

Some people might already noticed that in the recent versions of Fork there's a way to buy a license (About -> Fork Activation).

So, after 4 years of being free Fork is going to be paid. The price will be quite affordable and it will be a one-time purchase.

$49.99

  • It is a one-time purchase (not a subscription☝️)
  • The license includes both personal and commercial use
  • 1 user / up to 3 machines (should be enough, I think)

The rest will remain the same. We will continue releasing new versions once or twice a month. There's still a lot of things in our todo list.

P.S. A corresponding topic in the Mac issue tracker: fork-dev/Tracker#562

As I understand there is no visible differences between free and paid version for now and this is just a way to support your family as a Fork developers?

1 user / up to 3 machines (should be enough, I think)

What if I change 3 machines throughout lifetime (or reinstall Windows), can license be extended or something?

Anyway thanks for your work and great Git client! Just bought a license.
Keep it up!
Earlier I have used SourceTree but now I can forget it like a nightmare.

commented

As I understand there is no visible differences between free and paid version for now and this is just a way to support your family as a Fork developers?

Yes, exactly.

What if I change 3 machines throughout lifetime (or reinstall Windows), can license be extended or something?

You can deactivate the license. Or you can always contact me and I'll help.

You can deactivate the license. Or you can always contact me and I'll help.

Thanks. This means I can use Fork on 3 machines at the same time and be able to deactivate license and activate it on another PC?

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@decadence yes, that's right.

Will you keep a free version? Will the already released free version continue to work?

commented

Most likely we will not have a free version because we don't a time to support it. I'm not sure if the existing versions will work.

@DanPristupov How long will the earlybird coupon code be available?

commented

It's called 'early'... not so long then :). A week or a few may be.

When clicking on the buy button the price goes from 49.99 to 60.49, is this intended?

commented

@nstubbe our price is $49.99, but the VAT of your country may apply (depends on the country). For example in Germany VAT is 19%. Here in Czech we have 21%. For US there's no tax.

@DanPristupov
Thanks for clarifying, we're not used to seeing 'VAT-less' prices where I'm from, and just wanted to make sure :)

@DanPristupov HI Dan, I purchased Fork on fork.dev yesterday but I don't know where to find my activition key. Is it going to be an email sent to me? I have on clue.

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@skyline75489 I see that you made a typo in your email. I will forward the key to the correct one manually.

@DanPristupov Thanks! I got the Paypal receipt and I thought it was good. Thanks for sharing fork with us 😄

commented

@DanPristupov Thanks your amazing work here!
Hope that my next contribution will be a PR 😇

@DanPristupov Thank you for a great and smooth git client and awesome for us earlybirds.

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Activated. It was a no-brainer! Thank you for all your work over the last years!

And the 3 licenses is just perfect for me at the moment.

  • macOS: using private at home
  • Windows: using on my work-notebook
  • Windows Server: the project where I am at at the moment (gov) only allows to develop on their dev-vms so I need/use git-fork there too.

The 3 activations are cross-platform, right?

Edit: could we pin this issue please?

I would expect the pricing (and licence) on the main fork site https://fork.dev/ top menu.

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@Coupz yes, the license is cross-platform

@xmedeko yes, sure. Now we are testing that everything works properly.

I would expect the pricing (and licence) on the main fork site https://fork.dev/ top menu.

As would I, along with changing the text below the download buttons, which still indicate this is free software.
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When is this change scheduled to occur?

commented

Absolutely a no-brainer! Keep up your great work!
fork_love

Sorry but my policy is whenever free software suddenly becomes not free, then I drop it immediately. I just uninstalled Fork. Simply put, I just don't agree with doing that to people for any reason.

commented

Sorry but my policy is whenever free software suddenly becomes not free, then I drop it immediately. I just uninstalled Fork. Simply put, I just don't agree with doing that to people for any reason.

there's a way to buy a license
It's not mandatory, juste a way to donate to this great free app

commented

@michel-foucault to be more precise:

after 4 years of being free Fork is going to be paid.

Since we are here...
@gscottanderson this change is absolutely not sudden.

Simply put, I just don't agree with doing that to people for any reason.

I'm sorry for keeping Fork free for 4 years and making it paid after we both left our jobs to work on it full time.

News from P.R. China.

I would like to give some support or even donations.

Sadly some (like 50%) of programmers in China are not well-paid. For me my salary is CNY 5,000 a month. So $50 is, a little beyond me HAHA.

Maybe you want to contact some retailers in China for a discounted price and sell it OFFICIALY on taobao (the Chinese ebay from Alibaba group).

Please check my humble opinion.

Actually, I would love to pay for Fork and $49.9 may be affordable for many developers, but it is a high price for a student, especially for a Chinese student.
$49.9 is about ¥350, which is really high.

Happy to have purchased my license today. Keep up the good work.

I'm sorry for keeping Fork free for 4 years and making it paid after we both left our jobs to work on it full time.

This kind of attitude is exactly why I wrote what I wrote. I am glad to find out things like this. For my team, SourceTree is free, bug free, and working great!

I'm not sure if the existing versions will work.

How so? Why would existing versions not continue to work, just as they do right now?

And please don't get me wrong, I fully endorse your move to paid software. If anything, that move hopefully promises that the already awesome product will get even better in the future.

commented

@joerghampel at the time (Dec 3, 2019) I didn't know what particular way we would go. Today I can confirm that all the versions will keep working.

At the moment there is a degree of uncertainty in continuing to use Fork and there isn't any official licensing words on the main Fork page. There's a registration option but not any difference being explained between free and paid versions (you do have a free and paid version at the moment, even if the feature set is the same).

Certainly the speed and ease of use of Fork means that it's the git client of choice for me, but I have this ominous "Register" button in my About toolbar, and I don't know if at some point my Fork client will just stop working unless I pay up, or what? I also don't know if I can use the free version at work?

I understand that you need income to work on Fork, and it's the best Git client available today, but right now it reminds me of how GitKraken went from free to paid. After updating one day it just straight up stopped working unless I cashed up.

I'd appreciate some wording like this: "If you want to keep using Fork, you will have to upgrade by April 2020, where Fork will be paid only from 1.50.0. Previous versions may stop working after this date".

Obviously I'm just a dude on the other side of the world making requests so I'm not fussed if none of the above happens. It'd just be nice to have some certainty around the future of Fork :)

Hello today I stopped using GitKraken because it is not free anymore, I have installed Fork because my search for the best "FREE" alternative directed me toward Fork, I hope I will not have to change again in the near future when Fork is not free anymore...

I think it will be more profitable for the team to leave the option to download the old and free version. You may even remove some features for the free version from the current version, but it will still be better than most paid ones out there. That way people can try it out and fall in love like I did.

But one-time life-time license will only collect a few bucks from already dedicated people, and they will run out soon. You need constant flow to keep supporting the family.

Also, some people may even upload old versions unofficially. So please keep the free version option!

I have used a few git clients and I don't like any of them, including the paid ones, as much as Fork. Great software, will be purchasing soon. ❤️

Single price worldwide may not work out as people already suggested. If you don't want to manage it yourself you can sell it via Valve's Steam. Steam can calculate regional prices and mange updates delivery and it works across multiple platforms. And yes, you can sell software via Steam.

@gleblebedev Be aware that companies could flag Steam as game-related, which would mean their users would be cut off from purchasing.

I guess this means that Fork is no longer free software ?

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Is it paid as in donation paid or as in "certain things won't work unless paid for" paid. I personally love Fork and think supporting independent developers. But I could see how this would turn people off. I suggest looking at LinqPad's licensing tiers as an example.

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@CraigHead

Fork will keep working with all the features.

Is it paid as in donation or paid as in "certain things won't work unless paid for" paid?

It's paid as a purchase.

https://fork.dev/license:

You can download and evaluate the Software for free, but need to purchase a license for long-term use.

I've just get notice in app today. I hope I am still having a "early-bird" price.

Congratulation to make your profit into a profit stream. I'm a "lite-"developer from Hong Kong. I would say $49.99 is a fair price comparing to Sublime Merge (And it's very cheap comparing to Tower).

However, 3-machine license is far not enough for me. 4 shops & office and 2 houses. That's 2 iMac, 1 MBA, 2 MBP, 1 iMac and 4 Windows. I will need to buy 2-4 licenses for my own use. It becomes more experience than Sublime Merge (Btw, I already bought it)

I've just get notice in app today. I hope I am still having a "early-bird" price.

Congratulation to make your profit into a profit stream. I'm a "lite-"developer from Hong Kong. I would say $49.99 is a fair price comparing to Sublime Merge (And it's very cheap comparing to Tower).

However, 3-machine license is far not enough for me. 4 shops & office and 2 houses. That's 2 iMac, 1 MBA, 2 MBP, 1 iMac and 4 Windows. I will need to buy 2-4 licenses for my own use. It becomes more experience than Sublime Merge (Btw, I already bought it)

I would say that $49.9 is not cheap in mainland China

Just wondering if you would have an educational price version? I teach at a school and I've been getting all the students to use fork since it's easy and was free - and students being students, they aren't exactly loaded (yeah, the educational support money they get is pretty much rent and gone)

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@cafiendstudio students can keep using Fork as an evaluation (it will not stop working) and buy it when/if it helps them to earn money in the future.

@DanPristupov You might want to mention this on https://fork.dev/license (or https://fork.dev/buy / wherever it fits)?

I'm without a job at the moment, otherwise I would pay for it, but 3 installations would not have been enough when I had a job. I had it installed on 5 devices when I had a job (work PC, work mac, home PC, home mac, home laptop) so reconsider those limits please :/ (not saying 5 but I can see the 2 home 2 work situations happening a lot)

@mylemans - agreed on that; have a job but kinda don't wanna buy 2 licenses so i can use on 4 machines... would very much rather pay slightly more on a higher tier to get more licenses. Also - @DanPristupov - sorry for being a nuisance - any plans for bulk discounts? say if a studio wants to purchase for all the users

commented

@DanPristupov please contact me by email: support@fork.dev

Is it paid as in donation paid or as in "certain things won't work unless paid for" paid. I personally love Fork and think supporting independent developers. But I could see how this would turn people off. I suggest looking at LinqPad's licensing tiers as an example.

It is one-time payment and keep it forever. All features are available in evaluation.

Didn't use LinqPad, but I appreciate Sublime Text's model: Evaluation forever, and pay when I'm sure it's my daily tool. :)

Good job! Thank you for the awesome software. And the discount for China.

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Just opened a ticket in the company I am working at to buy fork licenses for the guys working with git.

You can download and evaluate the Software for free, but need to purchase a license for long-term use.

I also think this license model is not very smart. You need to make people addicted to the software (like you did with me). If I would read a sentence like the one quoted above, I wouldn't even download the tool for personal use because I would rather live with sourcetree than trying something I would need to pay after some time.

So I suggest to change the sentence to:

You can download the Software for free and use it for non-commercial purpose or evaluation. For commercial use you need to purchase a license.

This would attract students, hobbyists and open source developers which may later bring the software to the companies they will work at.

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Does the one-time fee include "future updates"? If it does, it's worth the pay I think.

I'm wondering the same thing as @bs-thomas, I've been burned before by licenses that are vague about what a "one-time" fee is. Will there ever be a major release or change in pricing model that will affect my license?

Anyone else wish access to the source was granted upon obtaining a license?

A project can be open source, but still paid (Unreal, Unity, et al). I would pay double if it meant we could contribute/change Fork for our use cases/preferences.

Anyone else wish access to the source was granted upon obtaining a license?

A project can be open source, but still paid (Unreal, Unity, et al). I would pay double if it meant we could contribute/change Fork for our use cases/preferences.

I have no need for this to be open sourced. Maybe a guarantee that they'll open source it if they ever stop maintaining it would be nice. And Unity isn't open source as far as I know.

Anyone else wish access to the source was granted upon obtaining a license?

A project can be open source, but still paid (Unreal, Unity, et al). I would pay double if it meant we could contribute/change Fork for our use cases/preferences.

It's a good idea, however, if it's made open source, the owner will have a hard time stopping bad guys from removing or bypassing the license check.

I'm wondering the same thing as @bs-thomas, I've been burned before by licenses that are vague about what a "one-time" fee is. Will there ever be a major release or change in pricing model that will affect my license?

I've been burnt multiple times on this. Hahaha I know their evil tricks now...

the owner will have a hard time stopping bad guys from removing or bypassing the license check.

I mean, that's not hard anyway? See any video game/software release. Especially seeing as the users are developers, developers who will have the skills to bypass such checks without source. Trying to do that is always a losing battle with nothing to be gained. On the other hand, think of all that could be gained by opening it up to contributions.

fork_registration

Been using the tool for quite some time now privately as well as professionally and it made working with git so much simpler and well structured. Now you can just find features yourself instead of having to listen to the ramblings of veteran git-users that wont stoop to your low level.

Happy to be able to support you guys! Keep it up!

Anyone else wish access to the source was granted upon obtaining a license?
A project can be open source, but still paid (Unreal, Unity, et al). I would pay double if it meant we could contribute/change Fork for our use cases/preferences.

It's a good idea, however, if it's made open source, the owner will have a hard time stopping bad guys from removing or bypassing the license check.

Like @AshleighAdams stated, its an uphill battle. Many companies ruin their product or the accessability to their product, by trying to make people pay that wont pay for their product in the first place and would just switch to a different product if they couldnt use it for free (legal or illegal) anymore.

So instead of putting much money and effort in cracking down on those few bad cases, you can use the popularity you get from those free users, to gain even more paying users.

Finally got the funding to buy licenses for the whole (small) team. Aldo a license is not required, I wanted to support great software as much as possible. Keep up the great work!

What is the legal basis of retroactively dragging your existing users onto the new license?

(I've bought my license, I'm just curious.)

I'm all for supporting developers but hesitant when the sales model changes. Similar to other sentiments expressed here, I have concerns for what the future holds. I don't think the once-off fee is sustainable if you quit your jobs to develop this full-time.

Honestly, I'm feeling a bit loathe to fork out the fee, especially if down the line the pricing model gets reworded. Have had too many other times in history where I supported the devs only to have them force push extra payments or subscriptions on me.

I'm all for supporting developers but hesitant when the sales model changes. Similar to other sentiments expressed here, I have concerns for what the future holds. I don't think the once-off fee is sustainable if you quit your jobs to develop this full-time.

Honestly, I'm feeling a bit loathe to fork out the fee, especially if down the line the pricing model gets reworded. Have had too many other times in history where I supported the devs only to have them force push extra payments or subscriptions on me.

understandably!

I personally would also prefer a different model, like patreon supports or so, which could generate a quite big regular income. So people can support the product with what they seem fit. And even 1-3€ donations would generate a sometimes bigger some than one time purchases.

But maybe fork is already such a wide-spread tool, that its actually quite worth.

But i guess some people would stop using fork with the license change. jwould be interesting to see a statistic on that.

Happy to support this fantastic software, bought my license today.

I was a long-time user of TortoiseHg. Last year I made the switch to git after BitBucket ended support for Mercurial, and I struggled to find a good git GUI client. Happened upon Fork, and have loved it ever since - all other git GUI clients felt like a step backwards from TortoiseHg, except for Fork.

Now I have a hard time using TortoiseHg because it feels like a step backwards from Fork. :)

Best of luck with the full-time dev on Fork Dan!

Are there any plans to offer on Mac App Store?

Sorry but my policy is whenever free software suddenly becomes not free, then I drop it immediately. I just uninstalled Fork. Simply put, I just don't agree with doing that to people for any reason.

That is entitlement.

The amount of time and headache this married couple from Czech saved me! I'm a software developer in California. I'm guessing you write software. We all write software. And all our time is valuable.

Well. Their time is valuable too. And their time saved mine! :-) They have my money. Gladly.

Perspective change: Don't be bitter about free projects asking for money to continue development. Be grateful for the years of productivity you got from it, free of charge.

What is the legal basis of retroactively dragging your existing users onto the new license?

You have no legal recourse. But see above. ^

Happy to support this fantastic software, bought my license today.

I was a long-time user of TortoiseHg. Last year I made the switch to git after BitBucket ended support for Mercurial, and I struggled to find a good git GUI client. Happened upon Fork, and have loved it ever since - all other git GUI clients felt like a step backwards from TortoiseHg, except for Fork.

Now I have a hard time using TortoiseHg because it feels like a step backwards from Fork. :)

Best of luck with the full-time dev on Fork Dan!

Dude that's my story exactly.

Sadly, I live in Brazil, so $50 dolars is equivalent to 260 BRL, and theres no way to pay for it.

I leave here a big "thank you" for the free services that you provided to me!
Its a suuuuuuper light git gui and its super powerful too 👍

@renanfferreira last time I've checked, it was about 130 BRL to sign up (I'm also from Brazil)....
I was only waiting for the response about the future updates asked by @bs-thomas to sign up... :(

@renanfferreira for exactly these kinds of cases (or people having enough money in general) it might make sense to have some kind of free tier for fork. Might also "help" with its popularity (it was free before, being not free might stunt that growth)

Keep it up!

I would like to thank whole family for the development, I appreciate possibility to use same software on working and home computer.
I've bought it and have no worries about that, although amount in my country is not small too.

I'm sorry for keeping Fork free for 4 years and making it paid after we both left our jobs to work on it full time.

This kind of attitude is exactly why I wrote what I wrote. I am glad to find out things like this. For my team, SourceTree is free, bug free, and working great!

Actually you wrote what you wrote because you failed to realize that time isn't free, and last I checked you couldn't walk into the store and pick something off the shelf and walk out without paying.

Software's intangibility does not make it worthless. In my experience, SourceTree isn't nearly as good (personal opinion of course).

Compensating people for their time and the things they make isn't unheard of like you make it seem - that's what jobs are.

@Aashishkebab
Especially if you want people to keep making what they currently make/create.

I'm all for supporting devs if the piece of software is really good which (which Fork definitly is).

But to enforce payments after years of the software being free is such a d*ck move in my eyes.

I would have happily "donated" (even if 50$ is too much in my eyes) but I just noticed the "option" to buy cause Fork told me I must buy a license for the ominous "long term use" (which is not declared anywhere).

The purchase now being mandatory and my only use for Fork is commit log and branch merging, makes 50$ way to expensive.
Sorry to see such a good software go is such a bad way :-(

Sorry @DanPristupov for the two month delay 😞, moving and then COVID happened so finances were tight. Worth every penny.
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I'm all for supporting devs if the piece of software is really good which (which Fork definitly is).

But to enforce payments after years of the software being free is such a d*ck move in my eyes.

I would have happily "donated" (even if 50$ is too much in my eyes) but I just noticed the "option" to buy cause Fork told me I must buy a license for the ominous "long term use" (which is not declared anywhere).

The purchase now being mandatory and my only use for Fork is commit log and branch merging, makes 50$ way to expensive.
Sorry to see such a good software go is such a bad way :-(

You know, you could just ask if this will ever be enforced and be happy if not and pay whenever you can? Once I get a job again I'll be getting a license to support the devs.

It sounds like they'll be doing the winrar model for now, and that seems to work just fine for winrar.

You know, you could just ask if this will ever be enforced and be happy if not and pay whenever you can? Once I get a job again I'll be getting a license to support the devs.

It sounds like they'll be doing the winrar model for now, and that seems to work just fine for winrar.

The websites states It is an evaluation thus being „enforced“. To change something like this mid way is just not my cup of tea. My use of fork is not big enough to pay 100$ (5stations). Asking for donations is one thing (which I do for every app I continuously use), Channing your complete plan to paid model results in me uninstalling the app.

winrar is also an evaluation.. Something I have been doing personally for I don't know, 20 years?

But hey, feel free to uninstall it... I always felt the change to a paid model would come at some day, I mean, everyone needs to eat right @tekook ?

I'm glad they decided to go with this optional model instead of FORCING you to pay. Do tell me what will be your new git client of choice, I'd love to hear that.

@geckosoft
For now I will just use the git clients provides by my IDEs (IntelliJ and Visual Studio (+Code)).
Merging (which was my main purpose for Fork) will be done in my gitlab via the web page.

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I would have preferred a donation option at the top instead, less management hassle and I'd probably have donated as I use the tool daily (when I found out about it in Jan this year).

1 user, up to 3 machines at a time

What does this mean? Open on 3 machines? Installed on 3 machines? Signed in on 3 machines?
I work on my work PC, my home desktop, or one of my two home laptops, at least once a week. What's the window to be considered active? How do I set one to not be active? Will it be similar to how Adobe does it where I can pick other devices to log out of?

Is there an option to have a corporate license, e.g. buy 10 licenses at once at $30 each and register it to a corporate domain's e-mail?

I'm all for supporting devs if the piece of software is really good which (which Fork definitly is).

But to enforce payments after years of the software being free is such a d*ck move in my eyes.

I would have happily "donated" (even if 50$ is too much in my eyes) but I just noticed the "option" to buy cause Fork told me I must buy a license for the ominous "long term use" (which is not declared anywhere).

The purchase now being mandatory and my only use for Fork is commit log and branch merging, makes 50$ way to expensive.
Sorry to see such a good software go is such a bad way :-(

Except it isn't a "d*ick move" and you aren't entitled to developers' time. $50 is way cheaper than any other client with the amount of power that Fork has (like Tower or GitKraken).

Uninstall it if you want. Good riddance. Companies like Google have spoiled us with free software, and so you expect everything to be free. But considering they dropped their jobs to work on this full time, it absolutely makes sense because, you know, They need to eat.9

I would have preferred a donation option at the top instead, less management hassle and I'd probably have donated as I use the tool daily (when I found out about it in Jan this year).

1 user, up to 3 machines at a time

What does this mean? Open on 3 machines? Installed on 3 machines? Signed in on 3 machines?
I work on my work PC, my home desktop, or one of my two home laptops, at least once a week. What's the window to be considered active? How do I set one to not be active? Will it be similar to how Adobe does it where I can pick other devices to log out of?

Is there an option to have a corporate license, e.g. buy 10 licenses at once at $30 each and register it to a corporate domain's e-mail?

Maybe contact them directly, I'm sure they'll be glad to reply to you in person :)

I would have preferred a donation option at the top instead, less management hassle and I'd probably have donated as I use the tool daily (when I found out about it in Jan this year).

1 user, up to 3 machines at a time

What does this mean? Open on 3 machines? Installed on 3 machines? Signed in on 3 machines?
I work on my work PC, my home desktop, or one of my two home laptops, at least once a week. What's the window to be considered active? How do I set one to not be active? Will it be similar to how Adobe does it where I can pick other devices to log out of?

Is there an option to have a corporate license, e.g. buy 10 licenses at once at $30 each and register it to a corporate domain's e-mail?

I can use the the software on my pc and mac at the same time, with the same key.

Thanks for creating such an excellent piece of software.

As someone who spent almost a decade in search for the perfect Git client it took me a whooping three days to "evaluate" Fork and decide it's worth paying for.

I am not denying that there are other free solutions out there that might do the job (almost) as equaly good but every single one of them has at least a couple of details that really bother me.

Fork felt like a home run right from the start. A beautiful dark theme, not just some weirdly looking abstract piece of art that made my eyes bleed after an hour, a highly responsive UI, a launcher (yes a keyboard-only workflow is possible with Fork, a small detail that is very important to me), support for LFS, git flow, tabbed interface etc.

I also understand that some people might be disappointed with the shift in licencing. However, those people apparently forgot that open source is about giving when you are able to give, not when others expect you to give. I've been a part of several huge open source projects, long enough to understand just how defeating it can be to rely on other people's charity to sustain the project and people working on it. In my mind paying for something that makes you money is worth the paid money.

Keep up the good work!

Thank you for providing this amazing software for free all these years!
I really hope you can turn it into a sustainable business, I will buy a license. Keep up the great work!

How is a machine defined? Is it based on the SMBIOS for example?
The reason I ask Is because I have two laptops and one pc of which all of them are multi boot, so that boils down to 6 operating systems on 3 machines.
I would like to know if I can use 1 license for those 3 machines or that I need 2 licenses for those 3 machines. I want to avoid deactivating and reactivating as a work around. And 2 licenses is to expensive for me.

This is the best GIT software I have ever used! Great job! Bought! <3

I wanted to chime in again that I historically used Atlassian's SourceTree, also developed in .NET like your Fork client, and found the experience to be embarrassingly bad for them. Breaking updates, client stalling / crashing on fresh development environments, and lacking features like a dark mode (supported now but missing for a very, very long time) just hindered the client's quality. I know developers who preferred command line to the GUI.

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The branch visualization / interaction in Fork is outstanding. Especially using topological sort.

Albeit free, I'm much happier after paying for Fork, and as someone mentioned above, this is proof that small teams can outperform, even viscously spank, the larger corporate competition at times.

@dunlavy +1 for "viscously spank"

Am I the only one, who gets shown a price of ~58$ while checkout?!

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@dkern Everybody in Germany, I suppose. If you buy for a company, you can not pay the VAT tax.

I'm not a company, I'm a person. 😉
Hmm, okay then. The price was even a bit high for private use, so I think that was a sign. 😉 Thank you for your fast reply.

I'm not a company, I'm a person. 😉
Hmm, okay then. The price was even a bit high for private use, so I think that was a sign. 😉 Thank you for your fast reply.

I guess the developers are big this days and dont care about persons :) I even get "US$59.99 (inc. VAT)" :)

By law in European Union to SELL something online you have to show the price including tax. I guess some lawyer have to sue them and then take all the money they take from developers 🤷🏻‍♂️, again selling software that was free before is just WRONG.

I'm not a company, I'm a person. 😉
Hmm, okay then. The price was even a bit high for private use, so I think that was a sign. 😉 Thank you for your fast reply.

I guess the developers are big this days and dont care about persons :) I even get "US$59.99 (inc. VAT)" :)

By law in European Union to SELL something online you have to show the price including tax. I guess some lawyer have to sue them and then take all the money they take from developers 🤷🏻‍♂️, again selling software that was free before is just WRONG.

I would like to see you working few hundred hours for free at work. Maybe then you would be mentally ready to get rid of this attitude.

This application works even if you don’t activate it, but anyway many people pay for it, just because it’s a great application and to support further improvements.

I'm not a company, I'm a person. 😉
Hmm, okay then. The price was even a bit high for private use, so I think that was a sign. 😉 Thank you for your fast reply.

I guess the developers are big this days and dont care about persons :) I even get "US$59.99 (inc. VAT)" :)

By law in European Union to SELL something online you have to show the price including tax. I guess some lawyer have to sue them and then take all the money they take from developers 🤷🏻‍♂️, again selling software that was free before is just WRONG.

Glad you are not doing anything with java then.. Ow wait... Also, what is your problem? Stuff still works without having to pay..

What is your endgoal here? Kill Fork? How do you make a living?

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@geckosoft I should mention that he cannot comment here anymore (Tanya asked me to do so).

@geckosoft I should mention that he cannot comment here anymore (Tanya asked me to do so).

That is fine, he was not bringing anything constructive to the table anyway...

Keep up the good work I'd say!

My only remark is: try to keep it 'free' for people who cannot pay for it (yet).

Wouldn't apply to me though: I recently got a license through my new job ^^

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Thank you.

try to keep it 'free' for people who cannot pay for it (yet).

Yes, we will.