Insert appropriate nome name in relevant files

Question

Insert appropriate nome name in relevant files

jcowey opened this issue 6 years ago · comments

James M.S. Cowey commented 6 years ago

The tag
<placeName type="ancient" subtype="nome">U</placeName>

must be replaced with the relevant one. All that we have is the above tag. This is a result of the data we received.

James M.S. Cowey commented 6 years ago

Splendid.

Elemmire · Answer 1 · Fri Oct 12 2018 15:47:25 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

There are 6438 files containing this kind of information.

Examples

Pathyris
https://github.com/DCLP/idp.data/blob/master/DCLP/1/555.xml#L46

Oxyrynchos
https://github.com/DCLP/idp.data/blob/master/DCLP/61/60066.xml#L46

Tentyris
https://github.com/DCLP/idp.data/blob/master/DCLP/99/98077.xml#L53

What should the placeholder »U« be replaced with?

James M.S. Cowey · Answer 2 · Fri Oct 12 2018 16:38:18 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Would you please generate a distinct list of those placeNames which are siblings of
<placeName type="ancient" subtype="nome">U</placeName> in a googlespreadsheet

James M.S. Cowey · Answer 3 · Fri Oct 12 2018 16:40:24 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I generated a distinct list of <placeName type="ancient" ref="[^<]+">[^<]+</placeName> at 311, but many of those were not accompanied by <placeName type="ancient" subtype="nome">U</placeName>

James M.S. Cowey · Answer 4 · Fri Oct 12 2018 17:37:06 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I would then fill in the relevant replacements for »U«
On the basis of such a list you would then be able to change and replace in appropriate fashion.

Elemmire · Answer 5 · Fri Oct 12 2018 22:15:03 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uNsT53My4l0JdcE8jogBsqVZyYHjWsWuIw5Dh5GoCI0/edit?usp=sharing

James M.S. Cowey · Answer 6 · Wed Dec 12 2018 17:52:38 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

https://github.com/DCLP/idp.data/blob/master/DCLP/1/555.xml#L46-L48
now looks like

   <placeName type="ancient" subtype="nome">U</placeName>
   <placeName type="ancient" subtype="region">Egypt</placeName>
   <placeName type="ancient" ref="http://www.trismegistos.org/place/1628">Pathyris</placeName>

should look be

   <placeName type="ancient" subtype="nome" ref="http://www.trismegistos.org/place/2849">Pathyrites</placeName>
   <placeName type="ancient" subtype="region">Egypt</placeName>
   <placeName type="ancient" ref="http://www.trismegistos.org/place/1628">Pathyris</placeName>

The same should of course be the case for
https://github.com/DCLP/idp.data/blob/master/DCLP/1/555.xml#L53-L55

https://github.com/DCLP/idp.data/blob/master/DCLP/1/555.xml#L41
now offers

<origPlace>Found: Pathyris (U, Egypt); written: Pathyris (U, Egypt)</origPlace>

It should be

<origPlace>Found: Pathyris (Pathyrites, Egypt); written: Pathyris (Pathyrites, Egypt)</origPlace>

James M.S. Cowey · Answer 7 · Wed Dec 12 2018 18:15:24 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

https://github.com/DCLP/idp.data/blob/master/DCLP/61/60066.xml#L46-L48
offers

<placeName type="ancient" subtype="nome">U</placeName>
<placeName type="ancient" subtype="region">Egypt</placeName>
<placeName type="ancient" ref="http://www.trismegistos.org/place/1524">Oxyrynchos</placeName>

It should be

<placeName type="ancient" subtype="nome" ref="http://www.trismegistos.org/place/2722">Oxyrhynchites</placeName>
<placeName type="ancient" subtype="region">Egypt</placeName>
<placeName type="ancient" ref="http://www.trismegistos.org/place/1524">Oxyrhynchos</placeName>

Please note "Oxyrynchos" => "Oxyrhynchos"

https://github.com/DCLP/idp.data/blob/master/DCLP/61/60066.xml#L41
offers

<origPlace>Found: Oxyrynchos (U, Egypt); written: Egypt</origPlace>

it should be

<origPlace>Found: Oxyrhynchos (Oxyrhynchites, Egypt); written: Egypt</origPlace>

James M.S. Cowey · Answer 8 · Wed Dec 12 2018 18:15:44 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Please leave the purple ones

Elemmire · Answer 9 · Wed Dec 12 2018 22:15:18 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Beispiele für verschiedene Schreib- und Fundorte

/DCLP/109/108739.xml

<history>
  <origin>
     <origPlace>Found: Apollonopolis (U, Egypt); written: Latopolis (U, Egypt)</origPlace>
     <origDate notBefore="0500" notAfter="0699">500 - 699</origDate>
  </origin>
  <provenance type="found">
     <p>
        <placeName type="ancient" subtype="nome">U</placeName>
        <placeName type="ancient" subtype="region">Egypt</placeName>
        <placeName type="ancient" ref="http://www.trismegistos.org/place/269">Apollonopolis</placeName>
     </p>
  </provenance>
  <provenance type="composed">
     <p>
        <placeName type="ancient" subtype="nome">U</placeName>
        <placeName type="ancient" subtype="region">Egypt</placeName>
        <placeName type="ancient" ref="http://www.trismegistos.org/place/1227">Latopolis</placeName>
     </p>
  </provenance>
</history>

Weitere Beispiele

Elemmire · Answer 10 · Wed Dec 12 2018 22:31:57 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Typen

Found|written
Fundort|Schreibort
Schreibort|Fundort

Mapping auf die Datenelemente

Schreibort / written > composed
Fundort / found > found

Mögliche Kombinationen

found|composed
composed|found

Elemmire · Answer 11 · Wed Dec 19 2018 21:46:25 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

DCLP/idp.data@346523e
DCLP/idp.data@1a64dda

Beispiele:

https://github.com/DCLP/idp.data/blob/master/DCLP/65/64487.xml
https://github.com/DCLP/idp.data/blob/master/DCLP/66/65099.xml
https://github.com/DCLP/idp.data/blob/master/DCLP/66/65067.xml
https://github.com/DCLP/idp.data/blob/master/DCLP/49/48854.xml

James M.S. Cowey · Answer 12 · Wed Dec 19 2018 22:12:18 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Looks excellet thank you.
Would you now please create another pass at the Sheet "X für ein U" in the spreadsheet DCLP Geo
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uNsT53My4l0JdcE8jogBsqVZyYHjWsWuIw5Dh5GoCI0/edit#gid=0

For the remaining cases of the use of "u" which you did not change because I was unsure of which nome was to be used.

Then I can go ahead and do the necessary work.
If you do a new read out it will probably simply corroborate the rows I have marked in purple, but it is probably worth doing a new read out.

James M.S. Cowey · Answer 13 · Wed Dec 19 2018 22:57:27 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Thank you. I see that you have now marked rows 16, 18-19 and 21-23 as one which correspond the the purple I had in the previous version.

Are the ones you are marking with HTTPS ones you did not catch previously. I had been surprised to see them, because I thought they would have been dealt with anyway.

So a second read out was indeed a very useful check.

James M.S. Cowey · Answer 14 · Wed Dec 19 2018 22:59:08 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Oh sorry, that was my fault. I had pasted a https URL and not cleaned it as I had done with the others

Elemmire · Answer 15 · Wed Dec 19 2018 23:00:20 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Ja, absolut! Gute Idee… Danke! Uff, ich bin gerade am sondieren, warum manche aufgenommen wurden, von denen man es nicht erwartet hätte, und warum andere offenbar nicht gematcht wurden.

Elemmire · Answer 16 · Wed Dec 19 2018 23:02:14 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Ja, das mit dem HTTP(S) ist wohl deswegen entstanden, weil die Daten in Spalte »place name« und »place ref« nur Beispiele waren. Das war etwas irreführend und mir später selbst nicht mehr bewusst.

Elemmire · Answer 17 · Wed Dec 19 2018 23:04:32 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Frage: Sollen die refs alle einheitlich auf entweder HTTP oder HTTPS lauten? Als Vorab-Clean-Up.

James M.S. Cowey · Answer 18 · Wed Dec 19 2018 23:10:21 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I think we should go for HTTPS. It is what the URL (e.g. www.trismegistos.org/place/1008) resolves to. And everything is moving towards HTTPS nowadays

James M.S. Cowey · Answer 19 · Wed Dec 19 2018 23:10:56 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

I feel sure it is not like that in papyri.info, but that would be easy to fix and is for another day.

Elemmire · Answer 20 · Thu Dec 20 2018 16:58:34 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

httpS

DCLP/idp.data@1535ee1
DCLP/idp.data@f115e30

X for U
DCLP/idp.data@b10bffe

X for U 2
DCLP/idp.data@5f288c9
DCLP/idp.data@f59ecf9
DCLP/idp.data@e9665c4

Nome
DCLP/idp.data@7b0f2da

Region
DCLP/idp.data@80e4def

X for U 3
DCLP/idp.data@88a60f7

Elemmire · Answer 21 · Wed Jan 16 2019 17:46:27 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Nach dem heutigen commit gibt es nun keine U-Orte mehr.

James M.S. Cowey · Answer 22 · Wed Jan 16 2019 20:08:37 GMT+0800 (China Standard Time)

Closing this as completed